Ron Paul Wins CPAC Straw Poll

Which illustrates just how useless the CPAC straw poll is. Paul’s supporters (and Mitt Romney’s supporters) swamp it every year and the results are pretty much worthless.

But what’s interesting is that, beyond Paul and Romney who stuff these polls all the time, there really isn’t anyone else the voters seem interested in.

Here are the results:

Ron Paul: 30 percent
Mitt Romney: 23 percent
Gary Johnson: 6 percent
Chris Christie: 6 percent
Newt Gingrich: 5 percent
Tim Pawlenty: 4 percent
Michele Bachmann: 4 percent
Mitch Daniels: 4 percent
Sarah Palin: 3 percent
Herman Cain: 2 percent
Mike Huckabee: 2 percent
Rick Santorum: 2 percent
John Thune: 2 percent
Jon Huntsman: 1 percent
Haley Barbour: 1 percent
Others: 5 percent
Undecided: 1 percent

Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are such long shots as to be non-entities. Chris Christie has said, repeatedly, that he’s not running and given his anti-gun stance probably couldn’t win the nomination anyway. Mitt Romney supported Obamacare at the state level (Romneycare in Massachusetts) and I can’t see him winning, and Newt Gingrich’s bid is more about selling books than anyone else.

And those candidates take up 70% of the vote.

What the CPAC poll makes clear, if it makes anything clear at all, is that conservatives truly haven’t found their candidate yet.

For what it’s worth, Ann Coulter says the only way Republicans win in 2012 is with Chris Christie. Otherwise, she says, Romney will win the nomination and Republicans will lose.

I don’t know about Christie, his anti-gun stance will make it tough, but I don’t see how Romney offers enough (or really any) ideological contrast with Obama on one of the most dominant issues: health care.

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  • Anonymous

    You biased anti-Ron Paul writers suck.

    If anybody else wins, that would be the news. But when Ron Paul wins all the establishment lackeys try to belittle it and make it look insignificant.

    Well I’ve got news for you. Ron Paul has the most consistently Constitutional voting record of ANY member of Congress. HE predicted the financial mess we are in over 30 years ago and has been pressing the issue ever since.

    There is a reason that Ron Paul has won the CPAC presidential poll for the past 2 years. It’s because he is the best, most credible, candidate. Its NOT because he “stuffs the ballot box”.

    These other “candidates” are jokers compared to Paul, who has studied history, understands the central values our founding fathers tried to instill in our Republic (non-interventionism [not isolationism], sound money, and states rights, and individual liberty), and has the ability to lead our nation and Monetary system back to sanity.

    You will have my vote again Dr. Paul, and this time around millions and millions of other American citizens who have woken up to the hideous Orwellian caricature of the United States that we live on today.

    • Anonymous

      I have gone through this before – if your demi-god Paul is not able to mount an effective campaign, guess what – it is his fault. He is not connecting with the people, his message is not connecting, he has the personality of a spud. I am not insulting him or you, you cannot brow beat people into voting for him, in fact it makes people even less likely to vote for him. He has to make the sale himself or no damn crying.

      This straw poll is meaningless, how many states did he win last time around in the getting the nomination? How many in the General Election? Despite your love affair with him and his message, you are wrong, he is not connecting with the people across the country. The best candidate does not lose like he loses.

      • Anonymous

        Don’t blame Ron Paul for the fact that the media blacked him out and prevented his campaign from flourishing the way it should have.

        He won 2/3 Republican debates, then Vermont wouldn’t let him participate. Even though he won the debates, the media did exactly what they’re doing now and marginalized him, ridiculed him and labeled him as fringe, the whole time saying he was unelectable and didn’t have a chance to win (implanting that biased pretense into peoples mind).

        Then he wasn’t event allowed to speak at the RNC. As google searches for Ron Paul went up media coverage went down, a trend opposite of the establishment backed candidates. Check Google Trends. Mainstream media (80% of which just so happens to be controlled by 5 companies headed by globalist insiders) stifled Ron Paul’s ’08 campaign for their own benefit and prevented him from getting the attention he deserved. Now that the predictions he made during his last campaign (especially regarding the economic downturn) have come true, one by one, it will be much more difficult for the corrupted mainstream media to portray him as a “fringe nut job”. What’s so fringe about the US Constitution (the supreme law of the land) anyway?

        Seems to me only un-Americans would consider the Constitution “fringe”.

        You are foolish to assert that his followers worship him as a demigod. We would follow anyone who had the same Constitutional stance. Ron Paul has been our only legitimate outlet in a presidential election cycle in decades, since the last time he ran in 1988.
        It’s not about Ron Paul, it’s about the message.

        You wouldn’t understand because you don’t stand for anything.

        • Anonymous

          Those are just EXCUSES! If he is the right man, with the right message and the people are not buying either – then it is his Damn Fault or the fault in the message! Get that through your head, no one is obligated to support or like him or buy his message – he is the salesman, he has to close the deal with the American people. How can he be the only legitimate candidate if virtually no one supports him? You say he is your little god and everyone that doesn’t vote for him are meanies or stupid or whatever negative thing you want to say, but no one owes him a damn thing – nothing nor you. No one has any obligation to buy his message, he has to sell it, but he like his supporters like you just turn people off.

          I don’t stand for anything? Pal you have not been around here very long or very often or even if you hated my every word, you could never honestly say I don’t stand fro anything.

          • Anonymous

            You obviously didn’t even read my last message, except for the last sentence.

            What DO you stand for????

            I just explained how his campaign as sabotaged by the media and how fools like you were brainwashed to believe he didn’t have a chance, and to not take him seriously.

            And already told you that a higher percentage of his supporters than any other candidate’s actually cares and are informed, but you have said nothing to counter my argument. Need I say more. . .

          • Anonymous

            IIt seems your arrogance in this matter knows no limits. As I told you, it is Pauls responsibility to make the sale and so far he has failed. You are his worst enemy, your approach only makes peope angry and work against his message and him.

          • Anonymous

            What a joke. You can repeat yourself all you want, ignore my questions, and fail to respond to my statements. What do you not understand about the media playing favorites and marginalizing

            Do you deny that the way media portrays people will affect the viewers opinion?

            P.S. What do you stand that’s so great if it’s not sound money, non-interventionism, states rights an individual liberty?

          • Anonymous

            It is up to the candidate to break through the media freeze out, it is by having a message that resonates with the people, that the people will embrace and they will force the media to open the door. What you cannot understand is that you have a poor candidate, it is so easy to make excuses, to blame others and cry me a river of tears. Paul needs to man-up, get media advisers on board with him, craft his appearance and message and then the people will push him over the line.

            Stop the crying and making excuses, he is the salesman, if he cannot close the deal with the American people it is HIS FAULT!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Exactly Old Pal, I couldn’t agree more.

            Now tell MoRtiS_NoCTu who your candidate is.
            That will show him!

          • Anonymous

            How about you going to hel . . . sorry, I keep forgetting you are there already with your father. Now leave me alone crud!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Old Pal, if you can’t think of a candidate you’d vote for, just say so.
            The name calling is just silly.

          • Anonymous

            You clearly don’t understand the way modern media works. Vested interests conceal, spin, and slander anything/body that would interfere with their profits/dominance.

            When Paul’s message is not stifled, his message resonates with the people more than any other candidate, and he has built a grassroots movement that is unparalleled in politics. This is why you see him winning straw polls, because his supporters are active and energized by the resonance of the message, unlike any other candidate’s supporters.

            Ron Paul has served 10 terms in the House, and is revered nationwide, even worldwide as a dedicated supporter of Freedom.

            You don’t understand how the media (at the behest of it’s fat cat owners, who issue talking points and restrict free speech) can and do manipulate people’s perception of reality. If the media is against you, it is near impossible to get your message out. You hav no concept of this.

          • Anonymous

            You are part of the reason Paul has no chance, you are an arrogant ass! If anyone disagrees with you and Paul they are ignorant fools, unable to comprehend the wonderfulness of Paul and his message. Tell me, if he is so beloved and revered around the world and has such a grass roots movement, why doesn’t he win any real contests? You are enamored of him and his message, but it is like any radical group, you think it is unfair that others keep your side from winning and you demean them all for not agreeing. Just your arrogance alone would tell me and many millions more that there is something wrong with Paul and his message.

            Granted the media is powerful, but George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin and many GOP/Conservatives have broken through that wall because they had the personality, appearance and well crafted message that together were able to garner enough support among the voters. Paul fails that test, it is his fault, he is a failed messenger with a faulty message. Maybe he will get better before he gets too old, change his appearance, get better at delivering a more popular human centered message and win; but win or lose it is up to him and you are not doing him any good.

          • Anonymous

            You are clueless. You’re whole little list of candidates who have “broken through” is a fallacy. It is just a list of establishment insiders who have played their parts.

            George H. W. Bush?? Mr. New World Order himself! The bush family is an oil family. Oil is the currency of the global elite. This country was bought out in 1913 by central bankers and every president since then has been a puppet, with the exception of Kennedy who Halle GED the bankers with Executive Order 11110 and was killed shortly thereafter.

            Did you know Prescott Bush funded Hitler and got caught? They are criminals.

            And as for me, the “arrogant ass”, I am fed up with people who are backing candidates that have no respect for the rule of law. It’s not that you can’t “comprehend the wonderfullness” of Dr. Paul and “his” message, it’s that you disrespect the founding principles of this country and have no regard for the Constitution.
            “like any radical group”??? What is the slightest bit radical about following the Constitution?

            “why doesn’t he win any real contests?”. He has been a member of Congress in TX for over 10 terms. That is a lot of “real contests” that he has won.

            You are a typical pathetic unwitting drone that has been completely brainwashed by mainstream establishment propaganda.

            If Paul is a “failed messenger” with a “failed message”, then so were Washington and Jefferson.

            You are completely clueless to the corrupt nature of political reality; a bunch of puppets serving the banks that rule the planet.

            Wake up.

          • Anonymous

            As I said, you are Ron Paul’s worst enemy – I would never vote for him because of Storm Trooper followers like you. He will never become POTUS!

          • Anonymous

            Typical brainwashed response. Ignore all facts and evidence presented and make conclusions about entire political and philosophical policies based solely on the personalities of political activists who you argue with online.

            You never even responded to a single statement I made or answered my repeated question of “What do you stand for?”

            All you did was repeat your confused allegations that it’s Ron Paul’s fault that the media ignores and marginalized him, making widespread understanding of his positions virtually impossible, without understanding the corrupted process that is actually occurring.

            Until you get a clue, don’t bother trying to build straw man arguments that you can’t win.

            And if you can’t handle other peoples free speech and expression then maybe you should move to China. Freedom isnt always pretty, and certainly isnt always the way you want it to be. You might as well just stop responding to me.

          • Anonymous

            Do you really think your attack language approach is winning any Ron Paul converts?

            Don’t you believe in personal responsibility for Ron Paul for his failure to win last times around?

            Exactly what did I say that indicated any hostility to free speech, exact words please?

            You only came here to SAB to campaign for Ron Paul and advance the Libertarian Party agenda and all you have done is sound like a wild eyed storm trooper and you are turning people off to Ron Paul. That just isn’t very smart. You are Ron Paul’s worst enemy.

            If you want to know what anyone here at SAB stands for, stick around and debate the issues. I’ll tell you one thing I oppose Paul because he does not share my moral/family values as far as I can tell; or my desire to only seek to elect Christians that are willing to end abortion, not permit homosexual marriage or allow special laws to protect gays.

          • Anonymous

            “Attack language”? I’m just calling I like it is.

            No. I don’t believe it was Ron Paul’s fault that his campaign wasn’t more successful last time. How many times do I have to say he was shafted by the media. No one can win if they aren’t portrayed accurately and are constantly ignored, slandered, and misrepresented.

            “libertarian party agenda”??? Ohhh, you mean preserving our Bill of Rights and Constitution?

            As opposed to your bigot anti-gay agenda?

            If I want to know what anyone here stands for I have to “stick around and debate the issues”?? I can’t ask and receive an answer like any other circumstance? If you can’t think of anything that you stand for on the spot, than you stand for nothing.

            Ron Paul’s worst enemies are the un-American sheeple that are ready and willin to throw the Constitution and Bill of Rights away.

            You are so clueless that you think that the Federal Government actually has jurisdiction to make any legislation regarding abortion or gay marriage at all. Those are both State’s rights issues and have no place at all in Federal Government. Addressing these issues Federally is disregarding the limitations placed on Federal Government by Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution.

            Obviously you don’t even care. You have been successfully indoctrinated into the left-right paradigm and don’t even realize that your main focal points are, in effect, non-issues.

            Listen to yourself, the 3 issues you brought up, “abortion, gay marriage, and “special laws to protect gays” aren’t even under the jurisdiction of Federal Government.

            This conversation is like arguing with an annoyingly naive and confused wall (who’s also a bigot).

            If there’s one thing I’ve learned overtime, it’s that you can’t argue with someone who already holds irrational beliefs.
            I’m done with you, sheeple. Go graze.

          • Anonymous

            Do you really think your attack language approach is winning any Ron Paul converts?

            Don’t you believe in personal responsibility for Ron Paul for his failure to win last times around?

            Exactly what did I say that indicated any hostility to free speech, exact words please?

            You only came here to SAB to campaign for Ron Paul and advance the Libertarian Party agenda and all you have done is sound like a wild eyed storm trooper and you are turning people off to Ron Paul. That just isn’t very smart. You are Ron Paul’s worst enemy.

            If you want to know what anyone here at SAB stands for, stick around and debate the issues. I’ll tell you one thing I oppose Paul because he does not share my moral/family values as far as I can tell; or my desire to only seek to elect Christians that are willing to end abortion, not permit homosexual marriage or allow special laws to protect gays.

          • Anonymous

            You obviously didn’t even read my last message, except for the last sentence.

            What DO you stand for????

            I just explained how his campaign as sabotaged by the media and how fools like you were brainwashed to believe he didn’t have a chance, and to not take him seriously.

            And already told you that a higher percentage of his supporters than any other candidate’s actually cares and are informed, but you have said nothing to counter my argument. Need I say more. . .

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Old Pal, is this MoRtiS_NoCTu your new pal?
            If he’s not, whyja call him pal?

          • Anonymous

            No time for you today crud, go back to hell with your father.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            I understand, Old Pal.
            You’ve been caught and you can’t face it.
            Good luck with your shame.

          • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

            I haven’t been here much in the last week and I see that BACK_DOOR_BOOB is still gloming on every thign that you say.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, he is still a giant turd!

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, he is still a giant turd!

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RKUEHF3NG2Z32RT4B5A3Y7HUE Kenny

          I’m sorry, but as a libertarian, Paul annoys me. His whole philosophy of government is “if I do it, it’s legal, if I don’t it’s not.”

          He is unwilling to compromise and reduce government, he takes special interest money from nazis and KKK members, and he’s an insufferable fool to boot.

          I’d vote for Obama before him, and Obama is terrible.

          • Anonymous

            You have to be kidding me, right? This comment shows you have no concept of Ron Paul’s position. He has never voted for anything that violateds the Constitution, so the whole “Of I do it it’s legal” thing you are satin is entirely inaccurate. Ask any Ron Paul supporter. That sounds more like Bush, who echoes Nixon when he said just about that same thing.

            Ron Paul believes firmly in the values laid out in the Constitution, which firmly include respecting all others Constitutional rights and not interfering with individuals’ freedom.

            He opposes wars not declared by Congress (as mandated in the Constitution).
            He supports sound money and opposes counterfeiting.

            You obviously don’t understand these base concepts.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RKUEHF3NG2Z32RT4B5A3Y7HUE Kenny

            He voted for the original AUMF which authorized the President to declare war against anyone without Congressional approval. It is the single most unconstitutional bill that has ever passed, and he was part of it. He refused to reform welfare. He voted against the Partial Birth Abortion bill, etc.

            As a libertarian, I spent a lot of time researching him before the election, even posting a comprehensive article here about how worthless he was as a candidate.

            Spare me, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. As with most Ron Paul supporters, you seem to be sorely uneducated.

          • Anonymous

            Ron Paul supported tracking down any terrorists involved in 9/11. He has repeatedly spoken out against Presidential Declarations of War and introduced legislation to attempt of force Congress to declare war with Iraq instead of letting Bush illegally declare it himself.

            And he consistently votes against any Federal abortion bills because the Federal Government has no jurisdiction when it comes to abortion. Paul rightly believes it is an issue that needs to be dealt with at a state level.

            So you found 1 vote of Paul’s that could potentially be considered unconstitutional, depending on your interpretation of the bill.

            Compare that to countless unconstitutional votes by other congressmen. Ron Paul by far has the most consistently Constitutional voting record.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RKUEHF3NG2Z32RT4B5A3Y7HUE Kenny

            Paul voted for the original AUMF which allows the President to declare war without Congress. So, that one’s out. He voted against the PBA bill because it “said that abortion was sometimes legal”…which it is, And he refuses to reduce the size of government.

            The dude sucks. And like most Paul supporters, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RKUEHF3NG2Z32RT4B5A3Y7HUE Kenny

            He voted for the original AUMF which authorized the President to declare war against anyone without Congressional approval. It is the single most unconstitutional bill that has ever passed, and he was part of it. He refused to reform welfare. He voted against the Partial Birth Abortion bill, etc.

            As a libertarian, I spent a lot of time researching him before the election, even posting a comprehensive article here about how worthless he was as a candidate.

            Spare me, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. As with most Ron Paul supporters, you seem to be sorely uneducated.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I didn’t intend this as an attack against Ron Paul, but let’s face it: He wins these straw polls all the time because his supporters stuff the ballot box. They’re meaningless.

      • Anonymous

        He wins the straw polls not because his supporters “stuff the ballot box”, but because his supporters are the only supporters of any candidate who care enough to go out and participate.

        Why do all the other candidates have such a bad showing? Because their supporters are mainstream media fed drones who don’t actually care, they just pick from the media’s favorites when it comes to the final vote.

        If it’s so meaningless then why bother covering it? And if you are covering it, don’t try to marginalize the winner. Take it as it is and stop trying to twist the results to diminish the showing of any candidate. If your not playing favorites, then write an article that doesn’t favor or marginalize anyone.

      • Anonymous

        He wins the straw polls not because his supporters “stuff the ballot box”, but because his supporters are the only supporters of any candidate who care enough to go out and participate.

        Why do all the other candidates have such a bad showing? Because their supporters are mainstream media fed drones who don’t actually care, they just pick from the media’s favorites when it comes to the final vote.

        If it’s so meaningless then why bother covering it? And if you are covering it, don’t try to marginalize the winner. Take it as it is and stop trying to twist the results to diminish the showing of any candidate. If your not playing favorites, then write an article that doesn’t favor or marginalize anyone.

    • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

      Ron Paul is a loon and horrible candidate for president, that’s all we need another horrible run the presidency Paul. Now is Rand Paul was going to run I would consider voting for him…

      • Anonymous

        Great writing. Name call and offer no examples to back your insults. You are just ridiculous, and terribly confused to boot.

        Hahah you are clearly delusional. Why would you vote for Rand and not Ron? They have basically the same views.

      • Anonymous

        Acorn, tree, distance

  • robert108

    Every nutbag has his constituency, and Ron Paul has his. We certainly don’t need a reactionary buffoon in any position of power, if we want to defeat the commie Dems.

    • Anonymous

      Paul is less reactionary than prophetic. He predicted the mess we are in 30 years ago. You literally have no clue what you are talking about.

      • robert108

        If the world ever does come to an end, there will be legions of nutbags coming out of the woodwork claiming to have been prophets.

        • Anonymous

          Good job trying to make your point without actually saying anything.

          The fact is Ron Paul was right, going back 30+ years, and any idiot can see that.

          If you want to bypass the Constitution then you need an amendment. All of these other modern day politicians disgerard the law and lull th public to by giving out money printed out of thin air while driving the train right off the rails.

          • robert108

            I said plenty, but you are lying and denying.

    • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

      Big 180 McCain voter, since McCain probably won’t run again, if the election were held today, who would you vote for?

      • robert108

        Two more lies from you, drama queen. My position on McCain has never changed. I didn’t vote for him, I voted for Sarah.

    • Anonymous

      109: Why waste your time answering this little crud rbb, he is just playing his demonic games for his own amusement, He doesn’t want an answer or a discussion, just something he can attack.

      • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

        Old Pal, if you’re not man enough to answer a simple question, why dress up Big 180 McCain voter in your nancy pants as well?

        Come on Old Pal, who would you vote for today?
        If you can’t think of someone, I will gladly post a list of possible candidates.

      • robert108

        It is necessary to counter his commie lies.

        • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

          So Big 180 McCain voter, assuming you can’t vote for McCain again, who are you ready to vote for today?

          • robert108

            Too bad you lied twice more, but since you don’t know any better, drama queen, I will be ready to vote in early November, 2012. Sorry I have to tell you that.
            I voted for Sarah. My position on McCain hasn’t changed. I never wanted him for President. Too bad you are too stupid to understand that.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll leave this piece of filth to you – every time I interact with him I sense his father in hell inside him and it disgusts me. I have never come across anyone so demon possessed as this little crud.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            OK Old Pal, how about Alan Keyes, would you vote for him?

  • Jimmypop

    the old school establishment does not want the REAL change he wants to bring. they have too much invested in their positions.

    until the gop finds a better candidate, i am a paul guy all the way. they will keep dropping the same BIG-government-the-way-i-like-it mcsames every 4 years, telling us ‘you cant have guy like this in power! they are kooks that will wreck our country!’….while the gop grows government, doubles spending and take away more of our freedoms….and tell us all how different and better it is when a mcsame does it. after all, he has an ‘r’ behind his name.

  • Brent

    I’m fairly certain that if anyone but Paul, Johnson, or Christie wins the GOP nomination and goes on to become president, we should expect no real change from the status quo.

    • robert108

      The status quo right now is that we are on the road to Marxism, so your wish will not come true.

      • Brent

        It’s not a wish, Robert. It is an assessment that most politicians are, when judged by outcomes, crummy and horrible, including the vast majority of the ones with R’s behind their name.

      • Brent

        It’s not a wish, Robert. It is an assessment that most politicians are, when judged by outcomes, crummy and horrible, including the vast majority of the ones with R’s behind their name.

        • Jamermorrow

          It will be more of the same I agree with you. Americans like big government. Most conservatives I talk to even like having big government.

  • Anonymous

    If you were looking for passion in a speech Ron Paul delivered. I was somewhat disappointed in Herman Cain. Same speech he had before but he sort of botched it.

  • Anonymous

    Hard times bring about some out of the box thinking. I think Donald Trump is an arrogant a_s, I don’t think much of him as a person , but maybe he is the man that may have the tenacity and business wit to slash and burn entitlements as heartless as he fires people. ( I have never watched his shows, can’t stand him). I don’t know if he is a social liberal like Chris Christy, but I have noticed his out spoken contempt for Obama. The republicans want to cut the budget 100 billion , Rand Paul 500 billion. It has to be cut $1.5 trillion or we WILL become the Weimar Republic. This is simple math for 6th graders. Obama is a joke with his hard cuts of 775 million. We have to cut $1.5 trillion annually and promote business so this country grows at 5% a year to increase revenues to cover the 14 trillion debt which is climbing. Wait till interest rates start speeding up the debt clock. The day for easy , fussy decisions are over or there will be riots in our streets like Greece seen when they had austerity forced on them.

    • Brent

      Too bad no one takes it very seriously. In the House, where Republicans have not only control, but all the momentum and the mandate from the HUGE victory in the last election, they are bickering over whether they should cut $32 billion or $100 billion. This is at a time when they know that they could easily cut $100 billion and not really have to cut $100 billion, because they’ll “have to” compromise with the Democrat Senate and President Obama. God Forbid we had a Republican Senate and Republican President… the House would probably be debating how much to INCREASE the budget!

      We really need to cut to the chase when it comes to these presidential candidates. Like them or not for whatever reasons, there are probably three, maybe four if we count Daniels, people on that list that have proven they would make any kind of serious effort to restore a balanced budget. The rest, we either have no idea about what they’d actually do or they’ve proven they’ll compromise away the country. But we can’t vote for Paul, Johnson, Christie, or Daniels because various big government interests within the GOP don’t like them… which leaves us pretty much where we were in 2008 where we fielded a big government dope who went so far as to “suspend” his campaign in order to “save” the country by further bankrupting us with more socialism/corporatism.

  • Anonymous

    I would have voted for 2H9.

    • 2hotel9

      Thanks!

    • Anonymous

      cute 2/9 even pushed the like button.

      • Anonymous

        What’s not to like? ;)

  • 2hotel9

    “Ron Paul Wins CPAC Straw Poll” Stuck on stupid, once again. Luap Nor and Romney, what the hell is wrong with people?!?!

    • Bat One

      ABBO!

  • Brenarlo

    I think this time will be a lot different for Ron Paul for a few reasons. 1) Domestic policy is on the forefront and I haven’t met a conservative who doesn’t like Paul’s views on domestic policy. 2) He’ll raise even more money than last time because Ron Paul supporters are emboldened. 3) Campaign for Liberty, his grassroots group, is around and serves to organize. 4) He has a few friends in Congress, which is more than in 2008. 5) After the dust has settled a bit on the financial meltdown, it’s beyond debate that Ron Paul very accurately predicted the housing bust and unemployment. 5) He’s more well-known than the other GOP candidates, except Palin and Romney – and neither of them have a chance in my opinion.

    I’m a big supporter of Ron Paul, but even I recognize that he still has an enormous task. I don’t think he’ll get the nomination, but he’ll do better this time. And I don’t think his campaign is as much about winning as it is about bringing awareness to his issues… and if that’s his goal, he’s already been tremendously successful.

  • Brenarlo

    I think this time will be a lot different for Ron Paul for a few reasons. 1) Domestic policy is on the forefront and I haven’t met a conservative who doesn’t like Paul’s views on domestic policy. 2) He’ll raise even more money than last time because Ron Paul supporters are emboldened. 3) Campaign for Liberty, his grassroots group, is around and serves to organize. 4) He has a few friends in Congress, which is more than in 2008. 5) After the dust has settled a bit on the financial meltdown, it’s beyond debate that Ron Paul very accurately predicted the housing bust and unemployment. 5) He’s more well-known than the other GOP candidates, except Palin and Romney – and neither of them have a chance in my opinion.

    I’m a big supporter of Ron Paul, but even I recognize that he still has an enormous task. I don’t think he’ll get the nomination, but he’ll do better this time. And I don’t think his campaign is as much about winning as it is about bringing awareness to his issues… and if that’s his goal, he’s already been tremendously successful.

    • Jimmypop

      he really is closer to ‘tea party’ folks values than almost anyone except palin….and that is his and her problem. they generally want to wreck what the old school has built and pass power back to the states. NOT a good thing if youve got centralized power to uphold.

      the gop likes to pretend they give a crap…they dont. they just want BIG, BIG, BIG government ‘their’ way. look at our own state right now. we have MASSIVE government spending, a push for centralization of government, ‘right thinking’ morality being legislated and more regulations being created by our ‘conservative’ gop…… not so grand anymore is it? its just like hovey now……a little liberal in an empty suit.

    • Anonymous

      While you and Jimmypop seem more reasonable than most Ron Paul acolytes and thus less off-putting, it seems to me there are two major, almost impossible obstacles in his way: (1) I do not believe family values voters will ever support him, his libertarianism seems not to advance theirs (mine too) agenda and would be counterproductive to them. (2) He has a personality/charisma deficit and whether his devotees like it or not, voters, in large part, vote based on how attractive both physically and personally the candidate appears. Paul fails that test miserably, while he has commands of the facts, his personality is terribly off-putting. You might contend people should vote on the issues, the program and the facts not on superficial things like appearance and personality; but that it is to deny reality as most voters are not engaged until late in the election cycles and will lean more to the general attractiveness of a candidate than on the issues: Proof? Barak Hussein Obama, no experience, no credentials, no policies, all smoke and mirrors and because of that he remains fairly popular.

      Sorry guys, Paul does not have a snowball’s chance in hell when measured on the attractiveness scale and that will kill him, while he will have to get a very significant number of independents to overcome the loss of values voters.

      • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

        Nice to read that you agree with me about Mr. Paul, Old Pal.

        Say, if you wouldn’t vote for Paul, who would you vote for it the election was today?

        • Anonymous

          You and I and your father in hell do not agree on anything you low life crud!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Old Pal, I don’t think Ron Paul has a snowballs chance in H E double hockey sticks to win the gop nomination, what say you?

      • Brenarlo

        I laid out the things working positively for him and you pointed out, quite correctly, the things working negatively for him. I happen to agree that his negatives out-weigh his positives regarding winning the nomination. I subscribe to everything he stands for, but I’m only one vote.

        But like Goldwater, who paved the way for the Reagan Revolution, Ron Paul’s legacy will be the path he paved for the next wave of liberty candidates. We’re already seeing that.

        • Anonymous

          Oh yeah, who is the Reagan guy?

      • Jamermorrow

        I have a feeling the Republicans will choose another Bush, McCain or Dole and we will have the choice between big government republican style or big government democrat style. In my lifetime the Republicans have not ran an actual small government candidate.

  • Jimmypop

    here is a link to pauls speech. im guessing most of the ‘conservatives’ here wont like much of it.

    love this quote foreign aid is “Taking money from the poor people in a rich country and giving it to the rich people of a poor country” and how we need to wake up and see that we have spent $80B in egypt on a dictator……who family thats now worth $40+B. weird how that works, huh?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5KyWxU-bkg&feature=player_embedded

  • studakota

    I agree with the Donald, Paul cannot win. But he likely will prevent a better candidate from winning. This is not going to be just another election. If a strong, energetic, principled, patriotic, and truthful, candidate, is not presented to the America electorate, and Obama wins another term, I’m not sure this country can survive. Fate has intervened though and given us several good people who fit the bill. Newcomers like Ryan, Issa, Cantor, Bachman, Palin, and others, their qualifications should be debated amongst conservatives. I would hope, though, that the the New York Times, or The L.A.Times, will not be allowed to pick our candidate, as they did last go round. We are in extreme peril, at this time, but we’ve been there before. Trouble is nearly half the people are believing the tripe being presented by the other side. There is little room for error on the roads ahead my friends.

  • studakota

    I agree with the Donald, Paul cannot win. But he likely will prevent a better candidate from winning. This is not going to be just another election. If a strong, energetic, principled, patriotic, and truthful, candidate, is not presented to the America electorate, and Obama wins another term, I’m not sure this country can survive. Fate has intervened though and given us several good people who fit the bill. Newcomers like Ryan, Issa, Cantor, Bachman, Palin, and others, their qualifications should be debated amongst conservatives. I would hope, though, that the the New York Times, or The L.A.Times, will not be allowed to pick our candidate, as they did last go round. We are in extreme peril, at this time, but we’ve been there before. Trouble is nearly half the people are believing the tripe being presented by the other side. There is little room for error on the roads ahead my friends.

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    Which illustrates just how useless the CPAC straw poll is…

    But what’s interesting is that, beyond Paul and Romney who stuff these polls all the time, there really isn’t anyone else the voters seem interested in.

    Great point Rhubby! This CPAC poll doesn’t really represent the Conservative voters opinion about Ron Paul and Romney, but the other polls that reflect the same opinion about Paul and Romney, do.

    That makes a lot of sense Rhubby.

  • Anonymous

    Until you start communicating like a human being, you deserve every insult possible, none are too low for you and you do not deserve any answers to any questions. Now please stop stalking and obsessing with me, I do not appreciate your demonic overture you crud!

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      That’s no way to talk to your host, Rhubby, Neiman.

  • Anonymous

    the rbb/neiman act is so stale it makes Hope&Change seem fresh.

    Rob: Can’t DISQUS provide an “ignore button”?

  • Anonymous

    What is it that bothers non libertarians about Ron Paul. No foreign entanglements? Decreased military presence overseas?

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

      For me, it’s mostly his neo-isolationism. But there’s also the matter of leadership. In the twenty plus years he’s been in Congress, can you name me one single bill that he has authored, that has passed at least the House of Representatives, much less both houses and been signed by the President, to either enact or repeal so much as a single bit of legislation? Has he ever authored anything that even a majority of his own party voted for?

      If he can’t persuade 300 of his colleagues to agree with his ideas, how is he supposed to persuade 300 million to follow his leadership?

      • Anonymous

        Ron Paul is absolutely NOT an isolationist! He is a non-interventionist, which, very arguably, promotes stronger healthy relationships with other countries.

        This is a constantly regurgitated misconception about Ron Paul that needs to be corrected once and for all.

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          “Ron Paul is absolutely NOT an isolationist! ” Then he should stop saying things that indicate he is. In my post on the straw poll, I list six links where I have dealt with Paul (and his isolationism) in the past. I can’t tell you which one and I don’t have time to look tonight, but I’ll dig up some of his more noteworthy neo-isolationist musings if it looks like Paulbotulism is going to break out again.

          • Anonymous

            You claim he’s a “neo-isolationist” but can’t name 1 thing off the top of your head to prove it?

            Please tell me what you interpret as isolationism so I can show you why it is not isolationism. You are obviously confused.

            Why don’t you just look up Ron Paul on YouTube explaining why his policies aren’t isolationist. I’ve heard him explain the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism at least a dozen times.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I gave you six different links giving my reasons. I should stop everything I’m doing and repeat myself just because you stomped your tiny feet? Go to the links or wait until I have time. Or else you can just proclaim victory and remain in your ignorance.

          • Anonymous

            Where are the 6 links you are talking about??? I didn’t receive any links in your response. Is it up higher in the Comments section????

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “In my post on the straw poll”…on the front page…

            http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ron-paul-wins-straw-poll-gets-to-keep-straw/

            Some of the links are to videos of Paul saying such things. Again, if I had time tonight, I’d go through all of them for you.

          • Anonymous

            Just looked at all your links and didn’t see anything isolationist.

            The founding fathers advised us against entangling alliances and meddling in foreign affairs. There’s no reason we couldn’t trade and communicate with nations without getting all involved with their business and using taxpayer money to try to influence events.

            We don’t have jurisdiction outside of our country and if we don’t want foreign troops in our country, we shouldn’t have our troops in other countries.

            Trade and travel and communicate with all, no policing the world with taxpayer money.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Did you watch the videos? I’ll review the videos when I get a chance and spell it out.

          • Hannitized

            You linked to videos that you are not aware of the content to support your claim? A rather odd way of trying to CYA.

            You should just give up and hide, we know insulting all you’ve got anyway. Well, that and only personal insults. You could at least try and pepper your insults with some facts and evidence. Well see how well you do.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hannitized: You are such an asshole. I knew what was in the videos, but I didn’t want to attempt any direct quotes from Paul because I hadn’t memorized them.

            Did you lose the avatar with the man purse, or are you seeing how well you can sockpuppet with this commenting system?

            “You should just give up and hide” You first.

          • Anonymous

            I agree with Hannitized. I’ve seen all the vids in your links, did read all the commentary and know exactly what I’m talking about.

            There is nothing isolationist about any of what he says. You are either misinterpwreting what he says or outright and intentionally spinning it.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Too bad no one has visited my blog long enough to watch the videos and read the commentary since I posted the links. Not that i’m calling you a liar, Rigor mortis, but if the shoe fits…BTW, Did you adopt the name “mortis” because of the space between your ears?

          • Anonymous

            I bet no one ever visited your blog long enough to read all the commentary and watch the videos, because your blog SUCKS.

            You’re just a disinfo shill who pretends to partially respect Ron Paul for his “adherence to the Constitution” on “domestic policy” to try to make yourself look more credible and disguise your true identity of a disinfo shill.

            And on the off chance that your not CoIntelPro then your analysis is just garbage. Dimwitted, mentally stunted, garbage.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RKUEHF3NG2Z32RT4B5A3Y7HUE Kenny

            Ah, the cry of the Paulista who hears that his dude isn’t a great candidate.

            Heaven forbid anyone disagree with his miraculous ability to walk on water and multiply fish.

            It’s a shame that it’s impossible to have a debate with one without being called a horrible person for disagreeing.

          • Anonymous

            You’re not a horrible person for “disagreeing”. You’re a horrible person for misrepresenting Ron Paul’s views and slandering him for no reason other than that you are a horrible person.

            GO FLOCK, SHEEPLE!!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Poor baby! Next time you visit my blog, scroll down to the Sitemeter at the bottom of the page and see just how many people are not reading my blog.

            “your blog SUCKS.” And since you have been proven to be a liar here, what’s one more lie, eh, snookums? If you had any credibility at all, you probably wouldn’t have to rely on Hannitized for your affirmation. Few people here have less credibility than he.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            BTW, Are you so mind numbingly stupid that you did not see that I replied two minutes before your asinine factless rant?

          • di_da_is_alpha

            Hey, the gray primer is a much better look for you. Maybe you should use some Bondo and give yourself a little definition, especially to those toothpick arms.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Ever since I outed him for his man purse, NTTAWWT, Hanni has been a little testy.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            BTW, You notice how much MoRtiS_NoCTu smells like Bloggerman100? He and Hanni agree a lot and like each others comments. Two fellow travelers or just Kapok for brains?

          • Anonymous

            This is the first time ive ever been on this shit site. And I found I through google news so I’m not any alias on this site other than this one.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            This is the first time ive (sic) ever been on this shit site. And I found I (sic) through google news …

            Not only are you every bit as eloquent as Hannitized, but sweet tempered, as I have noted, and mildly apostrophobic as he is.

            Oh, and it wouldn’t be the first time that one of Hanni’s sockpuppeets denied being one if you are. It is a bit odd that your closest “soul mate” on this blog is a flaming lib who hates everything conservative. Perhaps, in reality, (a place Hanni has certainly never been) I’m more closely aligned with Paul than you are?

            If you are merely one of Hanni’s fellow travelers, then I apologize for insulting your intelligence by pointing out how much you sound like him.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            How about the first one?

            Let me preface this by saying that I admire Ron Paul for (most of) his views on the Constitution. He is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment, and his views on domestic policies are largely in alignment with mine. But on matters of foreign policy, the Congressman and I part ways. I heard this interview early this AM and have not been able to get it out of my mind. At around 4:35 into the video, Congressman Paul says the US is an empire. This is either hyperbolic on his part or he is badly mistaken. This may be due, in part, to what I call Paul’s neo-isolationism. Our military projects the power of the US beyond our borders. Congressman Paul sees this influence as some kind of “empire”, though not one classically defined*. I see it more as “deterrence” and “influence”. We want to encourage other countries to embrace freedom. We want to discourage other countries that would take freedom away.
            *The US has defeated a number of enemies and we have seized neither their lands nor their resources, which is what empires typically do. On this point, Congressman Paul is wrong.

            Then, he goes on to speak about how we don’t need to be the cops of the world and how we don’t need nine hundred plus bases around the world, and both those things may be true! There are certainly areas around the world where we could reduce our presence while still projecting our power. However, when asked about coming to the defense of our allies, Paul said this at 5:08:

            “No, I’d treat Israel like all the other countries.”

            Really? I have heard this from Mr. Paul’s mouth before and I am still no less incredulous. The idea that we should treat all countries as equals strikes me as either naively idealistic or borderline insane. The idea that we would treat Great Britain and Israel the same as we would Iran or North Korea is preposterous.
            I believe, in theory, we should treat all people equally as well. But, if I see two men coming at me on the street and one is carrying a Bible and the other is carrying a switchblade, I’m going to treat those two individuals differently. Refusing to aid our allies until the enemy is at our doorstep is a good way not to have any allies when the enemy is at our doorstep.

            …we don’t get involved in their internal or external squabbles and we just stay out of it

            “Squabbles?” My dictionary defines “Squabble” as a petty quarrel. Does Congressman Paul believe that Israel fighting for its very survival is a “petty quarrel”? Is smuggling rockets to Hamas indicative of a petty quarrel? A petty quarrel might be the neighbor playing the stereo too loud or too late at night. The first RPG I lob through my neighbor’s window escalates that up from a “squabble” to something more.
            But, if it’s just a squabble, then let’s not send warships to the gulf, let’s send guidance counselors! A couple of good shrinks with a PhD in psychology and we can solve all the problems in the Middle East. After all…they’re just “squabbles”, right?
            One would think that after so many years of public service that Mr. Paul could be more precise in the words he uses to describe the US and our allies’ plight in the world than “empire” and “squabbles”? Unless, that’s what he really believes…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            All that just to prove you don’t understand the meaning of the word “isolationist” or “isolationism”?

            Thanks Poofy, for showing us you can put words in other peoples mouths, and still not understand what they mean.

            You are dismissed! Now talk about me some more, like an obsessed freak.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            All that just to prove you don’t understand the meaning of the word “isolationist” or “isolationism”?

            Thanks Poofy, for showing us you can put words in other peoples mouths, and still not understand what they mean.

            You are dismissed! Now talk about me some more, like an obsessed freak.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I don’t need to talk about you, Hanni. Your own stupidity is obvious to all, in nearly everything you post. You are your own worst enemy, Tiki Troll.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            This, from the guy who thinks he proved Ron Paul is an isolationist simply because you have cut and pasted another person who wrongfully accuses Paul of isolationism. Too funny.

            You haven’t proved MoRtiS wrong, by any stretch of the imagination. And trust me, the only way you get by on a daily basis is based on your imagination of who you think you are, and what you think you have said.

            You proved nothing, except you don’t understand the word isolationism.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            This, from the guy who thinks he proved Ron Paul is an isolationist simply because you have cut and pasted another person who wrongfully accuses Paul of isolationism. Too funny.

            You haven’t proved MoRtiS wrong, by any stretch of the imagination. And trust me, the only way you get by on a daily basis is based on your imagination of who you think you are, and what you think you have said.

            You proved nothing, except you don’t understand the word isolationism.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Clueless Wanker: Do you type just because the clicking noises echo nicely in the vast, empty canyons of your head?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hannitized, the Bug on Proof’s Windshield said: “you have cut and pasted another person who wrongfully accuses Paul of isolationism”. If you weren’t terminally stupid, Wankertized, you might have clicked over to one of those links and educated yourself. This “another person” I “cut and pasted” here was me quoting myself from an article that ignorant louts like you are incompetent of finding on your own. The quote is an analysis of the video none of you dullards watched either.

            Ron Paul proves my point with his own words. Too bad your ADD kicks in long before you even get to the video, TikiTrollitized.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Who would know? You didn’t link to your own stupidity and wrong conclusions.

            I should have known you were quoting yourself. Nobody else could bet that stupid to come to the same conclusion.

            You seriously tried to prove your point by linking to your own comments as a source of supporting evidence? Lord, you really suck at blogging.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Who would know? You didn’t link to your own stupidity and wrong conclusions.

            I should have known you were quoting yourself. Nobody else could bet that stupid to come to the same conclusion.

            You seriously tried to prove your point by linking to your own comments as a source of supporting evidence? Lord, you really suck at blogging.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            No, I linked to the analysis of a video that brain dead morons such as yourself are too lazy or intellectually impaired to watch, much less understand. Try educating yourself and maybe you won’t sound so stupid all the time, Wanker. Start with second grade.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You seriously tried to prove your point by cutting and pasting your own comments as a source of supporting evidence? Lord, you really suck at blogging.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Have someone read my last comment to you. You clearly cannot understand written English.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Twist and spin moron, at the end of the day you can’t squirm away from the fact that you are referencing your own comments to support your stupid point of view.

            That’s beyond arrogant and asinine. But that suits you, doesn’t it?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I’m sorry! Did you bleat something?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Did you bleat something?

            Nope! I accurately called you out for cutting and pasting your own stupidity to support your stupid claim that Paul is an isolationist, as if you knew what that word actually meant.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Have someone read my last comment to you, and explain it to you this time. You clearly cannot understand written English.

          • Anonymous

            All that means is that you copied and paste yourself not understanding the meaning of the word non-interventionism an that Hannitized didn’t know it was you because it doesnt matter. The initial writer of the passage was confused.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            As I pointed out to Dimwititized, the copy was an analysis of Paul’s own words in the video I posted. For you half wits to claim you understand what I am saying when you haven’t watched the video for any clue to the context is laughable!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            For those who have not yet entered second grade (and you know who you are, Hanni!)

            isolationism (ˌaɪsəˈleɪʃəˌnɪzəm)

            — n
            1. a policy of nonparticipation in or withdrawal from international affairs
            2. an attitude favoring such a policy

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Congratulations Poofy. You have now shown us that you can look a word up and still not know what it means. Pathetic!

            Paul is suggesting that our military not be involved in supporting them, but he can still participate in an economic participation. Thus, destroying your lame-brainded idea that Paul is an isolationist

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Projection. More unintended humor from the guy who thinks “camp” is short for “campaign”.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            As I recall, you looked up the expression “ad hominem” and still didn’t understand what it meant. You used the common expression “du jour” and had no clue what it meant, and then there was the famous hanni-ism “knit-picking”, which you defended until you were a walking, talking pile of stupidity. “Pathetic” seems to be a rather strong word for an illiterate such as yourself to be using to describe anyone.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Only the clueless Wanker took the two word French phrase “du jour”, and misspelled it as one word: “dejour”. I think when he wrote the word “pathetic”, he was just signing his work. Then, his ADD kicked in and he wrote a little more.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Heh.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            As I recall, you don’t know what an ad hominem is, or the combined words “ugly American”, you screwed up understanding what a proportion is, as well as an entire long list of words and phrases.

            All of your distractions aside, none of it excuses Poofies stupidity.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Unfortunately, none of what you claim is true.
            “Combined words?” Like “ugly American?” Flamemeister is a combined word. “Dumbsh!t” is a combined word. Keep trying, Dumbsh!t.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            A “combined word” is different than “combined words”, dipsh!t.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            I fear for you. (Well, actually not.) Do you feel cyberbullied? A band of tightness around your head? A sensation of tears coming to your eyes, watery snot to your nose?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Are you really so stupid as to not know that the word “combined” also means “combination”?

            Really? I mean, really?

            You bring stupidity to a whole new level.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Do you really, really, mean really? Of course combined and combination are related—but they don’t mean the same. (Hint: to start with one is an adjective, the other a noun.) Are you really, really that vacant in the head?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Of course combined and combination are related—but they don’t mean the same.

            Well that would be rather odd for a dictionary to use the word “combination” as a meaning for the definition, would it not?

            You blithering idiot.

            Combine:n. (kmbn)
            1. A power-operated harvesting machine that cuts, threshes, and cleans grain.
            2. An association of people or groups united for the furtherance of political or commercial interests.
            3. A combination.

            http://www.thefreedictionary.com/combined

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            You are so busy making a cut-and-paste fool of yourself that you failed to even notice a truly large mistake that I made! Hee-hee-hee! When you find yourself stuck in a hole, quit digging.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Advice to yourself? Haha.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I don’t comment on half of your idiotic mistakes. The difference between Poofy and I.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Between Poofy and “I”?

          • Anonymous

            Nail on the head, again. All Paul is saying is avoid unnecessary international military affairs.

          • Anonymous

            Thanks for reading our interactions and backing me up bro.

          • Anonymous

            Wrong

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Trying reading the entire piece in its context and actual watch the video before your knee jerks and you jump to a conclusion. All that jumping is making you spill your Kool Aid.

          • Anonymous

            Dumbass. I already told you I read all of them in their entirety, and watched all the videos. And note that I didnt have to watch the videos on your page. I open separate YouTube windows, so that time doesn’t reflect on the time I spent on your page.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Dumbass. I already told you I read all of them in their entirety, and watched all the videos. And note that I didnt (sic) have to watch the videos on your page. I open separate YouTube windows, so that time doesn’t reflect on the time I spent on your page.

            You are such a notoriously bad liar Rigor Mortis! You meant the pages you spent twenty seconds or less on, you had time to both read the commentary AND click over to You Tube? And since the timestamps tell me you viewed one page right after the other, you want us to believe NOT that you are lying through your fecal stained teeth, but that you digested all the commentary on six pages in four minutes without first viewing the videos the commentary was based on? No wonder you’re a Paulbot!

            You finished page six, four minutes and ten seconds after you started. The video on the first page is nearly ten minutes long. Your uber lame explanation doesn’t fit the facts. Much like another troll who visits these pages, who has a penchant for sockpuppeting…(Assuming you really did visit all six pages. There’s only one entrance on the log who did and “Guest” is claiming he read all six pages, too. At least one of you is lying. Or maybe you and “Guest” are the same “person”?)

          • Anonymous

            And if you pay real close attention to my previous posts, I say I’ve already seen the videos. I didn’t exactly specify, but I had already seen 4 of the 6 links.. So for the 2 videos that I hadn’t seen, I opened them up in separate youtube windows and . . . What a suprise, your an idiot who can’t correctly interperet the English language! You don’t understand the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism, and instead of addressing that, or the actual issues we are talking about, you throw names around and try to personally attack the character of the people who are calling you out as a fool.

            I had a comment yesterday that laid out specific philosophical reasons for non-interventionism, and you never addressed a single point I made. And then accused me of lying (falsely and failingl in the process) and claiming that I didn’t read YOUR previous commentary on the subject (which proves how pathetic you are because only a fool would refer someone to their own commentary and fail to remember any specific reasons their beliefs on the spot) .

            And if you think your own confused commentary proves any point you are trying to make, you are sorely mistaken.

            Like I stated before, you are a moron. You should change your name from “proof” to “propaganda”.

            And if you actually believe anything you are saying then you are completely retarded. Like I stated before. YOUR ANALYSIS IS GARBAGE. Don’t get pissed at me because you don’t understand the difference between non-interventionism and isolationism.

            Why don’t you just watch one of the dozens of videos of Ron Paul explaining the difference between his position and isolationism and straighten yourself out once and for all?

            Oh right, because you are an un-American, Co-Intel-Pro, Trolling, disinfo SHILL.

            proof-positive MY ASS. More like mouth-running, war-mongering, foreign internal affairs-meddling, Fake extraordinaire. I’m done with you.

            GO FLOCK, SHEEPLE!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            First I want to complement you on your powers of analysis, Rigor Mortis. You skimmed seven pages from my blog and decided that my blog “sucks”. You base this on exactly 0.16% of my posts, where you already disagreed with me. It’s the kind of statistical analysis I would expect from one of your caliber. And intelligence. And class.

            ” I’m done with you.” Promises, promises! I hope you do your drama queen moments better than Hanni. He made the same empty headed threat nearly three years ago and hasn’t been able to stay away since. I will miss your unimaginative name calling, Rigor. Yeah. Right!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So instead of debating his argument and facts, you go all “private dick” on him?

            That’s not strange. /sarcasm

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Maybe if only his argument, (or yours) consisted of something more than the intellectual equivalent of “No, he’s not, neither!” *Yawn*

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Scroll up and tap on the shoulder of an adult who is next to you at the public library, where you obtain computer and network access, to read to you what it says.

            The answers are there, you just don’t understand the definition of the word “isolationist”.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            …says the troll who cannot understand the words “as” or “an”.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Says the guy who can not undersand the definition of the words “and”, “or”.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I understand them, Hanni. You’re either a fool and/or insane.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            As an idiot, you portray the lunatic fringe quite well.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni: Idiocy often skips a generation. Just because you’re an idiot, doesn’t mean that I am, too. Your grandmother, now, that’s another story!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            As an idiot, you portray the lunatic fringe quite well.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Your grandmother, now, that’s another story!

            Your lack of class is noted, as is your general scumbaggery. You should be ashamed, but that requires that you first have a soul. I guess we know why you are divorced and alone.

          • http://enigma-cypher.blogspot.com/ Enigma_Cypher

            The sock puppet extraordinaire speaks of “class”.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Was that supposed to be coherent?

            Hint: it wasn’t

          • http://enigma-cypher.blogspot.com/ Enigma_Cypher

            Poor larry. Can’t think of any decent response.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Pointing out your incoherent babble is a “decent response”, all two thumbs up worth.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Trying reading the entire piece in its context and actual [sic] watch the video before your knee jerks …

            You should try and finish the entire word before you ask anyone to complete anything. You may now get back to your references of “jerking”…it’s about the only thing you are good at.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Wow! Hannitized, Proof’s Trained Monkey actually caught another typo. Your mother must be so proud!

          • Spartacus

            You know what they say about blind squirrels. Even with you’re possessing a barbed wire jock strap he still wants your nuts in his mouth and will stop at nothing until he achieves his goal…a real “tea bagger”!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            He doesn’t like the fact that when he mistakenly tries to “correct” other people’s correct grammar, other people point it out to him. Calling Hanni a squirrel may be just too insulting to the intelligence of squirrels.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Seriously, you had to flag your typo??? You are that pathetic? Hilarious!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “You are that pathetic? ” Hanni’s autobiography in four words.

          • Anonymous

            Hit the nail on the head

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Hitting Poofy The Private D1ck with fact is exactly like hitting the nail on the head. They’re both very tiny, without a brain and hard headed.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni, the Master (bater) of ad hominem demonstrates his projection with yet more name calling.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You forgot “accurate”.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hannitized, What Proof Scrapes off His Shoes Should he Step in It, accuses me of “forgetting” something he has never achieved. Jealosy ill becomes you, Tiny Wankertized.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Jealosy [sic] ill becomes you, ..

            Spelling has always made you look stupid. Pretending you can make an argument makes you look retarded. Defending yourself from your own stupidity makes you look desperate.

            Now please leave one of your 3 overly used responses, because you lack that much creativity.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Give yourself a cookie, Tiny Wanker. What is that? Nine typos of mine you’ve caught over the last three years? You catch as many of my typos in a year as I do in a single sentence of yours Dimwititized.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You can’t spell, and now you can’t count. Every time I catch you, you claim it was the 9th error. It’s not surprising, you seem to be stuck in a rut that you can’t get out of.

            You repeat the same tired lines over and over, and focus on the same stupid trivialities over and over and over. You can’t shake it, it’s where you are in your life, and how you have ended up.

            Alone and meaningless.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Nice projection, Wankertized. You’re either lying through your fecal stained teeth, or your ADD has kicked in and you just can’t remember that the last time you caught one of my typos was the eighth time.
            Find any other place where I said you caught “nine typos” and we all won’t laugh at you as the pathetic obsessed loser with the typo in his screen name.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Nice projection, – tired line #1

            lying through your fecal stained teeth – tired line #2,

            or your ADD has kicked in – tired line #3

            How many times are you going to prove me right in this response, before people just start understanding that i have you pegged?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Wee Willie Wankertized: If there are three constants in your comments, it’s your lies, projection and if not ADD, then mind numbing hypocrisy as you pretend outrage over things you yourself do constantly.

            It’s not the repetition of my remarks that gets to you, Wanker…it’s the accuracy.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It’s not the repetition of my remarks that gets to you, Wanker…it’s the accuracy.

            No, trust me……it’s your lame repetition.

            Here’s how it looks to sane adults: When constantly burp out the same tired lines, over and over and over and over again, it doesn’t show any creativity or intelligence. It says to the reader that you are out of ideas and that you can not be creative enough, or intelligent enough to address the situation at hand. On top of that very important point, it makes you look pathetic. It does so because it comes off like you are an old man who has found his 5 slanderous remarks that he uses over and over and over and over, each time thinking he is being funny. It makes you look very odd and very desperate.

            Take my advice, come up with some new criticisms, or names. You simply look like a pathetic, loser.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Wankertized: Thanks for both illustrating your ADD and your projection in the same comment! You say that I need to come up with “new names”, when you have maybe three for me and two of them you parrot from rbb and Sparkie. While I, on the other hand, have come up with literally dozens of names for you, Wankertized. You see, Wee Willie Wankertized, had your ADD not kicked in, you might have remembered Tiki Troll, Tiki Twerp, Tranni, Kahuna of the Kiddie Pool, Full-of-crapitized, Little Kahuna, ,and dozens of others. (Not even to mention the names I came up with for many of your sockpuppets as well, Party of ADD.) I will admit that “Bloggerman100″ is rather hard to parody!
            “You simply look like a pathetic, loser.” Hannititzed’s autobiography in seven words.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            …your ADD and your projection…

            Squaaawwk, projection…..squaaawwk, ADD, squaaaaawwwk.

            Two more tired lines from Poofy.

            Hannitized’s auto-bibliography…

            Squaaawwk, auto-bibliography….squaaawwk!!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Too funny! I call the pedestrian Pinheaded Parrot of the Pacific on his empty mimicry of others, in lieu of argument, and his response is more unintelligible squawking.(Note for those of you with ADD: “Pinheaded Parrot of the Pacific” is a NEW name for the Tiki Troll and Oaf from Oahu and Kahuna of the Kiddie Pool, not something regurgitated from fellow travelers, like…well, you know!)

            You might say that this comment is Hannitized’s Projection Dejour*.

            *How the Poseur of the Pacific might spell “du jour” if he were only an empty headed birdbrain.
            Oh, wait. He did. He is.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            funny! I call the pedestrian Pinheaded Parrot of the Pacific on his empty mimicry of others,

            Nobody cared the first time you made a pointless argument. Why would anyone care the second time?

            It cracks me up that you really think your measure of intellect is based on your ability to use ad hominem. I did write names, but I meant “lines”, as that was the thrust of my argument.

            And do you really think someone else has called you Poofy, Proofoundly_trivial? Or was there another name people had given you….vuvuzela??

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Wee Willie Milli Vanilli has the attention span of a mildly retarded sand flea.

            I did write names, but I meant “lines”,

            Yeah, Priscilla Queen of the Surfers writes stuff, meant something else entirely and still no one cares.
            BTW, that’s not a “typo”, that’s a mentality that loses arguments with shower mold.

            I see you’re still parroting rbb whenever you can get your lips off his backside long enough to type.

          • 2hotel9

            Yes, Proof is accurate in each thing he posts. Thats what pisses you off.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            All that just to prove you don’t understand the meaning of the word “isolationist” or “isolationism”?

            Thanks Poofy, for showing us you can put words in other peoples mouths, and still not understand what they mean.

            You are dismissed! Now talk about me some more, like an obsessed freak.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            (Rigor) Mortis: First, let me first compliment you on your speed reading ability, if not your comprehension. Someone spent 0 to 77 seconds looking at each of the six pages. That’s hardly enough time to read the commentary much less watch the videos the commentaries were based on. Since you said, “links” plural, I assume that was you. (Other people who clicked over from those links spent less time and only looked at one page.)

            Oh, that’s right! You said you “looked” at the links! Some people might think that implied actually reading them for comprehension. My bad!

          • Anonymous

            Hey asshole, maybe you’re a slow reader but I read all the commentary on each of your pages and have seen the videos.

            You obviously either don’t understand Dr. Paul, are intentionally misrepresenting his views, or just don’t give a shit about the Constitution, how taxpayer money is spent, or wether the gov has the right, obligation, or ability to continue to afford most of their overseas activity.

            I don’t really care, because honestly I think you are moron.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Anyone whose ever debated him knows he’s a moron. But he has convinced himself otherwise, all without ever having to support his ridiculous claims with facts or evidence. The only thing he can do well is use Microsoft Word to check your spelling and grammar.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            And Hannitized has more projection than a multiplex!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            BTW, Moronitzed: Microsoft Word doesn’t check the misuse of homophones. And I don’t need it to spot 99% of your other errors (even though I only call you on the most glaring ones).
            Anyone with a second grade education could correct most of your errors, Wankertized. Or not make them in the first place.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy the Private Dick, did you have to investigate how long people spent on your pages, their IP’s and seek out private information when they challenge your stupidity? Or do you actually argue the points they are making, that prove you are an incompetent?

            You should stop doing less investigations as to how long they spent on your website and more time arguing their points.

            Poofy The Private Dick’s work:

            You meant the pages you spent twenty seconds or less on, you had time to both read the commentary AND click over to You Tube? And since the timestamps tell me you viewed one page right after the other, you want us to believe NOT that you are lying through your fecal stained teeth, but that you digested all the commentary on six pages in four minutes without first viewing the videos the commentary was based on? No wonder you’re a Paulbot!

            You finished page six, four minutes and ten seconds after you started. The video on the first page is nearly ten minutes long. Your uber lame explanation doesn’t fit the facts. Much like another troll who visits these pages, who has a penchant for sockpuppeting…(Assuming you really did visit all six pages. There’s only one entrance on the log who did and “Guest” is claiming he read all six pages, too. At least one of you is lying. Or maybe you and “Guest” are the same “person”?)

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Poor Wankertized! He and his little friends (and sockpuppets) hate it whenever someone catches them in a lie.

          • A Citizen

            Uh Oh!! Careful Proof, little man willie bonilla is now fixated on YOUR dick. His boss(s) must be pissed at him and cut him off.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            You have as much projection as Hannitized! Give yourself a cookie!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            And you’re every bit as sweet natured as Hannitized. Let’s recap: You’re both liars. You’re both foul mouthed. Only one of you is an Obama loving, Reagan/ conservative hating flaming lib and one of you at least pretends to be a supporter of a conservative/libertarian Ron Paul. That about sum it up?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Be advised, Poofy The Private Dick likes to stalk his challengers who prove his arguments illogical and or lies. He will contact your friends if he can find out who you are and search our your employer so he can threaten to report you for anything you say on line, or while you are blogging during lunch (company time). He will post pictures of you if he can search them out on the internet and steal them.

            When he’s not being an all out psycho, he simply personally attacks instead of defend his inability to understand words, such as “The Palin Camp” and a long variety of words….feel free to add “isolationist” to the long, long list of words.

            Most of refer to him as PROOFoundly_stupid, or simply Poofy The Blog Poodle because he’s always defending Rob Port (who lies equally as much or defames their political opponents with mischaracterizations), or in blog poodle terms; humping his leg.

          • 2hotel9

            Poor trannitized, you want to lose that fight all over again. Why don’t you post more pics and claim they are of the interiors of secure facilities, and then post the names of people and claim they are your close personal friends and work associates. Then you can vanish for a month or so and then return and screech that people are picking on you.

            Go ahead, trannitized, prove to us yet again that you are truly stuck on stupid.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni the Tranni has been out of touch with reality for so long, he’s forgotten what it looks like.

          • 2hotel9

            Yep, you paulettes continue to sheeple along, too stupid to think for yourselves. Here is a question you can not think about. If Luap Nor is such a great man why has he NEVER done any of the things he keeps screeching about? He has been in Congress since 1979 and done nothing but ram his pockets full of tax payer’s money. Why is that, paulette? But don’t think about it, just continue to sheeple along, bleating the same moronic sh*t you sheeple always bleat.

          • Spartacus

            WOW, Huffington just took over AOL. AOL’s best and brightest are now searching for new homes!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            AOL? Always Only Liberal?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Has he ever explained the difference between “conservatism” and Neoconservatism”? Because Paulbots abuse the term “Neocon” more than any group I can recall.

            Maybe if e gets that definition wrong, some of his others are wrong, too?

          • 2hotel9

            neocon=Jew, always has and always will.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            More specifically, they were Jewish liberals who saw the light and the error of their ways and became conservatives. Paulbots and liberals like to bleat “Neocon” in their ignorance, because they think it makes them sound more intelligent. It doesn’t.

          • Bat One

            The term “neo-conservative” was coined by Midge Dector who co-founded the movement with Irving Kristol in response to the crime, corruption, and filth brought about in NYC by a succession of liberal mayors. Their definition of a neo-conservative was “a liberal who has been mugged back to reality,” an exquisite slap in the face of self-delusional liberal ideology.

          • Bat One

            Paul-bots don’t have the intellectual”stones” to qualify as neo-cons, nor do they have the integrity to sneer at them. The Paul-bot policy prescriptions would make the US a third world ghetto every bit as quickly as the policies of the one-world progressive autocrats of the Left.

          • 2hotel9

            Yep, you nail it. Democrats and other racist c*nts hate Jews because of the mental and moral superiority to Democrats and other racist c*nts. Once again you have clearly defined the basic concept. And I distilled it down to its basic essence. Which will piss off the racist Democrat a$$holes, as it always does. F*ck them. LOL

    • Anonymous

      I think it’s the fact that he hasn’t killed a girlfriend, porked an intern or bowed before his muslim handlers.

  • Anonymous

    On isolationism. Can the U.S. survive as an isolated entity?

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

      Long term? No.

      • Anonymous

        What would we lack long term, why?

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          That’s a very lengthy and involved answer. Why don’t you see what you can figure out for yourself, write it all down and when I have time, I’ll critique your answers.

  • Anonymous

    Complaints commonly listed and complained about on SAB/ foreign aid, United Nations, foreign oil, foreign wars, treaties where USA got stuck, Propping up of dictatorships(Mubarak), infiltration of Radical Jihadists, American troops killed overseas, American treasure spent over seas…… It looks like Ron Paul is on the right track for isolationism.

  • william

    When someone in the past wins C-pac they are generally anointed one of the front runners. When Ron Paul wins it, they say it doesn’t matter. Here are a couple of examples of how the debate is shaped for us.

    “Romney’s straw poll win at the 2007 Conservative Political Action Conference helped to elevate Romney from a little-known governor to a bona fide presidential frontrunner”

    “Libertarian Republican Congressman Ron Paul won a presidential straw poll of conservatives on Saturday in a result that showed Republicans have far to go to pick a challenger to President Barack Obama in 2012.”

    Now for all you that haven’t quite yet seen the light on Ron Paul.

    Rasmussen Reports that Republican Congressman Ron Paul against President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 election match-up, and the race is – virtually dead even. Election 2012: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%

    « Rasmussen produces some of the most accurate and reliable polls in the country today. »

    -Larry Sabato, University of Virginia

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

      William: Many early polls are skewed heavily by name recognition. That’s one reason I believe why Romney and Huckabee and even Newt Gingrich place so high in early polls.

      The straw polls, much like the flawed Iowa caucuses can be influenced by, what we will politely call, “carpetbaggers”.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks

    • Bat One

      Professor Sabato isn’t exactly the most non-partisan observer of our electoral politics. He’s a moderate Democrat which is why he is so often a guest on Fox News Channel.

      Ron Paul would have made a first rate GOP presidential candidate… about 120 years ago. His anti-Federal Reserve diatribes alone disqualify him from any serious consideration. His monetary prescription is the equivalent of using tin cans and string to communicate in an age of cell phones and the internet.

      • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

        I like the Paulbots’ litmus test: If you don’t support Ron Paul for president, you’re unAmerican.
        Gosh. After all this time, who knew??

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Of course you like that litmus. It’s the same one you Tea Party nut jobs use for Conservatives.

          Oh, the irony.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

    According to Politico:

    A source close to the conference said the Paul group bought 1,000 tickets to the conference, and a Paul aide told another Republican that they’d recruited at least 700 supporters to vote for him.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/At_CPAC_the_race_for_second_place_as_Paul_goes_all_out.html

  • 2hotel9

    MoRtiS_NoCTu is exactly why Luap Nor will never be POTUS.

    • Anonymous

      You’re exactly why this country is going down the toilet. Go flock Sheeple

  • 2hotel9

    Yep, you paulettes continue to sheeple along, too stupid to think for yourselves. Here is a question you can not think about. If Luap Nor is such a great man why has he NEVER done any of the things he keeps screeching about? He has been in Congress since 1979 and done nothing but ram his pockets full of tax payer’s money. Why is that, paulette? But don’t think about it, just continue to sheeple along, bleating the same moronic sh*t you sheeple always bleat.

  • 2hotel9

    Another day, another pile of crap from the paulettes proving exactly why Luap Nor will never be President of the US. Keep up the good work!

  • 2hotel9

    I notice the Paulettes all dropped out, typically. Yet another reason Luap Nor will never be Presdient, his “supporters” are gutless whiners.

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

      In their cult-like devotion to “The Doctor”, have you noticed that they have a tendency to alienate those who might or could become allies? To call other conservatives names like “unAmerican” because they don’t support Paul, is to cut yourself off from any of those who might band together to actually institute a return to more Constitutional government.

      They are, and it looks like they will remain, on the fringe.

  • 2hotel9

    Yep. And they ALWAYS drop out of any thread in which they are challenged. The weakness of his candidacy is ALWAYS obvious, that is why the paulettes ALWAYS screech so loudly, and then fade away.

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