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Tuesday, September 02, 2008

Sarah Palin And The Alaska Independence Party

News about Sarah Palin’s involvement in the Alaska Independence Party has broken, and as you might expect the anti-Republican hordes are now trying to use it to paint her as some sort of a fringe lunatic.

The question is: Is the Alaska Independence Party a fringe, kook organization?  Not really.  While I don’t think most Alaskans support secession from the United States, they’re actually a pretty mainstream group in the Last Frontier.  In fact, while secession remains the groups #1 issue, during its over-three-decades history that goal has morphed into other goals as well.  Such as making Alaska less dependent on federal funding, for instance, and supporting state’s rights.

Which is something Palin, given her opposition to federal earmarks, supports.

The AIP has become a somewhat important group for conservatives in Alaska, and it’s not surprising that an up-and-coming conservative politician in the state would seek them out.  Most Americans won’t understand the secessionist movement that the AIP is founded upon (indeed, I don’t understand it either) but to say that the group stands only for that and serves no other purpose in Alaska is just plain dishonest.

Not that such dishonesty will stop the media/left (same thing) from perpetrating that view.

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Not that such dishonesty will stop the media/left (same thing) from perpetrating that view.

Or reality based boob for that matter.  Dishonesty is his middle name.

Carrick on September 2, 2008 at 09:17 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that prior membership in a political organization such as this will preclude Palin from being granted the security clearance necessary for being VEEP.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on September 2, 2008 at 09:25 am

I had to write off any chance of a career in Federal government before I donated to my homestate’s secessionist party. Also, since Rob doesn’t understand some of the motivations behind supporting a group such as this, here’s a pretty good defense of a similar position. Also see here.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on September 2, 2008 at 09:31 am

Also, in states like Alaska and Vermont, groups like this cannot be labeled fringe. That epithet is merely an artifact of urban-dwelling Federal-boosting sheeple.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on September 2, 2008 at 09:34 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that prior membership in a political organization such as this will preclude Palin from being granted the security clearance necessary for being VEEP.

If that was the case BHO would have trouble because his associations with William Ayers and Wrong Reverend Wright and some of the other hate american fringe people in his back ground. Not to mention his drug use would be a problem as well.


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goon on September 2, 2008 at 09:41 am
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Check out “The Corner” on NRO--Jonah Goldberg has a post. She was never a member but addressed the convention..

Kay on September 2, 2008 at 10:16 am
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..to say that the group stands only for that and serves no other purpose in Alaska is just plain dishonest.

And you’re the expert on dishonesty!

You’re just making stuff up again. The article you cite does not say that the group stands only for secession or that it “serves no other purpose”.  In fact, the article quotes generously from the AIP chairman and the party platform.

jimmy on September 2, 2008 at 11:15 am

In fact, while secession remains the groups #1

they’re actually a pretty mainstream group in the Last Frontier.

Why do they hate America?


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on September 2, 2008 at 11:58 am

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That’s disingenuous. Clearly they love America, just not what the centrists have been doing with it. America was premised on states rights, read the 10th Amendment sometime. Its the widespread abuse of the 10th amendment and federal blackmail on regulatory and moral issues that leads these secessionist movements to pop up and gain support. Also, despite the lies to the contrary, she was a member for 2 years in the 90s.

Also, I think prior political affiliations like this impede ones ability to gain security clearance. In appointed positions, at least.

I think this is great. It provides some publicity for these movements which are sorely in need of it. It also adds legitimacy, if the GOP is backing a former secessionist group member.

I know RebTex is sympathetic. View his avatar and handle.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on September 2, 2008 at 12:05 pm

Why do they hate America?

Quick question, can you even find America on a map?
(hint: it’s not in the Southern Hemisphere)

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harry says he’ll be happy to point it out for you.


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Onslaught on September 2, 2008 at 12:27 pm
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On Polling:

Why the hell does everyone on FoxNews (guys like Rove included) respond to every single poll like it is the word of God?

CNN comes out showing no bounce for Obama.  Gallup counters with a big bounce for Obama.  So first we are rejoicing then the next day we are freaking out.

News flash - pretty much every single polling agency, including Rasmussen is run by liberals.  They use samples that wildly over-estimate the portion of democrats in the sample.

Even Rasmussen admitted that Republicans had narrowed the gap in registration to 5% but then turns right around and says he will continue to give dems an 8 point cushion in sampling.

THERE SHOULD BE A LAW!
There should be a new law that polling agencies MUST report the sampling %’s used when reporting a poll.

Bill Mitchell on September 2, 2008 at 12:58 pm
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The issue is irrelevant..
Just like the Daughter issue..
People like her. And will vote for her.
Her active political life just shows she likes to get things done. And likes to push.
I like it.

Jerry on September 2, 2008 at 04:07 pm

Just look at the face on Palin’s daughter, ill bet that was a nice tight ride. I wonder if she swallows?


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Buzz on September 2, 2008 at 04:48 pm

Now “Buzz” is having lesbian fantasies about an underage girl.
Typical degenerate homo leftie.


Save America; boycott the MSM.

robert108 on September 2, 2008 at 04:52 pm
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Hey “Buzz"…

You always this “Buzzed”?..

Is this what Union people are like these days?..
Crude JackAsses?..

Jerry on September 2, 2008 at 05:00 pm

BTW, Sparkie, that wasn’t “the premise”; that was supporting evidence.  The fact is, you have no evidence that she was ever a member of that group.  The burden of proof is on you.


Save America; boycott the MSM.

robert108 on September 2, 2008 at 05:12 pm

Security schmecurity- a President or his VP doesn’t need a security clearance.

Good Ol Boy on September 2, 2008 at 06:54 pm

THERE SHOULD BE A LAW!
There should be a new law that polling agencies MUST report the sampling %’s used when reporting a poll.

You mean like a fairness doctrine or something??

Heh!


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Hannitized on September 2, 2008 at 08:42 pm
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Rob,

Can’t you block this flippin’ idiot who calls himself “Buzz”?  He is crossing the line.  I know you encourge people to express themselves but he(or she)is becoming extremely offensive. 

He (or she) is a stupid, pathetic, imbicile that is getting his (or her) kicks by making crude, immature comments.  Don’t give him (or her) the satisfction and get him (or her) off of here! Buzz, you’re an IDIOT! And a sick and twisted mental case!

NDGAL on September 2, 2008 at 08:45 pm

You mean like a fairness doctrine or something??

No, moron!  Like full disclosure, or honesty, or something.
I know those are foreign concepts to you.


Save America; boycott the MSM.

robert108 on September 2, 2008 at 08:49 pm
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Can’t you block this flippin’ idiot who calls himself “Buzz”?  He is crossing the line.

NDGAL: Buzz crosses the line quite a lot, adds little to or distracts from any conversation he joins, and typifies the KoolAid™ drinking liberal Left.

He is the face of liberalism unmasked. The fact that he is a vile and uncouth, foul-mouthed sexist pig should only strengthen our resolve to oppose any politician who puts forth policies that Buzz and his ilk are fond of!



Barack Obama: All hat and no cattle since 1997!


Proof on September 2, 2008 at 08:59 pm

Like full disclosure, or honesty, or something.
I know those are foreign concepts to you.

So you DO mean like the fairness doctrine!!  Thank you.


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Hannitized on September 2, 2008 at 09:00 pm

I know RebTex is sympathetic. View his avatar and handle.

Sparkie?!
I want to succeed not seceed!

Why you be gettin’ all whack?


Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?

RebTex on September 2, 2008 at 09:04 pm

So you DO mean like the fairness doctrine!!

No, moron!  The so-called “Fairness Doctrine” is censorship of conservative talk radio.  Don’t you know anything, boy?


Save America; boycott the MSM.

robert108 on September 2, 2008 at 09:06 pm

RebelTexan

Why you be gettin’ all whack?

They speak that way out in Armadilla?

Where do you hail from?

Sir Texas Sir.

Texas? Ain’t nothin’ but steers and queers from Texas.


Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

Sparkie Arbuckle on September 2, 2008 at 09:14 pm

There are all kinds out here, Sparkie!


Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?

RebTex on September 2, 2008 at 09:23 pm
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Snorting coke and getting a DWI don’t seem to have impeded Bush’s ability to get a security clearance.

If Palin’s such an opponent of earmarks, why did she secure about $20 million for Wasilla as mayor? And then she supported the Bridge to Nowhere as governor, until it began running over budget, when she turned against it and diverted the federal money elsewhere.  To say nothing of 100 grand of state money for her personal attorneys.

Fine record as a reformer she has. She’s as big a hypocrite as any Republican.

Mike on September 3, 2008 at 03:07 pm
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why would anybody want someone leading a government they do not support. how can you support and want to leave at the same time. if alaska leaves the union where do we go of we want to shoot wolves from an airplane

rex leonard on September 5, 2008 at 05:36 am
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NEWS FLASH EVERYONE: It is being reported as “FACT” that as recently as July 2008 Sarah Palin spoke at an Alaska Independence Party Convention and said “Keep up the good work!” Which means she endorses Alaska seceeding from the United States of America. McCain/Palin and the entire Republican Party have lied for years to the American People, what makes you think they won’t continue to lie to keep their power? If McCain/Palin do win in November, God help America—the AIP will declare war against us for sure, and the U.S. will enter into another Civil War. ALSO FACT: The Civil War wasn’t just about abolishing slavery but also about preventing those states who supported slavery from seceeding from our Nation (the United States of America).

rckayla on October 14, 2008 at 01:09 pm

If McCain/Palin do win in November, God help America—the AIP will declare war against us for sure, and the U.S. will enter into another Civil War.

Kook alert.

likwidshoe on October 14, 2008 at 01:43 pm
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