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Rob,

What Romney supported there was a registered guest worker program (which we need), not citizenship and surely not amnesty.

So you are saying he supported amnesty before and now he doesn’t?  Um, sorry, not.

P.S., Is this more Fred Spam?  You should really get on the Romney Train, he pays much better for his spam.

What Romney supported there was a registered guest worker program (which we need), not citizenship and surely not amnesty.

Romney supported a guest worker program, now he’s trying to pretend like he didn’t.

Americans don’t want a guest worker program.  That’s what got the Republicans voted out of the majority in Congress.  That’s also why Romney is trying to pretend like his illegal immigration stance is something it isn’t now.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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Rob,

What do you have against a guest worker program?  Do you even understand what that is?  It is NOT a path to citizenship, it is just a way to regsiter people to work here legally in these low skill positions.

We NEED these people - we just don’t need them stealing people’s ID’s etc to work.

A guest worker registration is no different that an HB-1 Visa, except that it is for unskilled labor, whereas and HB is for skilled labor.

Are you against H1-B visas as well?

What America is against is a shortcut to citizenship for illegals.

What do you have against a guest worker program?  Do you even understand what that is?  It is NOT a path to citizenship, it is just a way to regsiter people to work here legally in these low skill positions.

What I have against a guest-worker program is that it creates a population of pseudo-citizens who have an interest in leveraging the fruits of our economy, but no interest in actually becoming a part of our nation.

Teddy Roosevelt once said “we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us.” A guest-worker program doesn’t sound like assimilation to me. It sounds like creating divided allegiances to me, and that has no place in this country.

The full Roosevelt quote:

In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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To put it bluntly, I’m not interested in part-time Americans.  Let’s make the legal immigration process easier if we need more low-skill workers.  And let’s let more people in.

But guest workers?  No way, no how.  It’s a good way to sell away our sovereignty.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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I agree with Rob as far as the “Guest worker program” that’s been presented in the Amnesty bills.

On the other hand a seasonal worker program for agricultural workers (and others of similar duration) would make a lot of sense in my mind.

We’d get the lower cost workers and the workers who kept out of trouble could come back year after year. 

But the guest worker programs that have been proposed were for a longer duration and after that supposedly they’d have to go home.  That doesn’t seem right to me.

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.