If you don’t care about North Dakota, then why are you talking on here? Clean up the trash coming out of California. Start in Sac town with the Terminator and then take blinky in Frisco and find Captain Nostril Waxman.

Politicians don’t make mistakes? I think you’re confusing everyone with the Clintons or the Kennedy’s.

As I have said before, Rick Berg’s unethical behavior in this issue shows he has a pattern of being unethical and underhanded (case in point his assisting his mother-in-law and wife into basically stealing inheritance from his wife’s siblings – not sure why Rick and his wife think they are the only ones entitled to the inheritance). If someone will steal from their family, they will do anything to help themselves personally. Criticize me all you want, what he did to his family while not legal shows the true character of Rick Berg in my opinion. He is sneaky, underhanded, dishonest and if he is the candidate I will not be voting for him, I would rather see Earl Pomeroy in the office than someone who shows the behavior patterns Rick Berg displays.

It’s time for the NDGOP to scrap this whole fiasco, and just start over next election.

I am not a delegate, a member of the party or a supporter of anyone in the race, but I find Rob’s constant schilling for Cramer a little off-putting. I love this site, but I was wondering when Rob would begin to carry out the marching orders of Scott Hennen. I guess we know it has started.

I wonder if the list contained information about ND Republicans without insurance, or who had abortions, or who accepted stimulus money, or who had to pull the plug on a loved one, or who embraced socialist programs like Social Security, or got loans from the socialist Bank Of North Dakota, or who bought products produced at the socialist North Dakota Mill, or who accepted farm subsidies?

So both Berg and Cramer are criminals? Thanks, Rob, for vindicating my position.

The good news is that now you’ll have time to get the dirt on Hoeven!

Feel free to write a letter yourself.

Disagreeing with you does not make a person biased.

No, but taking pictures in the White House (possibly illegally, but at least against the request of the Secret Service) for the sole purpose of embarrassing the President and First Lady does.

Refusing to report facts that he has because they are inconvenient for the NDGOP does.

Let me answer that one; Yes they do.

Isn’t Pelosi your congressbitch?

No, “taxpayers” don’t own the White House.

Typical attack piece by Cramer apologists. Hopefully Berg will pay off some delegates so you’ll have more to write about.

Absolutely. Don’t forget Hennen. I charge them all a monthly fee to go around and shill for them. If I’m not shilling I’m working with Goon on impeaching Odumbo. But yeah, for the most part I spend my time shilling for Rob. He pays the most.

“because we all know the party isn’t going to press charges.”

I agree. The only people making a stink about it are the folks deflecting from Berg’s opponent’s vote buying. As you stated, the NDGOP realizes that this is a non issue – then again, they’re not necessarily in the tank for Cramer.

“Paying for a few candidates one personally knows doesn’t exactly make me feel good”

Why not?

No is the answer.
Are you one of Berg’s sock puppets? It’s funny. You sure know a lot about North Dakota politics and the candidates for someone from California.

Prove my claims? Do the taxpayers own the White House? The answer is yes. Your challenge is ridiculous.

Berg is unlikely to be charged criminally because it highly unlikely that he took the list himself and it is almost impossible to prove that he ordered anyone to take it. You are generally not responsible for the criminal act of your subordinates absent them being able to prove some sort of conspiracy.

Typical Cramer apologist, “don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain” nonsense. Is Cramer paying your was as well?

Let’s see, Cramer paid for his son in law. No, none of you would ever pay for a relative would you? Cramer admitted it. As some of you have pointed out, end of story.

Berg’s boys took some emails. They denied it. Smear campaign against Rob starts. Issue ignored so we could bring up Cramer’s son in law again. Cramer somehow at fault for Berg having emails.

Emineth comments. Berg and the boys caught red handed. Instead of coming out and explaining what happened, we get the usual “it’s a distraction” or “what about Cramer?” Well what about Cramer?

The head of the GOP said who was at fault. Guess what? It wasn’t Cramer. It was Rick Berg and the boys.

Many of you want Rob to report things and when he does, you jump on him. Debate and friendly argument is cool, but he shouldn’t be villified for saying he who he supports. He shouldn’t be villified for reporting the news. This is a news site isn’t it? I’m sure many of you wouldn’t dare say anything bad about Cramer, DuWayne, or JD if they had been caught with the emails.

I’m glad Rob reported the news and I’m glad he was vindicated by Emineth’s statement.

That’s a ridiculous comment.

This is a news site isn’t it?

No, this is a right wing attack site as the “news” Rob “reported” about the books in the White House library proves. As far as I am concerned Rob needs to stay as far a way from trying to be a journalist as possible. He is hopelessly biased.

“The Washington landfill is full.”

I thought Pelosi was going to drain the swamp. At least it’s the most transparent ever.

Right back at you double Bull Crap.

Yep

Lioncourt,

Rob is no GOP robot. I don’t recall Rob ever marching in step to McCain, Hoeven, Romney, or countless others. He calls it like he see’s it. If you don’t agree with what he says, then cool, but to say things like he’s trying to embarrass the First Lady or he’s refusing to report things is a little silly.

The Obama’s know what’s in the White House and they must be proud of it and won’t be embarrassed. It’s the people’s house so we have a right to know what’s in there (I’m not talking about their bedroom or anything like that) whether it’s a Bush or Obama White House.

Rob has always reported the facts. He, like all of us, is entitled to an opinion.

If there weren’t bloggers, then we might not even have half the news we have.

I respect you Lioncourt, but I just think those comments were a little unfair. Just my opinion.

In politics, lists are the same as cigarettes in prison. They are the currency of the business.

“Rob, you could help the big picture by suggesting that we need to get to the bottom of how a list of ND GOP contacts gets out of the building in the first place.” BINGO. we need to find out how this happened. right now even the ndgop wont use ‘stole’. they just know he has it. so, as of now nobody can tell us the ONLY thing that matters here….HOW HE GOT IT. as i posted prior, i bet he was (mistakingly) given it by people prior or those that work there part time.

sorry, i dont by what rob is alleging….. that he broke in and stole a hard drive/ disk. i dont think he could have as ricks dark ninja skills have waned as he aged.

“And we’ll see how much of a non-issue it is when the FEC gets involved.”
Ah – so you agree with jimmypop – if he’s done something wrong, put him in jail.”

no, he doesnt…. or he does. i am really not sure at this point.

it seems what rob wants is outrage over a maybe theft, but no real action for some reason. whereas some of us want action. robs in a very odd position and he doesnt know what to want.

So now the Associated Press is in on the Cramer conspiracy too?

That’s pretty…pathetic.

Still shilling for Rob and Cramer?

Right back at you triple steer manure.

also, for the good of ‘the party’ the ndgop needs to get this done NOW if they are going to do anything. they only have two weeks before the elections in grand forks.

then, in your estimation, they dont see it as a crime or cant prove he ‘stole’ it…… sorry, story over.

Either that, or they don’t want the party to come apart at the seams.

And read the story I updated with, Jimmy. The list was seeded with planted contacts so that unauthorized use of it could be detected.

The Berg campaign absolutely had the list. This is proven fact.

You can stop spinning for Berg now any time and just admit that this was wrong.

so, from your understanding, its not whether he gets charged, but with what?

I don’t think the party is going to press any charges, but I certainly don’t speak from them. That’s just my estimation.

But any FEC investigation is out of the party’s hands, and will be done on their schedule.

No, this is a right wing attack site

This is an opinion site. Always has been. Always will be.

Lioncourt is just mad because msot of the people who post here are smarter than he is.

You said:

It’s the people’s house so we have a right to know what’s in there (I’m not talking about their bedroom or anything like that) whether it’s a Bush or Obama White House.

I saw it fitting to issue a challenge to you, to see if you can prove the veracity of your claims.
Again, nothing but bluster. It was a statement with no consequence. A slogan.
The “people” do not own the White house, as is evident by the fact that the occupants pay no rent to the “people.” It is the other way around. The people pay the occupant(s) to live there.
Can the “people decide” to paint the White house blue?
Can the “people” decide what trees to plant on the grounds?

Similarly Yellowstone National Park is the “peoples” park.
Yet we have to pay a fee to enter the “peoples” park.
We pay to see what we own.

You still have not answered the question: Are you one of Cramer’s paid delegates?

but nobody can tell us if he did or didnt steal it. and the victim is keeping their mouth shut.

The victim is quoted in the article as saying Berg took the flipping list.

Put down your Berg campaign pamphlet for a minute and read.

And you’re using the “charge him” thing as a strawman. He probably won’t get charged, because it isn’t just Emineth’s decision and Berg has a lot of friends in the executive committee.

I think he should be, but it’s not my decision.

You keep bringing it back to Cramer because you hate that your boy got caught red-handed and you’d rather talk about Cramer.

We know Cramer paid for delegates. We know that it was just a handful of delegates (as opposed to the Berg whisper campaign which is claiming dozens). But that’s all you want to talk about.

If only you could lay claim to the sort of intellectual honesty you demand from others.

but establishing in court the ‘value’ of this list raising it to felony would be hard to prove.

That’s not true at all. These sort of lists are routinely rented out. I don’t know if this list specifically has been rented out, but establishing value wouldn’t be difficult at all.

if he stole the list, charge him NOW at the ndgop.

From what I understand, there is going to be an investigation into whether or not this violated FEC laws.

And I’m pretty certain it did. Which, if Berg is our candidate, is something the Dems would beat him over the head with.

Odumbo? Who is that? Never heard of him.
Impeach him from where?

Please concentrate on the task you were given earlier:

Since it’s the “people’s house” and “we have a right” to know what’s in there, please write a letter to the current occupant and ask a complete listing of what is in there.
Then post the contents of the list on the SAB blog for everybody to see it.

Don’t jump around like a fufu head pointing fingures.

im desperate? you ask someone for a a widget and they give it to you. you use the widget. please explain whats illegal about that?

Nobody gave Berg the list. Berg took the list. The other candidates in the race didn’t even have access to the list, and no candidates ever get to just have the list.

And how am I elite?

Berg could be put in handcuffs and you’d be moving the goalposts.

What a clown.

I did not say I did not care. I said I have no dog or horse in this race.
Concentrate and read carefully dude……..or is it dudette?

If you make a mistake, you admit to it and move on. You don’t hide and try to distract from the issue.
I don’t think Cramer has been unethical at all. He’s been totally honest about his campaign.

Mistakes? Politicians do not make mistakes.
They make calculated decisions for their benefit, and the benefit of their benefactors.

You all are missing the real issue:
We have two unethical conservative/republican politicians trying to get the NDGOP’s nod for the US congress.
I say to you: Keep your trash in ND. The Washington landfill is full. If you are going to send someone, send an honorable and ethical person.
One paying for candidates, the other allegedly stealing a list………please keep these two out of congress.

“Who said he kinda stole something? Berg took the list and used it. Period.

Whether or not he gets charged isn’t my decision. It does sound as though the FEC is going to get involved though, which I don’t think is something we want hanging around our candidate’s neck.”

rob, the reason i keep bring it back to cramer is because we have two people here. we KNOW one did something stupid. cramer. we KNOW berg has a list (i am assuming its current and not old for sake of argument here….fair?), but nobody can tell us if he did or didnt steal it. and the victim is keeping their mouth shut.

so, we have a no matter what (cramer) and a maybe (berg), yet you only focus on the maybe.

why cant you see we actually agree on this? cramer, no big deal unless the number keeps growing. berg, if he did something CHARGE HIM so we all know to walk away.

“Nobody gave Berg the list. Berg took the list. The other candidates in the race didn’t even have access to the list, and no candidates ever get to just have the list.
And how am I elite?
Berg could be put in handcuffs and you’d be moving the goalposts.
What a clown.”

you kick ass….. a guy tells you ‘put him in jail’ and you hear ‘how dare you defend him?’ simply amazing. put him in jail is a defense? not sure what world you live in, but i dont want to be your pal if you think throwing someone in jail is a solid d.

here is what it comes down to; berg has the list. yup. got it. ive even said it in this thread…..now, if berg stole the list, please tell us how he did it. you have yet to share that tidbit. you know, the actual important part. the part that makes him a thief.

Yeah, I’ve spent a lot of time on the phone this weekend calling district chairs. I’ve found exactly 3 delegates paid for by the Cramers.

His son-in-law and two friends.

I’ll be posting a full report on Monday, but suffice it to say that you Berg guys are trying to sue that as a convenient distraction.

so, we have a no matter what (cramer) and a maybe (berg), yet you only focus on the maybe.

There is no maybe. Berg took the list.

How many times do you have to be told that?

And on Monday I’ll have the story about the Cramer delegates, because I wasn’t just going to publish the Berg whisper campaign rumors.

Nope. And I’m not a delegate either.

Time to jettison Rick Berg and Kevin Cramer.
DuWayne Hendrickson, is he honest?
If he is, he must be the candidate of choice for ND.

It is funny how they rail against the democrats, yet they are willing to sweep the dirt under the carpet for someone they support.

Like I have always said, we have politicians representing us in DC. Look where they have got us. You dont keep on sending more politicians to DC as we just defeated ourselves once again. We need representation that will serve ” We The People ” hendricksonforcongress.com

“You can stop spinning for Berg now any time and just admit that this was wrong.”
rob, are you on crack? how many times in BOLD in this and other posts do i have to write ‘charge him now’ if he stole it? so, not only is it wrong, but arrest him/ his follower(s) for it if he/ they stole it. seriously, dude…..

and for the record, it was YOU that walked from cramers oops like nothing happened…..even when he admitted it and before we know how many people he or his team paid for.

Right. So by being critical…I’m part of the conspiracy?

Go sell crazy somewhere else.

“So both Berg and Cramer are criminals? Thanks, Rob, for vindicating my position.”

no, they are both just stupid to some degree. cramer because he bought some passes and a bus. berg because he used a list he was not supposed to have that was given to him by someone.

until rob or anyone else can prove berg or his posse stole this list, rather than having it given to him, there is just no story here. which has the cramer crew making an unhappy face. more important, i have yet to hear one person on this board or anywhere say ‘if berg stole it, let him go.’ we have all said charge him with a crime if he broke into an office and hijacked this data. the party needs to do the right thing, step up or shut up.

That was my reaction when I first learned of this days ago.

So disappointing. I know many see me as a Cramer partisan at this point, but that’s really not true. I’ve been transparent about the fact that I support Kevin Cramer all along, but I was also of the opinion that a Rick Berg candidacy wouldn’t break my heart.

I said as much on the blog and on my radio show.

But these most recent revelations, combined with the Berg campaigns sockpuppetry, have me thinking that Berg wouldn’t be a good candidate at all.

How come you keep bringing up Cramer, then, if you don’t think he had anything to do with this?

Just my own thoughts here. No we cannot just move along here. Both parties here being in the govt should know what is legal etc. They should know by now that we already have politicians in DC playing that kind of game and “We the People” do not want more of the same. Just keep on checking out my hendricksonforcongress.com website. It will be there til November.

Still no list of the contents of the “peoples house” huh?
That’s what I thought.
You are full of steer manure. All bluster, catchy pronouncements and distractions.
You have no substance.
Are you one of Cramer’s paid delegates?

One “appropriating” lists, the other vote buying, they sure are landfill material….

In politics, lists are the same as cigarettes in prison. They are the currency of the business.

Perhaps, but this list was pretty closely guarded. Even when candidates are allowed to use it, they don’t get the list. They give the info to the state party who then sends the info out.

And in this instance, the list was being held for whoever the nominee was. Meaning there were four other candidates in this race who didn’t get the list…but Berg did.

Because he swiped it.

This is a major deal.

No, this is a right wing attack site

Be careful, Rob.

Don’t let Lie-in-Court’s scurrilous accusation go unanswered.

Google will start falsely alleging that your site carries viruses:

Get deemed a Right Wing Attack Site and get censored
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/get_deemed_a_right_wing_attack_site_and_get_censored/

Lets see, the Berg folks used trolls to call a talk show playing the masquerade game. Some Berg hack trolled this blog using a dummy name for the same reason, now the e-mail thefts. Didn’t really roll in new support for the guy. I was always going to consider him, now, not so much.

You did, by suggesting that Cramer has somehow paid me off.

“He may have won, but I can’t vote for a person who displays character flaws where he thinks its acceptable to steal from family. If he will screw over family, he will screw over the average joe on the street. I am letting it go by not voting for Rick Berg”

read the case….. its not berg thats to blame.