Rick Berg Disagrees With Mitt Romney’s “47%” Comments

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The liberal media is very, very good at manufacturing a narrative and then demanding that Republicans in general disavow the narrative they’ve manufactured. The latest is Mitt Romney’s controversial comments about the 47% of Americans who have no income tax burden. The narrative that has been manufactured is that this is insulting to that 47% because they pay local taxes, or something.

Now, with that narrative established, the lefist media seeks to sow dissent among Republicans by giving them the choice of either going along with the narrative or face a storm of negative press. Case in point, North Dakota Senate candidate Rick Berg:

Asked whether he agrees with the GOP nominee on the issue, Rep. Rick Berg, locked in a tight Senate race in North Dakota, said “absolutely not.”

“The American way is you probably start at a zero tax rate and you work yourself up. I mean, that’s where I come from. I just think it’s unfortunate how that came out. I haven’t talked to him personally about that. But from my perspective, we need to help people up. We need to lift them up, help them have the opportunity to succeed,” said Berg, who is running against former state attorney general Heidi Heitkamp.

See how that works? Because Berg dare not question the narrative, he’s backed into effectively endorsing the left’s notions about better living through endless and expensive social policy. Taxation ought to be low and broad in scope, not high and lumped on a shrinking segment of society. Everyone should pay some taxes, and nobody should pay a lot, because the government belongs to all of us. And if we excuse huge chunks of the population from taxes, they have every incentive to vote for more government paid for by other people.

And yes, the 47% do pay other taxes. They pay into Social Security and Medicare because the federal government, in all their wisdom, has decided that none of us should get to escape those money pits. They pay local taxes, etc., etc. But that’s not the point. The point is that we are moving toward a point where huge numbers of Americans get large amounts of government benefits while facing very little obligation to pay for that government.

This is reality. This is what the left’s narrative seeks to cover up. Republicans ought to be in the business dissenting to that narrative.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • mikemc1970

    Does it matter now that Obama has given up completely?

    “The most important lesson I’ve learned is, that you can’t change
    Washington from the inside, you can only change it from the outside.”

    -Barrack Hussein Obama 2012-09-20

    I say we give him the chance to change it from the outside, in November.

    • $8194357

      Send him to his $35 million dollar Hawian retirement home…
      Class warfare pays well at the top of the elitist pyramid huh.
      Ask Soros and all..
      Jesse and Al will be “green” with envy..

  • RCND

    Damn RINO anyways

  • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

    So even RINO’s are abandoning the RINO gop Nominee?
    Oh that’s a shame.

    “Stop it. This is hard.”

    Mrs. Willard

    • $8194357

      The art of manufactured crisis and controversy the left use so well…
      comes from being such accomplished useful idiot apoligists and liars.
      Taqiyya

    • two_amber_lamps

      Oh you so HATE Anne Romney don’t you?

      Pray tell, why is it those of the alleged “women’s party” so detest women? Palin, Bachmann, now Anne? Why do you hate Mrs. Romney? Is it because she battled back from MS? Or do you just hate her because your little Dem-unist friends TOLD you to hate her?

      Why do you hate the thought of Gay Marriage? That IS why you voted for Obama in the 2008…. Or was it because you were duped into voting for Obama because you really didn’t understand who/what you were voting for? Who did your Dem-unist handlers tell you to vote for?

    • $8194357

      But don’t say anything negetive about Moochele..
      or suffer rascist insults..

  • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

    Is now a good time to bring up the old moocher takers that booed the running mate?

    Paul Ryan Booed By AARP Crowd For Promising To Repeal ‘Obamacare’

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-booed-by-aarp-crowd-for-promising-to-repeal-obamacare/

    • $8194357

      manufactured controversy of the straw man..
      Hows those earings made from turds looking denier?
      So full of s–t..this one is.

      • http://nofreelunch.areavoices.com/ Kevin Flanagan

        The AARP are all commies.

        • $8194357

          Definatly leaning way left Kevin.

        • robert108

          AARP poses as representing the interests of seniors, but actually exploits them for marketing purposes. It loves big govt spending programs, not retired people.

    • robert108

      Retired people are not moochers; they “built that” and kicked in all the money obama is shoveling to his cronies.

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

      The AARP tilts left. Ryan got booed by a predominantly liberal audience. There’s a news flash for you! Run back to the echo chamber and write a convoluted headline about it, Nutterbob.

      • Roy_Bean

        The AARP tilts left??????????

        That’s like saying the Pope “tilts” Catholic!

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          I know. But, you’ve got to consider who I was talking to! Nutterbob doesn’t handle facts or reality all that well. Sometimes, you have to break it to him gently!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            poof, please link us to anywhere I claimed AARP was either leftish or rightish. I know you don’t handle facts or reality that often, so please go easy on yourself when you get to the dead end of your brain.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Nutterbob: Please link us to anything that demonstrates you’ve discovered which century it actually is (an impairment you apparently share with Joe Biden). My response was to your breathless announcement (see: thread jacking) that a conservative was “booed” by a liberal group, as if it had any real meaning or significance at all. Rather like you, yourself, Nutterboob.

            Ryan or his visit to the AARP was not the topic of this thread. As the proprietor of a like new, scarcely used reader blog, only used for cut and paste, you are free to start new topics at will (whatever poor Will did to deserve you!) .

            Plopping it like a Pay Day in a punchbowl, in the middle of this thread, as if it had any real significance at all, was brought on either by your ignorance or your dishonesty (or both). Not giving odds on that one.

            You may now go back to “handling” yourself, Nutterbob. If the “pocketa, pocketa” noise in your head gets too loud, turn on a fan. It will help mask the sound.

          • $8194357

            Whoop there it is….
            Leftist spin and manufactured out rage for deflection and deception…
            Just like thier daddy lucifer taught em all to do…
            There it is…
            There it is…
            There it is……….

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            The real significance of the story boob links to, is that Ryan had the balls to address what he knew to be a hostile audience and tell them what needed to be done. Kinda like when Obama mustered up his courage and addressed the bitter clingers at the NRA convention, where he…what? What’s that, he didn’t?? Never even showed up once??? My bad!

          • $8194357

            My bad?
            Sounds totaly “racist” to me…9sarc)

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I was “liberally” taking the blame for something that was not my fault and apologizing. Did I do it wrong??? Maybe I should bow next time?

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            poof, if you can’t find anywhere I called AARP leftist or rightist, just say so. I will understand

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Have someone read my comments to you, boob. Even though they are in plain English, you’re clearly not comprehending what was said. Let me see if I can “dumb it down”* a bit for you:

            For you to gratuitously (look it up) bring up the Ryan/AARP incident in this thread was illustrative (look it up) of either your ignorance of the AARP’s left of center nature, or dishonesty in bringing it up, as if it had any other significance than Ryan’s courage in being willing to speak truth to power to a hostile and partisan audience.

            We need not look any farther than this thread to discern your purpose in the attempted threadjacking. What you have said elsewhere is, like you, irrelevant.

            *Sorry! Even when I try to dumb things down, I cannot begin to approach your levels of ignorance and stupidity, Nutterbob. Please bring a translator to these threads if you need to. Preferably an English speaker who has at least passed the third grade. That should at least double your comprehension in English!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            poof, just write “I can’t find anything you’ve written that classifies AARP as either leftist or rightist”, all that other stuff is just poof.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            See if you can find some grade schooler in the neighborhood, whose mother doesn’t have a restraining order against you, to read my comments to you. We’ll wait.

            Nice thread jacking, BTW. Hard to blame you, since no one reads what you copy and paste over at “your” place! That’s my theory for why your convoluted headlines keep getting longer and longer, too, since no one visits. Just a theory…

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            poof, I’ll take that as an admission you can’t find anywhere I labeled AARP either leftist or rightist, and be done with it.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I’ll just take your continued obfuscation to mean that, in addition to not being quite sure which century it is, that you either knew that the AARP tilted left, and as such, your threadjacking attempt was meaningless, or that you didn’t know, thought the story was genuinely ‘stop the presses’ newsworthy, instead of just ‘dog bites man’, and then we just revert to the statements about your ignorance, Nutterbob.

            I was merely asking you to confirm which of the two conditions was true. If you have absolutely no idea what truth is, (or can’t remember that far back exactly what you were “thinking”) then yes, let us be done with it!

          • robert108

            You called them “moocher takers”, liar.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            poof, is now a good time to bring up Herb Cain shooting a hole in Willard’s boat as he was climbing out of it?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Herb Caen** assumed room temperature quite some time ago…* much like whatever passes for your mind, Nutterbob. Any more irrelevance you want to dump in this thread, like a Pay Day in a punchbowl?

            Now would be a good time for you to retreat to your echo chamber and listen to the little voices in your head, if they cannot keep you on topic here.

            *Herb Caen**, noted SF newspaper columnist was famous for his frequent usage of the ellipsis…

            **Not “Cain” as I originally had it. Some of Nutterbob’s stupidity must be rubbing off on me!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            poof, *Herb Caen has passed but Herb Cain is on hot Willard’s tail.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AEFRdotvmQ

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            You caught me in a typo! How ecstatic that must make you feel, boob!

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Actually poof, I was thinking how stupid you are.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            ” I was thinking” Sorry, boob! Assumes facts not in evidence!

            But, if you want some real “weapons grade” stupidity, wander over to Camp Echo Chamber and read some of the convoluted headlines that guy writes!

          • robert108

            You described them as “moocher takers”, so you lie again to deceive and deny responsibility.

  • $8194357

    (The liberal media is very, very good at manufacturing a narrative and then demanding that Republicans in general disavow the narrative they’ve manufactured.)
    Thats all rbb and hanni boo boo have as well.

    • two_amber_lamps

      Yep… leftist slugs name the tune and demand conservatives dance to it….

      RINO’s are oh so happy to comply.

      • $8194357

        The perfect description of the MSM’s propaganda and rbb and
        hanni boo boo’s only form of responding to anyone.

    • Davoarid

      “My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” –Mitt Romney, to the 47% of Americans who don’t pay income tax.

      • $8194357

        Answered your stupidity in another thread but what the heck..
        LBJ said he would have the generational welfare vote voting Democrat for 200 years…why should Romney try and “flip the leftist base”?
        And before ya go yell rascist crap..LBJ said niggers not me..
        All ethniticties are well represented on the libaral lefts welfare plantaion apoligist..

        • two_amber_lamps

          “I’ll have those ni$$ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” –Lyndon Baines Johnson

          http://bradfordschmidt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lyndon-johnson.jpg

          • $8194357

            But Romney is in trouble for saying he won’t try to flip the
            very same generational welfare base.
            All ethniticties enslaved by the Dems
            “Marxist social justice war on poverty”.

          • davo

            No, he’s in trouble for saying
            “My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” –Romney to the 47% of Americans who do not pay income taxes.

          • $8194357

            Manufactured out rage for deception and deflection purposes.

            From all you lap dog puppies peeing all over yourself for
            the cause, to the BIG DOG major meda propaganda echo chamber…

            Grasp at any srawman argument to deflect the ME mess
            Barry helped “manufacture”….

            SCAPE GOATING A NEW NARRITIVE…..

  • Harold

    Should have a national sales tax at point of purchase no exemptions for anyone other then food and medical care. Then no one could dodge paying tax’s. As it is now not even the IRS can figure who should pay and who shouldn’t. I think everyone should pay poor, middle class and the very rich, right now thats not happening because politicians let people of the tax hook who shouldn’t be let off if they will vote for them in coming elections. That is not a good tax system in my view. Could do away with IRS altogether with a national sales tax at point of purchase its simple and it works, ask the baltic states who have implemented these types of tax’s in their countries. If we had a national sales tax we wouldn’t have 47% who don’t pay nothing and be arguing about whats fair and what isn’t.

  • matthew_bosch

    Compassionate conservatism=comprimising key conservative principles in hopes the opposition’s perception of public opinion is satiated with a new found compassionate appearance.
    Rob is 100% correct in his assertion that RINOs are foolhardy in their attempts to conform to the opposition’s perceptions, this grants a certain validity to said perceptions and subsequently weakens the candidate’s ability to offer alternative points of view.

    • Davo

      “My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” –Romney to the 47% of Americans who do not pay income taxes.
      If you don’t understand how that’s offensive, you’re either an illiterate or a huckster.

      • matthew_bosch

        Does the left not subscribe itself to moral relativism? Does the left not champion itself and its dear leader FDR as the propietors of pragmatism? Then applying these two key aspects of your ideology to the statement of the “47%” Romeny is correct and I’m not illiterate or a “huckster”(lacking definition). Romney’s perception of the 47% is “relative” to his point of view, thus to a moral relativist such as yourself then he is correct. Now being that the statement is correct under your pretense, he is simply acting “pragmatically” in focusing his efforts toward a constituency which maybe more likely to vote for him. Now if don’t subscribe to moral relativism or are pragmatic like FDR I will quickly inform your comrades for you may need to submit to a re-education facility post haste.

        • Davo

          Do you think it’s a nice thing to say? Do you think it’s an accurate thing to say?

          • robert108

            It’s not nice to lie about what Romney said to distract from the worldwide jihad facilitated and triggered by obama’s foreign policy blunders.

          • Davo

            “My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” –Romney to the 47% of Americans who do not pay income taxes.

          • robert108

            Another lie from you. He was referring to the people who don’t care about tax rates and cutting govt spending. You know this, but are lying to distract from his ongoing foreign policy disaster in the ME.

          • Davoarid

            “My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” –Romney to the 47% of Americans who do not pay income taxes.

          • robert108

            The truth always makes liberal heads explode. You can’t stand the truth.

      • Roy_Bean

        “If you don’t understand how that’s offensive, you’re either an illiterate or a huckster.”

        What I find offensive is that you, and every other shameless democrat liar, are twisting what he said. He was saying that he wasn’t worried about the fact that a large group of people won’t vote for him. He wasn’t saying that he didn’t care what happened to them. Those of us that are parents have, at some point, had to tell our kids that there really isn’t a Santa Claus, an Easter Bunny or a tooth fairy. They have been disappointed for a while because their 3 year old mindset is to believe that we have stolen something from them but they soon realize that it was something that never existed and they grow up appreciating that we were honest with them. Right now we have one “parent”, the democrat party, telling us that the Easter Bunny is going to come and fix all this and the other “parent”, the Republicans, telling us it’s time to grow up. I know this is difficult for you but you can get through it.

        • Davo

          “My job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” –Romney to the 47% of Americans who do not pay income taxes.

          • Roy_Bean

            Repeating it doesn’t make it true.

          • tomorrowclear

            What about God? Did you tell your kids that petitioning the Man in the Sky to take away problems or to give them things isn’t how the universe works? Did you tell them that “wishing things away” by appealing to the Almighty is childish?

          • $8194357

            Why should he tell them that asshat?

          • tomorrowclear

            Why should he tell them Santa Claus does not exist? Can you prove Santa Claus does not exist?

          • robert108

            When you have no point, try to change the subject.

          • $8194357

            Faith is the evidence of things not seen,
            but believed in ones heart as true….
            The Lord makes Himself known to those whom seek
            Him and with humility ask for His Forgiveness/Protection….

            Can’t see air but I feel it move…
            Same with God…
            A shame ya never experianced it…

          • Roy_Bean

            I truly apologize, I didn’t realize you still believe in Santa Claus.

          • $8194357

            Sad sick little apoligist lap dogs wagin the tail for the dog..
            Manufactured narrative and out rage laser focused as a smoke screen for Barrys ME blunders and dhimmitude, IMO..
            Tail wag..wag
            Dog…wag..wag..
            Look at me not over there where the left is really messing up..

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnegxNEDAc

        • tomorrowclear

          What about God? Did you tell your kids that petitioning the Man in the Sky to take away problems or to give them things isn’t how the universe works? Did you tell them that “wishing things away” by appealing to the Almighty is childish?

          • robert108

            God is everywhere and in everything, even in you and all the rest of the ignorant, God-hating liberals. That’s the ultimate joke on you.

      • exsanguine

        Offensive, but true. putz. now go play in the freeway.

    • Emil Kashuntz

      Rick Berg loves the 47% he just doesn’t want them to have health care, social security, a living wage, or the tax breaks the rich get.

      • matthew_bosch

        So much subjectivity with you moral relativists. “living wage?”. What is the the meaning of the “living wage?” Who are the holy, enlightened ones who define a “living wage.” What group(s) are subject and not subject to this living wage and why are they subject or not subject to it. If those who not subject to the living wage happen protest, what do we do with them? Re-education, imprisonment, death? So much we must do now since establishing the “living wage.”

  • Davo

    “The latest is Mitt Romney’s controversial comments about the 47% of Americans who have no income tax burden. The narrative that has been manufactured is that this is insulting to that 47% because they pay local taxes, or something.”
    Don’t feed the troll.

    • mikemc1970

      OK, no food for you.

  • Dustin Gawrylow

    So, let me get this straight – Rick Berg walks willingly into the trap Heidi set to make Goldmark out to be his version of Bain Capital – but then disagrees with plain and simple numbers that have long been cited as a point for tax reform and at flatter tax code? Does that make any sense at all?

    • $8194357

      Nope

    • Roy_Bean

      Rick Berg is not a very good candidate, he doesn’t seem to understand attack politics and he doesn’t lie nearly as well as Heidi. The only thing that is really important here is that he will not vote for Dingy Harry for Senate Majority Leader. Heidi will.

  • HideFromObama

    Perfect example of GOP stupid. If a Dem said something that was labeled a “gaffe” or “offensive”, the party and all it’s players would circle the wagons. The GOP constantly starts shooting at each other-this is perfect case in point. When will they learn that this is exactly what the media and the left want to happen? Anyone remember Trent Lott? Because he said something about a retiring senator would have been a good president, and that retiring senator had made some racist remarks 50 yrs prior, he had to resign? And all the left had to do was bring it up and the right ran him out! STUPID

    • robert108

      There is a definite difference in the values and principles between Democrats and conservatives. That’s a good thing.

  • http://nofreelunch.areavoices.com/ Kevin Flanagan

    What one person pays in income taxes has no effect on what someone else does. The Obamites are pitting people against each other. The Chicago machine has a long history of doing this.

  • borborygmi

    Considering it is conservative tax structure in play I would think conservatives and Mitt would be happy. When he lumped the same 47% as being leeches expecting entitlements, without taking into consideration who those 47% were (especially since his father was on welfare in the beginning) he effed up.

    • robert108

      Actually, a “conservative” tax structure would be much lower, and much flatter, with less class warfare built in. The present tax structure is mainly left wing, with some modest input from a Republican.

      • Bat One

        Exactly! The problem with the current tax law is that it is too complex and too progressive. A single flat rate for all people and all income without all the deductions, exemptions, and credits is the only truly fair system of taxation.

        • borborygmi

          I agree wih you it is too complex. The congress put in however many deductions so you pay the least amount of tax, thus buying votes and employing a whole bunch of CPAs in one fell swoop. I would like to see two or three tier system with no deductions expemptions added in.

      • borborygmi

        Yet this is the same tax code that you said should be made permanent thus alleviating fears thus emboldening the small business owner to invest and hire, the same code that allows 47% to not pay taxes.

        • robert108

          When you can’t win, lie about what the other fellow said. Tax rates are never “permanent” under our Constitutional govt, but making them stable and not subject to electioneering and class warfare politics allows the investors to do what they do best: finance the next round of economic growth. obama’s stagnant economy is the result of lack of tax stability, as well as his general hostility to private sector profits.

  • Bobby

    We should tax medicare benefits as ordinary income.

    • robert108

      Typical liberal wants double taxation.

      • Bobby

        I don’t think you understand the value of the benefit relative to the modest tax you paid. Get your own insurance, you mooch. Pay your share, or are you just another 47%er? Commie.

        • robert108

          It’s still double taxation, no matter how much you dance and spin. Those who paid in for 50 years had no input about how much they paid or how the money was handled, so they are not to blame for the outcome. FDR lied, and our economy has died.

  • bigdaddybernie

    A graduated income tax ” IS ” reparations ! . . . It doesn’t matter what your definition of ” IS ” , is !

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