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Tuesday, August 21, 2007

Rudy Giuliani’s Big Drawback: He’s Not A Federalist, And He Doesn’t Respect Gun Rights

Fred Thompson admittedly isn’t the most objective source for this, but I think he makes the case for some problems with Giuliani’s approach to gun laws pretty well:

When I was working in television, I spent quite a bit of time in New York City. There are lots of things about the place I like, but New York gun laws don’t fall in that category.

Anybody who knows me knows I’ve always cared deeply about the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. So I’ve always felt sort of relieved when I flew back home to where that particular civil liberty gets as much respect as the rest of the Bill of Rights.

Unfortunately, New York is trying, again, to force its ways on the rest of us, this time through the courts. First, they went after U.S. gun manufacturers, seeking through a lawsuit not only money but injunctive control over the entire industry. An act of congress in 2005 blocked, but did not end, that effort.

Now, the same activist federal judge from Brooklyn who provided Mayor Giuliani’s administration with the legal ruling it sought to sue gun makers, has done it again. Last week, he created a bizarre justification to allow New York City to sue out-of-state gun stores that sold guns that somehow ended up in criminal hands in the Big Apple.

I posted about Bloomberg’s attempts to sue out-of-state gun makers for gun crimes committed in New York some time ago.  It was ridiculous then, and it was ridiculous when it was happening under Giuliani.

The Giuliani campaign sent along this response to Thompson’s post from Communications Director Katie Levinson:

Those who live in New York in the real world - not on TV - know that Rudy Giuliani’s record of making the city safe for families speaks for itself.  No amount of political theater will change that.

Frankly, I find that a little insulting.  The idea of holding the people who actually use guns in crimes responsible for those crimes instead of the people who made the guns is just plain common sense.  I don’t know what “real world” Giuliani and his campaign are living in, but here in America we believe in personal responsibility, not finger pointing.  We also believe in the Constitution, which provides constitutional protection for owning and selling guns.

No amount of liberal judicial activism is going to change that.

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The Virginia Tech masacre last April should have been a wake up call for anyone against gun rights. The idea of security not being armed is bad! We really have to elect people who understand and respect gun rights. It is a sad fact of life. BUT protecting ourselves against crazy freaks is a reality of life…

Zsa Zsa on August 21, 2007 at 03:23 pm

Rob, are you hedging your bets on Giulani if Thompson doesn’t get into the race?

Puzzlefeet on August 21, 2007 at 03:33 pm
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Thompson will be in the race on or about September 5th.

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If he doesn’t get the nomination, I don’t know what I’m going to do.  I could vote for Giuliani, but I’m hesitant.  He’d be better than any of the Democrat candidates, but I’m a little tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.  He’d be another Bush, I think, from the conservative perspective.  Great on some things, terrible on others.

And evil incarnate to the liberals, naturally.

So if not Thompson, label me “undecided” for the time being on Giuliani.  If neither of those guys make it, I’ll probably not vote at all.  Certainly Romney doesn’t have anything I want, and Huckabee is Dick Gephart with an “R” behind his name.


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Rob on August 21, 2007 at 03:38 pm
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Logic would have it that if NYC can sue out-of-state gun manufacturers for crimes committed with a gun in NYC--then this follows: any New Yorker who commits a gun crime in the other 49 will allow them to sue the State of New York?  After all, guns do not commit crimes--people do.

halatbis on August 21, 2007 at 04:12 pm

Thanks Rob, I too am undecided from my end. Too early anyway lots of time yet.

Puzzlefeet on August 21, 2007 at 04:14 pm

If he doesn’t get the nomination, I don’t know what I’m going to do.  I could vote for Giuliani, but I’m hesitant.  He’d be better than any of the Democrat candidates, but I’m a little tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.  He’d be another Bush, I think, from the conservative perspective.  Great on some things, terrible on others.

And evil incarnate to the liberals, naturally.

Rob I will not vote for Hillary under any circumtances, I can’t imagine you would either. I guess I am going to hold my nose and pull the lever for the Rino Rudy. I think the NRA will be out in full force and the thought of losing guns

ANY Legal GUNS

to the defeatocrats is enough to get out the vote. I think the NRA will also warn Rudy hands of our guns…


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goon on August 21, 2007 at 06:06 pm

Rob - ...I’ll probably not vote at all.

You should never say this and worse, never do it. You’re better than that. Candidate choices will always be the lesser of two evils, but that’s kind of a glass is half empty way of looking at it. This is no perfect politician.

likwidshoe on August 21, 2007 at 06:50 pm
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Well there goes the Giuliani/Thompson ticket.

Joe R. on August 21, 2007 at 09:26 pm

Frankly, I find that a little insulting.  The idea of holding the people who actually use guns in crimes responsible for those crimes instead of the people who made the guns is just plain common sense.  I don’t know what “real world” Giuliani and his campaign are living in, but here in America we believe in personal responsibility, not finger pointing.  We also believe in the Constitution, which provides constitutional protection for owning and selling guns.

This is the reason I don’t want to have to vote for anyone but a true conservative. I was in a debate with some of the people of this its our party too. Apparently they didn’t like it when I told them they were a bunch of liberals and that they were better off voting with the Democrats. Being a republican stands for something, there are core believe. I believe pro-life, pro gun are two very important issues…


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goon on August 22, 2007 at 02:43 pm

Isn’t this a New York issue?

Having spent months per year in New York for the past five years, I can report that the obsession with guns in the city and surrounding burroughs is much greater than in places like Dallas, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Phoenix, Atlanta, etc.

Any half hour conversation always involves guns at some point and the question is always, “What kind of gun do you have?”, as opposed to, “Do you have any guns?”. You expect anyone that you talk to to have at least one, you are not surprised to learn that it’s illegal, and they don’t have it for hunting.

In the five homes surrounding a friend’s home in a nice area, I learned that there were fifteen guns in total at a barbecue.

Why this is the case is beyond me but, I would expect the local and/or state government to be addressing this issue in some way. Not knowing these things, other states may be shocked at the city’s attempts to somehow get control over gun ownership. This is another situation for Fred federalist ideals.

ews48 on August 22, 2007 at 07:13 pm
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