Sarah Palin Is Still Right About Those Death Boards

The proponents of government-run health care keep saying over and over again that they’ll control costs. Well the only way for them to control costs is to control access to care. That means bureaucrats making decisions about your health care.
Decisions that can sometimes mean the difference between life and death.

Martin Feldstein, former chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Ronald Reagan, wrote in the Wall Street Journal that, “ObamaCare is all about rationing.”
He says, “The White House Council of Economic Advisers issued a report in June explaining the Obama administration’s goal of reducing projected health spending by 30% over the next two decades. That reduction would be achieved by eliminating “high cost, low-value treatments,” by “implementing a set of performance measures that all providers would adopt,” and by “directly targeting individual providers . . . (and other) high-end outliers.” In other words, using a British-style NICE board to determine what services are cost effective, and disallow those that are not.
Now, you can be for this or against this, but it is disingenuous to argue that Palin was completely wrong in warning about this cost-based rationing. What kind of democratic process is it that asks the American people to accept this approach, while pretending this is not what the administration is trying to do?

So why can’t the liberals just be honest about this aspect of their push for government health care? Maybe it’s because this is exactly what Americans don’t want.
In order to sell their ideas for health care, liberals must convince Americans that they’ll get the same care they’re getting now only someone else is going to pay for it. Unfortunately, neither is true. Our care will get worse as the government rations access to care to control costs, and we’ll all pay more in taxes for government health care than we’re paying out of our own pockets for health care now.

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  • djer

    No,she's not! She is a liar. And for you Rob to perpetuate the lie is shameful! Stop lying!

  • sayanything-6955

    Now, you can be for this or against this, but it is disingenuous to argue that Palin was completely wrong in warning about this cost-based rationing.

    Call it what you want, But some bureaucrat panel is going to decide who gets what and when.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Oh gop, once proud and mighty gop, please please please nominate the 1/2 term ex Governor of Alaska as your 2012 Presidential candidate.

  • Geoguy

    If she's not correct, why did they take those provisions out of the bill when she publioized them?

    Ask the jugeared cretin presently on vacation for that answer.

  • Jack

    Rob:

    Well the only way for them to control costs is to control access to care.

    Completely untrue.

    That means bureaucrats making decisions about your health care.

    That's exactly what we have now!

    Direct question:

    Do you truly believe that President Obama's insurance reform is actually a trojan horse designed to kill seniors?

  • WOOFX

    Sarah Palin

    not completely wrong

    Ain't That Peculiar

  • Jack

    Geo:

    If she's not correct…

    She's not.

    …why did they take those provisions out of the bill when she publioized them?

    Because Democrats are pussies.

    They are better than the Republicans because the GOP consists almost exclusively of birthers, conpiracy nuts, and obama = hitler loonies.

  • atease

    Do you truly believe that President Obama's insurance reform is actually a trojan horse designed to kill seniors?

    You have fallen for the magician's trick. Barry has not read or helped write any of the competing legislation..

    Direct question to you..

    What is Obama's insurance (why did you drop the phrase HEALTH CARE) reform?

    atease

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Government health care is rationed care. Rationed care means that some people won't get treated.

    What's hard to understand about that. Obamacare will result in care being denied in one form or another.

    No thanks, I'll buy the health care I want and you can do the same.

  • Jack

    atease:

    What is Obama's insurance (why did you drop the phrase HEALTH CARE)…

    Because while "health care" isn't wrong, "insurance reform" is a more accurate description. Plus Democrats are pussies.

    …reform?

    It's easy to find. Here, I'll help you.

    Author of OPERATION CLEAN SWEP

    You misspelled the name of your own book, genius.

  • lge

    Well, maybe they wouldn't be, strictly speaking, "death panels." Maybe they would just be "Can you get care, and if so, what care?" panels.

    Here's an inspiring story for you:

    ==============================
    ( http://freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/9082… )
    Canadians visit U.S. to get health care. . .
    Dany Mercado, a leukemia patient from Kitchener, Ontario, is cancer-free after getting a bone marrow transplant at the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute in Detroit. Told by Canadian doctors in 2007 he couldn't have the procedure there, Mercado's family and doctor appealed to Ontario health officials, who agreed to let him have the transplant in Detroit in January 2008.
    =======================

    They "AGREED TO LET HIM HAVE THE TRANSPLANT"! Wasn't that magnanimous of them!? Under a government monopoly of medical care you're like Oliver Twist going up with his little begging bowl: "Please, sir, may I save my life?"

    But it's a small price to pay in order to 1) bash the capitalist-pig insurance companies; 2) keep those fat-cat rich people from getting better care than poor people; and 3) stop those greedy doctors from squeezing profits off the suffering of the proletariat. Such are the real goals of the "compassionate" ObamaCare moonies.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Maybe they would just be "Can you get care, and if so, what care?" panels.

    They're deciding I can't get a certain kind of care might mean death to me.

    Why should they get to make those decisions?

  • J.L.

    "They`re better than Democrats because the Dems consist almost exclusively of 9-11 truthers, conspiracy nuts and Bush= Hitler loonies." See, Jack i can debate like an eighth grader, too.

  • J.L.

    "Please, please nominate the ex governor of Alaska as your 2012 Presidential candidate." Please, please keep trying to push for government controlled health insurance, and it won`t matter who we nominate.

  • atease

    Jack,

    Thanks for the correction on the sig. Operation Clean Sweep is not a book, it is a movement to replace 100% of congress.

    Insurance reform is NOT a more accurate description. If that were the case, why would we just not allow portability and cross state competition..? They are trying to take over the HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY, not insurance.

    atease

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    So why can't the liberals just be honest about this aspect of their push for government health care? Maybe it's because this is exactly what Americans don't want.

    Because the Left LIES…. it's what they do.

    It's what they have alway done.

    Because, in the beginning of their assault on the West, they were known as the crackpots and bomb-throwing anarchists that they really are. They came right out and said they were Communists, or the People's Worker's Party, or along the similar lines.

    They were rejected outright and condemned to the fringes and the run-down back-alleys.

    Only by LYING, only by wrapping themselves in the flag, camouflaging themselves in the guise of just another American political party have they made any progress whatsoever.

    They have lied at every step of the game — taking over control of children and seizing what had always been local control of the school system under the guise of Racism and thus Forced Busing, while the real target was the curriculum (if you can shape young minds, in the space of a generation or two, you can control the ballot box)

    Under the guise of Domestic Violence, they took control over the children, which can happen at the drop of a hat, even in instances where the so-called abuse is unfounded.

    You can see this pattern unfolding again in the banking and auto industries and now the health care industry.

    "We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can't see this is probably hoping it isn't true. If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries, if we permit him to raise our taxes to support unconstitutional causes, then we will be in default. This great America will become a paralyzed nation."

    Be outraged, Mr. Voight advises.

    "Do not let the Obama administration fool you with all their cunning Alinsky methods. And if you don't know what that method is, I implore you to get the book 'Rules for Radicals,' by Saul Alinsky. Mr. Obama is very well trained in these methods," he continues, citing a television campaign critical of the Republican Party and contentious town-hall meetings about health care reform.

    "The real truth is that the Obama administration is professional at bullying, as we have witnessed with ACORN at work during the presidential campaign. It seems to me they are sending down their bullies to create fist fights among average American citizens who don't want a government-run health care plan forced upon them," Mr. Voight says. "So I ask again. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?"

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    So why can't the liberals just be honest about this aspect of their push for government health care? Maybe it's because this is exactly what Americans don't want.

    Because the Left LIES…. it's what they do.

    It's what they have alway done.

    Because, in the beginning of their assault on the West, they were known as the crackpots and bomb-throwing anarchists that they really are. They came right out and said they were Communists, or the People's Worker's Party, or along the similar lines.

    They were rejected outright and condemned to the fringes and the run-down back-alleys.

    Only by LYING, only by wrapping themselves in the flag, camouflaging themselves in the guise of just another American political party have they made any progress whatsoever.

    They have lied at every step of the game — taking over control of children and seizing what had always been local control of the school system under the guise of Racism and thus Forced Busing, while the real target was the curriculum (if you can shape young minds, in the space of a generation or two, you can control the ballot box)

    Under the guise of Domestic Violence, they took control over the children, which can happen at the drop of a hat, even in instances where the so-called abuse is unfounded.

    You can see this pattern unfolding again in the banking and auto industries and now the health care industry.

    "We are witnessing a slow, steady takeover of our true freedoms. We are becoming a socialist nation, and whoever can't see this is probably hoping it isn't true. If we permit Mr. Obama to take over all our industries, if we permit him to raise our taxes to support unconstitutional causes, then we will be in default. This great America will become a paralyzed nation."

    Be outraged, Mr. Voight advises.

    "Do not let the Obama administration fool you with all their cunning Alinsky methods. And if you don't know what that method is, I implore you to get the book 'Rules for Radicals,' by Saul Alinsky. Mr. Obama is very well trained in these methods," he continues, citing a television campaign critical of the Republican Party and contentious town-hall meetings about health care reform.

    "The real truth is that the Obama administration is professional at bullying, as we have witnessed with ACORN at work during the presidential campaign. It seems to me they are sending down their bullies to create fist fights among average American citizens who don't want a government-run health care plan forced upon them," Mr. Voight says. "So I ask again. Is President Obama creating a civil war in our own country?"

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Jack is a six year old who just screams "WRONG, WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!" over and over until his parents give in and tell him what a bright little boy he is.

    He never offers arguments and is too stupid to provide proof.

    He's either Dino's retarded son, or retarded little brother.

  • TheTodd

    Rob Port:

    The proponents of government-run health care keep saying over and over again that they'll control costs. Well the only way for them to control costs is to control access to care.

    You don't actually believe this is true, do you?

    ( Int. A disgustingly fat man named POB RORT sits at home, smoking a cigar, taking a brief respite from a marathon fingerpainting session. As he sits at his desk, the camera zooms to the placard "Pob Rort, CEO of Fatburger Industries. Suddenly, "No Strings Attached" by the boy band N*Sync starts playing. POB RORT picks up his cellphone)

    POB: Who is it?

    Todd: Hey Pod, it's the stunningly handsome and wildly intelligent Todd, manager of the Des Moines Fatburger. We have a serious problem here: We're losing money!

    POB: What? (belches, farts, scratches himself) How can we be losing money??? We need to find a way to stop it!!!

    Todd: It's our expenses, Pob. They're way too high! We spend over twice as much as the San Francisco location, but we bring in the same amount of business. I have looked at the problem, and I've located several areas where we can cut down on costs.

    POB: Wait… (farts)… did you just say "cut down on costs"?

    Todd: Yes! You see, we're spending $5,000 each month on shipping, but if we switched to a local company we could cut that to….

    POB: Hey, there, Einstein, easy on the numbers. Remember, I'm a retard!

    Todd: Ah, of course.

    POB: However, my daddy taught me one thing about business, and I made sure to remember. His edict was: "The only way to control costs is to control access to product."

    Todd: That may be the absolute dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. The San Francisco location sells the exact same amount of product as we do, but with lower costs. It's a systemic problem! We just need to copy their business model and we'll be okay!!!

    POB: (Belches). I'm afraid not. The only way to cut costs at your location is… sell fewer hamburgers. If a 70-year-old man wants to buy 2 hamburgers, have a panel decide to only sell him 1. We'll order fewer products, and cut down on costs!!!

    Todd: …And that's the easiest way you see to cut down on costs? You'd prefer that over the ten thousand other ways we could reduce expenses and improve efficiency.

    POB: Yes, I would. Because I'm retarded.

    ** End Scene

    - – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Here are a two simple facts:

    England spends less than $3,000 per person for health care.
    The US spends more than $7,000 per person.

    A study (http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=249452) by Price Waterhouse Coopers showed that HALF of the money we spend on health-care is just flat-out wasted… $200 billion a year to file insurance paperwork, ordering of unnecessary tests, overmedication, etc.

    One might conclude that an additional way to reduce health care costs would be to eliminate all this wildly unnecessary spending.

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