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Thursday, May 29, 2008

“Reverend” Michael Pfleger Rants at Obama’s Church (Strong language advisory)

If you have a strong stomach, James Taranto of Best of the Web Today, points to a video of a foul mouthed, mealy mouthed “preacher” who is a friend of Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright, invited to Obama’s church for some Hillary bashing, white bashing and from what I can tell, everything but preaching the Gospel!

I like the way he scrunches up his face when he’s talking about other white folk...possibly, according to the Bible, other persons for whom Christ died. He manages to look like he was weaned on a lemon!
The New York Times recounts a $100,000 earmark that Barack steered to this buffoon in sheep’s clothing. “You scratch my back, I’ll demonize Hillary!” seems to be the Go$pel he understands best!
Cross posted at Proof Positive

Michelle Malkin has a transcript of what was said here.
Goon links to a story about it on National Review Online here.

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When he first starts preaching he seems to be arguing against those who are against slave reparations because slavery was something perpetrated by our ancestors, not by us.  He says that unless you’re willing to throw away your trust fund and your retirement funds you can’t be against reparations because even though our ancestors perpetrated slavery, we modern whites benefited from it.

Which is an utter crock.  My ancestors never enslaved anyone.  At least not since the middle ages.  My ancestors were Scandinavian immigrants who settled in North Dakota around the turn of the last century.

So why should I have to give up my retirement that I paid into because some people I’m not even related to enslaved blacks centuries ago?

And to say that I benefited from slavery?  That I am successful because of slavery?  What an insulting thing to suggest.


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The guy would be an embarrassment on a street corner babbling to the passersby. The fact that this guy is an invited guest speaker is unbelievable!

The fact that a presidential candidate spent twenty years in a church where this is welcome, is more than a little bit scary!



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Proof on May 29, 2008 at 03:54 pm

Its not ‘Reverend’ Pfleger, its Father Pfleger.

Believe it or not, this guy is actually a catholic priest.

He has been a demagogue and an embarassment in Chicago for years, and so naturally Obama clings to him like he seems to cling to every other radical nutjob in the city.

Ken McCracken on May 29, 2008 at 04:16 pm
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Its not ‘Reverend’ Pfleger, its Father Pfleger.

I put “Reverend” in quotes for him the same as I do for Jeremiah Wright. I believe neither of them ought to be revered in the slightest!



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Proof on May 29, 2008 at 04:19 pm

That rhetoric is typical of those who advocate black liberation theology.


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robert108 on May 29, 2008 at 05:07 pm
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Just how many of these dimwit nut jobs does BO have tucked away? These are his people?

dm on May 29, 2008 at 05:36 pm
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I Think that this “father” is as wacked as Jeremiah is.This “Father” thinks he is a wigger when he speaks.Faith based people should be honest with themselves and others,about their racist views.

Ted Krogh on May 29, 2008 at 06:47 pm
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Another rant against whitey???

Hannitized on May 29, 2008 at 06:55 pm

These people are completely out of the mainstream.  Totally racist.


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Chief RZ on May 29, 2008 at 07:00 pm
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Of course the black racism claim is a weakened quite a bit when the criticisms are coming from a white person.

But, I’m just sayin.

Hannitized on May 29, 2008 at 07:24 pm

Whoa! That is SO Racist! What a sick group of people to feel the need to hear that kind of garbage!

Zsa Zsa on May 29, 2008 at 07:29 pm
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But, I’m just sayin.

To hear yourself talk! We know!



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Proof on May 29, 2008 at 07:33 pm
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BTW, Hannitized: Idiotic ideas are irrespective of race!



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Proof on May 29, 2008 at 07:34 pm
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The recent rantings of Frickin Pfleger makes me ashamed to belong to the Catholic Church.  Why has he not been sanctioned or booted out of the church?  These aren’t religious teachings he spouts. 
This is just another nutcase that Obama associates himself with.  BE WARNED, there are certainly more of these wackjobs in his closet.  By the way we have not heard from the self promoting, self centered, know-it-all Jesse Jackasson.  and the Obama closet door opens again…

B dE on May 30, 2008 at 03:20 am

The recent rantings of Frickin Pfleger makes me ashamed to belong to the Catholic Church.  Why has he not been sanctioned or booted out of the church?  These aren’t religious teachings he spouts. 
This is just another nutcase that Obama associates himself with.  BE WARNED, there are certainly more of these wackjobs in his closet.  By the way we have not heard from the self promoting, self centered, know-it-all Jesse Jackasson.  and the Obama closet door opens again…

None of this shit belongs in a house of worship. My church doesn’t spew that hate.


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goon on May 30, 2008 at 03:40 am

The Obamabots don’t see this as racist.

What else would one expect from a bunch of illiberal miscreants?

likwidshoe on May 30, 2008 at 04:09 am

Some say that not all Muslims are terrorists.  There are also many who (mis)use Christianity for their own gain.  The smart person must discriminate between the two positions.  There are many wolves in sheep’s clothing.


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Chief RZ on May 30, 2008 at 04:44 am

White entitlement? Huh?!?  So is he saying Obama is entitled to the presidency, because he is black? Obama has benefited from the “white system” also.
Harvard education on the affirmative action band wagon, Chicago politics and under the table graft, questionable real estate deals. Come on, get serious.

This church reminds me of some kind of TV show I would expect to see on the comedy channel. This isn’t religion, it is border line R rated entertainment.

You can chalk this up as yet another gaffe from the Obama fan club. These are his constituents. Imagine 4 years of this crud.

Mickey on May 30, 2008 at 05:53 am

Don’t forget that Obama’s ancestors owned slaves. So he is just as much at fault. I wonder if the dear “Father” will demand Obama give up his retirement?

paperboy05 on May 30, 2008 at 06:07 am
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Whoa! That is SO Racist!

It’s not racist if it has nothing to do with race.  Criticisms of white entitlement is just a reality.  Much like criticism of black racism isn’t racist.

You guys simply don’t understand what racism is.

Hannitized on May 30, 2008 at 09:47 am
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BTW, Hannitized: Idiotic ideas are irrespective of race!

Exactly.  Now maybe you will understand that you just supported my statement, you numbskull.

Is talking about blacks who think they are entitled to reparations racism simply because you criticize them for thinking they are entitled?

Don’t strain your brains thinking about that one you idiots.

Hannitized on May 30, 2008 at 09:50 am
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Marge on May 30, 2008 at 09:56 am
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You guys simply don’t understand what racism is.

More fatuous whining and false generalizations from a guy whose idiocy we never attributed to race!

numbskull… idiots

BTW, nice name calling! You’ve obviously run out of arguments, logical or no, a long time ago. Keep ranting! It makes you sound so...Hannitized!



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Proof on May 30, 2008 at 10:11 am

Now maybe you will understand that you just supported my statement, you numbskull.

True; only another numbskull would support any of your “statements”.


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robert108 on May 30, 2008 at 10:12 am

You guys simply don’t understand what racism is.

It’s judging someone by their perceived race.  It works irrespective of skin color.


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robert108 on May 30, 2008 at 10:13 am
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It’s judging someone by their perceived race.  It works irrespective of skin color.

Is saying black people who feel entitled to reparations racist, yes or no?

Don’t worry, I know you wont answer it because it would destroy your non-argument.

Hannitized on May 30, 2008 at 10:32 am
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It’s judging someone by their perceived race.

Judging, not identifying people who happen to do x, by their skin color.....yes.  Now maybe it will sink in.

Identifying crimes committed by white people, black people, brown people is not racist.  Is it?  No.

That is all this idiot did.

Again, you don’t know what racism is.

Hannitized on May 30, 2008 at 10:37 am

Identifying crimes committed by white people, black people, brown people is not racist. Is it? No.

Yes it is, if you attribute the criminal behavior to their perceived race.  Duh.

Actually, black liberation theology is by nature racist, since it judges people by their skin color.


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robert108 on May 30, 2008 at 10:45 am

Is saying black people who feel entitled to reparations racist, yes or no?

Absolutely, since it judges the “crime” and the “punishment” according to perceived race.

BTW, since some of Obama’s ancestors owned slaves, does that make him liable for your so-called “reparations”?  Or does his skin color trump everything else?  Pure racism.


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robert108 on May 30, 2008 at 10:47 am
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All religious people are nuts, nothing new here.

mygodyouredumb on May 30, 2008 at 01:14 pm

Well, now we are confronted by yet another Obama ‘spiritual advisor’...perhaps worse than Rev. Wright, if that’s possible.

Hannitized - who must be going through intense personal angst over yet another video revealed - will continue to defend the indefensible.

Liberation ‘theology’ is a man-made device, devoid of the message of Christ, “Love thy neighbor as thyself.”

It is steeped in rage and resentment and bears no resemblance to “And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive the trespasses of others.”

Just when the Wright rant was blowing over, along comes Father Pfleger. Obama truly has a serious problem here; a problem which will require much more than a mealy-mouthed “I’m disappointed” response.

Obama needs to clearly and unequivicably denounce Trinity Church ‘theology’ and LEAVE permanently!


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pparets on May 30, 2008 at 03:34 pm
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Yes it is, if you attribute the criminal behavior to their perceived race.  Duh

But it is not if you are simply discussing facts.  As the FBI does, the CIA and the police. 

The fact that some people refer to white entitlement to reflect a reality is not racist, it’s stating a reality.

Hannitized on May 30, 2008 at 07:32 pm
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Is saying black people who feel entitled to reparations racist, yes or no?

Absolutely, since it judges the “crime” and the “punishment” according to perceived race.

So then, when you say some black people feel entitled to reparations, you are being racist?  That was a dumb thing to say.

BTW, since some of Obama’s ancestors owned slaves, does that make him liable for your so-called “reparations”?  Or does his skin color trump everything else?  Pure racism.

By their standards yes.  Now what?

Hannitized on May 30, 2008 at 07:34 pm
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Hannitized - who must be going through intense personal angst over yet another video revealed - will continue to defend the indefensible.

pparets, now that you have put on your mind-reading helmet, can you tell me if the FBI is racist when they identify crimes that are committed by race?  What is your answer?  I am dying to see you face reality and then apologize to me.

Liberation ‘theology’ is a man-made device, devoid of the message of Christ, “Love thy neighbor as thyself.”

What we are discussing is the video in question, not your made up assertion of what you think they stand for.  That is a dirty trick to change the subject.

It is steeped in rage and resentment and bears no resemblance to “And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive the trespasses of others.”

Neither do lawsuits...but.  You are making little sense here pal.

Just when the Wright rant was blowing over, along comes Father Pfleger. Obama truly has a serious problem here; a problem which will require much more than a mealy-mouthed “I’m disappointed” response.

Obama needs to clearly and unequivicably denounce Trinity Church ‘theology’ and LEAVE permanently!

Or, he can talk about where they are wrong and work to change it.  That is what leaders do.  If I were him, I would address then and their failures.  You apparently would leave people in the dust to suffer their fate and save your own skin.  Why?

Hannitized on May 30, 2008 at 07:40 pm

The fact that some people refer to white entitlement to reflect a reality is not racist, it’s stating a reality.

Wrong.  It’s attributing behavior to perceived race. That’s racism.  Get help with your denial.


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robert108 on May 30, 2008 at 08:28 pm

So then, when you say some black people feel entitled to reparations, you are being racist? That was a dumb thing to say.

I didn’t say that, but if anyone thinks that their skin color entitles them to anything, that is racism.

It’s a basic definition; too bad you can’t seem to grasp it.  Judging by perceived race is racism.
Any judgment you make on the basis of perceived race is racism.  Get it?


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robert108 on May 30, 2008 at 09:43 pm

This church, that Obama and his family have been affiliated with for TWENTY YEARS is out of control. Hannitized, You can ignore it all you want and try to pass it on to White America. BUT it only makes you look more idiotic & guilty of racism yourself. The Dem party really needs to take a look at Obama before they choose this man as their Candidate for the President of the USA.

Zsa Zsa on May 31, 2008 at 03:49 am

ZZ: All too true.  In reality, Obama is “Mugabe-lite”.
A noxious brew of black separatism and Marxism.


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robert108 on May 31, 2008 at 05:31 am

Robert108, Truer words were never spoke. Mugabe and Obama could be on the same ticket! The Dems should be distancing themselves from this guy. BUT Obama seems to have the Dems hypnotized!

Zsa Zsa on May 31, 2008 at 10:03 am

Nutters crack me up.


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on May 31, 2008 at 10:07 am
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Nutters crack me up.

As do shiny objects!



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