I apologize for trying to bring the discussion back on topic. Who knew that Dino was an authority on women???

Good God, your right . I should have remembered the Bill Clinton days …… the liberals do pick the less attractive. Is it a mental confidence thing or something?

“her stake in the Wisconsin farm is worth up to $250,000. Her income from the farm has grown from $2,000 a year a few years back to as much as $50,000 for 2008.”

None dare call it Welfare

Biggest Farm group in N.Dak…..ND Farm Bureu came out and directly said—-Time to drop the Govt subsidies………I’d say most farmers in that group are on board

…Now…ND Farmers Union……….hmmmm….wonder what their stance is……wonder what their political affiliation is??????…….

Why do I take farm payments from the government? Well, Maybe because I don’t make the rules but I want to play in the game.
1. the only way to compete with the guy across the road is to be on a level playing field. To compete when we bid the cash rent on rented land, you must have the same incomes as the neighbor or he can out bid you using the income from the government to give him an advantage. remember, he is using tax dollars, yours & mine included to support him a higher rent to the land owner. If no one got the support, it would stay a level field

2. The main reason for the payments is to gain control over the farmer. There are many things I have to do to get those payments. I have to farm the way they say, raise the crops they allow, give them trade secrets (acre reports of each crop and its yeild) that they give to the grain buyers so they know how much wheat is out here before they bid up the price.

3. the government wants to make sure that we always have food at a cheap price in this country. This is their reason for doing it, and why the european countrys pay even larger supports. (they have gone hungry there and vow to never let that happen again.)

4. the payments are a damn poor settlement for the damage done to my market by the federal government. A little over a month ago president dumba$$ put a 30% teriff on tires from china. China is the number one importer of soybeans from this country. thanks for poking a stick in their eye. they went to south america for one of their last large buys. To protect his labor union buddys making tires he screwed up my market. I should have the right in this country to sell my beans to who ever i want, we used to be a free country.

I could go on but what for, those from the left don’t want to know the facts anyway.

Just for the record, Dino, you put nothing in the trough. How the hell do you figure you and 10 others have anything coming from something you never put into in the first place.

By the way, you liberals are at the trough all the time. I have my property TAKEN from me for your road. only federal & state highways buy the land for the road. all country roads are easements, the roadway is taken but not bought. I own the land to the center of the road but the easement says 33′ on each side of the section line can be used for public transportation.
You live in town and flush your toilet? 85% of your sewer system is funded by the EPA ….. MY taxes help pay for your toilet but I pay 100% of my own. How about your schools, here in ND my land taxes pay for the schools in all of the smaller districts. only the major cities fund their own.
you ever go hunting? on whos land? whos crops feed most of the wildlife out here. In small town ND who pays the taxes for the fire trucks ….. farm land owners again.

The main point i wanted to make is this, WE ARE ALL AT THE TROUGH, even those who will not admit it.

but back to the thread …….. she is related to someone who got a government payment big deal, Barak socialist Obama is related to a man who abandond his own children, ran around fathering kids all over the place. How is that baraks fault?

get someone to help you read what I wrote. Have them explain it to you. I did not say that they are good, I don’t want them, I want a level playing field. NO ONE GETS THEM. not farmers or city dwellers either. pay for your own services. If you chose a risky life style …. pay for it …
yourself. do not expect it to be free or that others should have to pay for it. If you smoke you shold pay more for your health coverage. if your fat ….. lazy … or engage in a life style that is risky …… pay your own way ….. don’t be a bottem feeding free loader

btw ……. I went through this once before but will do it again, how a ‘Loan Deficiency Payment’ works
the government says ……. canola is worth $.09 per pound
I take a load of canola to ‘ADM’ to sell it.
ADM says they will pay me $.05 per pound.
I say, ‘you can’t do that, the government said it was worth $.09 per pound’.
ADM says not to worry, they will give me $.05 and the government ‘LDP’ will pay me the other $.04

I got the $.09 per pound that the canola was worth. ADM got to buy the canola for $.05 per pound
WHO REALLY GOT THE ‘LDP’ .. EWG list my name as getting it but all i got was the $.09
ADM WAS ALLOWED TO BUY $.09 canola for $.05 …. would look like they were the ones who got the subsidy and, let us not forget, you the consumer were able to buy canola cooking oil in the store for less

My, we are getting snippy and downright waspish in our later years, aren’t we!?

Not only are those women you so crassly refer to better educated, and better paid, they’ve no doubt got better looking men to choose from too.

There is plenty to ridicule Michelle Bachman for. You shouldn’t have to look.

Lioncourt,

Are you, a devout liberal, suggesting a discussion of issues and policy positions, and not parentage, appearance or IQ scores?

What is this world coming to?!

There is plenty to ridicule Michelle Bachman for. You shouldn’t have to look.

This is ridiculous.

Go back and find out how many have accepted the subsidies for 09, empty hollow announcement. Why because they like their pork. Perhaps farm4money could enlighten us. Weren’t subsidies meant to level the playing fields because of international trade and most of their farmers are subsidized. Good luck on getting other countries to change their rules.

I hear bullsh@t. Take the pork and run. It is always optional. Lets start making excuses for conservative farmer. Talk the talk but can’t walk the walk. Sanctimonious hypocrites. At least Rob has the guts to call it what it really is.

They’ve had lots of advantages due to their looks and the hole they sport. That gives them a distorted view of the world and can diminish their capacity for empathy.

We’ve all met the spoiled, cuntish, “ladies who lunch”, the ones married to rich men who haven’t a clue what life is like for real people, who think planning a lavish birthday party for little Emily is the height of personal achievment.

These conservative FOX drones are those women with a degree in communications.

that isn’t even a good thought. Those hips in lycra. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Yeah guys, cause I’m certain she was the decision maker for her Father-In-Laws farm…lol (Amaters)

Yeah, we know, deadbeat. I’ve heard it all before.

“I just HATE taking this unemployment but I paid for it over the years!” (They didn’t)

“People should take care of themselves! Now, help me hide grandma’s money so we can put her in a nursing home on Medicaid after we make her look poor.” (That’s a favorite of conservatives everywhere. They know how to f*ck the system.)

“Everybody should take care of themselves! Oh honey, little Billy’s rare disease is costing us a fortune. Let’s run to the government and ask for help!” (A very common conservative story. Look at Palin, tirelessly working for more aid to the mentally disabled like her little Trig! If she didn’t have him she wouldn’t give a flying F*CK about the mentally disabled.)

I have acquaintances, relatives, the friends of relatives and too many people to count that do the same thing you’re doing. Bitch about being “forced” to be part of a mutually supportive society while you take every goddamn penny you can collect from the government.

Just admit that you haven’t the intellect to be part of a civilized society unless you’re forced.

It is welfare, and it should end.

But like most government programs, it’s hard to avoid them.

It will keep her in the spotlight, “right” where she belongs! She is a great voice for conservatives. Another heel in the nads of the left.

It’s just like I always say: conservatives are the first at the trough, elbowing others out of the way, taking their share and that of 10 others.

That’s the real reason they’re so find of denying others the goodies. They want more for themselves.

This will not go well for that evil woman in the next election.

This is like when the homosexual activist try to discredit Ryan Sorba by bringing up a mistake he made 10 years ago as a 19 year old teenager. He had a restraining order but on him by a mother of another boy Ryan was constantly getting into fights with. Nobody knows the whole story other than that, but the libs and the homosexual activists will twist it out of context and use it so they can shy away from the truth Ryan Sorba lays out about the history of farce and fraud homosexuality was founded upon and based on. Libs will deny facts as opinion or fiction if it doesn't make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Most Conservatives weren't spoiled as a children as much as libs, so they can handle the sting of truth and moved forward. Liberalism is based on an infantile sense of entitlement, it is truly a mental disorder.