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Thursday, April 24, 2008

Rev. Wright Says The Most Damaging Thing About Obama Yet

He says that Obama “says what he has to say as a politician.”

BILL MOYERS:

In the 20 years that you’ve been his pastor, have you ever heard him repeat any of your controversial statements as his opinion?

REVEREND WRIGHT:

No. No. No. Absolutely not.

I don’t talk to him about politics. And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.

Not a great thing to say about a guy who is trying to campaign on his authenticity.

Comments

I’m with O’Reilly here.  Rev. Wright’s appearance tomorrow on PBS with the execrably self-serving Bill Moyers can do nothing but further damage to Obama’s campaign, and given the exit polling data from Pennsylvania, it should be clear to any idiot that questions about Obama’s character and his past associations with devoutly radical leftists have only increased… particularly among middle class white voters.

The PA primary was closed… registered Democrats only.  If Obama can’t win the majority demographic among Democrats, the Clinton argument gets a whole lot more worthy of consideration.

Personally, I’m delighted.  But from an objective, political point of view, leaving Wright to run loose is somewhere between rookie dumb-ass and madness.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on April 24, 2008 at 12:25 pm

I don’t see why Obama doesn’t tell this guy to shut up already.  This looks like a rookie mistake to me.  Keep it up Wright, you are only helping us conservatives out.



A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

dougee on April 24, 2008 at 12:32 pm
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These two can’t get it right.

Mental masturbation and being abjectly stupid is not a good combo.

Eneils Bailey on April 24, 2008 at 01:22 pm

He is such an idiot!

Zsa Zsa on April 24, 2008 at 01:25 pm
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Calling either one of them an idiot is a mental classification neither could obtain.

Eneils Bailey on April 24, 2008 at 01:52 pm

EB, That was just a nice way of putting what I would Reeeeeally like to call him!

Zsa Zsa on April 24, 2008 at 02:24 pm

Rev. Wright’s appearance tomorrow on PBS with the execrably self-serving Bill Moyers can do nothing but further damage to Obama’s campaign

Bill Moyers is a political hack, notice that he didn’t let Fox news interview him.


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goon on April 24, 2008 at 03:38 pm

goon,

Moyers is indeed a political hack… and a self-righteous one too.  He is also a multi-millionaire compliments of Public Broadcasting and the US taxpayer via his privately owned production company which produces all his programs then sells them to PBS.  In essence, he is “livin’ large” at the expense of the very middle American taxpayers he excoriates.

Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on April 24, 2008 at 03:53 pm
goon on April 24, 2008 at 05:01 pm
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How many Rev. Wright anti-white, anti-America Nuremberg rallies does Obama have to sit through, before he notices there’s some kind of fanatical bigotry being purveyed?

larry on April 24, 2008 at 06:27 pm

Rev. Jeremiah Wright is scheduled to speak at the National Press Club on Monday.

These people are idiots, handing first Hillary Clinton and later John McCain and the Republicans a veritable boxcar full of ammunition.

If this is the caliber of organization and management of the Obama campaign, how much more ineptitude and latent stupidity can we expect from Obama trying to manage the US government?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on April 25, 2008 at 06:53 am

These people are idiots,

I agree! Even if the wrong “Rev.” Wright is on his best behavior and only sys innocuous things, it is a mistake for Obama to keep this turkey in the public eye, since the inevitable compare and contrast with what he said on DVD will simply keep the controversial statements alive long past the Denver convention.

Is he lying now? Or was he lying then?



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Proof on April 25, 2008 at 07:29 am
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So Rev. Wright thinks he understands and knows Obama better than others, better than Obama knows himself, apparently. These statements by Wright smugly and implicitly suggest that Obama is a smooth operator, a liar, who says what he thinks his audience wants to hear, not what he really feels.

I have my own understanding of Obama, who is, I think, at the very least an agnostic who does not have a genuine religious sentiment in the way Bush does. It is quite possible that Rev. Wright has read the measure of the man more deeply than he realizes. If Obama is dissimulating about his denunciation of Wright’s position, it is just as conceivable that he was dissimulating when he had chosen him and his church as his power base. He was an ambitious politician then, no less than he is now. If all politicians do is speak deceptively and appeal to their immediate audiences in the hope of gaining their trust, who is to know when a politician is sincerely expressing his true feelings and when he just says things that will please an audience?

Noga on April 25, 2008 at 02:43 pm

Rev. Jeremiah Wright is scheduled to speak at the National Press Club on Monday.

My first question would be why?


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goon on April 25, 2008 at 03:31 pm
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These statements by Wright smugly and implicitly suggest that Obama is a smooth operator, a liar, who says what he thinks his audience wants to hear, not what he really feels.

Thats what you heard, its not exactly what he said.

I would explain it to you, if I thought it would make a difference.  It wont.  So make up your mind and quit pretending this is a blog where open minded people discuss issues and possibilities.

Hannitized on April 25, 2008 at 03:46 pm

quit pretending this is a blog where open minded people discuss issues and possibilities.

Translation: Wah!



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Proof on April 25, 2008 at 03:54 pm

Please tell us one more time how you’re not going to waste you time debating us blah, blah, blah, like you’ve done every day for the last month!

Say some nasty, false things about Rob and it will be like old times!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on April 25, 2008 at 03:56 pm
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MOYERS:
Here is a man who came to see you 20 years ago.  Wanted to know about
the neighborhood.  Barack Obama was a skeptic when it came to religion.
He sought you out because he knew you knew about the community. You led
him to the faith. 

You performed his wedding ceremony.  You baptized his two children.  You
were, for 20 years, his spiritual counsel.  He has said that.  And, yet,
he, in that speech at Philadelphia, had to say some hard things about
you.  How did those words...how did it go down with you when you heard
Barack Obama say those things?

WRIGHT:
It went down very simply.  He’s a politician, I’m a pastor.  We speak to
two different audiences.  And he says what he has to say as a
politician.  I say what I have to say as a pastor.  But they’re two
different worlds.

I do what I do.  He does what politicians do.  So that what happened in
Philadelphia where he had to respond to the sound bytes, he responded as
a politician.

So if you have the ability to look at nuance, or have an open mind (and few people here do), you can see that he might as easily be suggesting that there is no issue here.  His job is to be a pastor and Obamas is politician.

Unless you think Wright is admitting he is a phony as a pastor, then you could argue that he is saying the same about Obama.

But it is sort of illogical to conclude that he is impugning his own character on national television.

ILLogical?  Yes.  Unreasonable?  Yes.  And this explains everything, does it not?

Hannitized on April 25, 2008 at 04:01 pm

That is it.  I am done with this site.  I am dead certain 80% of your pool is fucking retarded Ron.

Seriously, dude.....that is just fucking complete lunacy.  Go back to school, you lack basic reading comprehension skills.  It explains a lot though.
Hannitized on January 7, 2008 at 08:04 pm

Were you lying then, or are you lying now?



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Proof on April 25, 2008 at 04:20 pm
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Please tell us one more time how you’re not going to waste you time debating us blah, blah, blah, like you’ve done every day for the last month!

Im not debating...trust me.  I am merely providing the basic logic that is absent for those who are smart enough to not get misled.

Hannitized on April 25, 2008 at 04:22 pm

What kind of f’ing retard can’t find the door in three and a half months???



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Proof on April 25, 2008 at 04:25 pm

Were you lying then, or are you lying now?



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
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* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on April 25, 2008 at 04:27 pm

BTW, the “Ron” Hannie referred to, is actually “Rob”.

Hannitized has been gracing us with his same fine attention to detail ever since! (That’s sarcasm, Hannie boy!)



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on April 25, 2008 at 04:38 pm
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WRIGHT: It went down very simply.  He’s a politician, I’m a pastor.  We speak to two different audiences.  And he says what he has to say as a politician.  I say what I have to say as a pastor.  But they’re two different worlds.

Wright is a pastor much like Jim Jones was a pastor. In fact...their rhetoric is quite similar.

wing chun geologist on April 25, 2008 at 05:22 pm

Wright is a pastor much like Jim Jones was a pastor

And it’s fun to watch the liberals drink the same Kool-Aid®!



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on April 25, 2008 at 05:45 pm

Bat One


Moyers is indeed a political hack… and a self-righteous one too.  He is also a multi-millionaire compliments of Public Broadcasting and the US taxpayer via his privately owned production company which produces all his programs then sells them to PBS.  In essence, he is “livin’ large” at the expense of the very middle American taxpayers he excoriates.

Goon:End Socialism Vote Republican

I though you guys believed in the capitalistic, free enterprise system.

watashiwa on April 25, 2008 at 07:15 pm

watashiwa said: Moyers is indeed a political hack… and a self-righteous one too. He is also a multi-millionaire compliments of Public Broadcasting and the US taxpayer via his privately owned production company which produces all his programs then sells them to PBS.  In essence, he is “livin’ large” at the expense of the very middle American taxpayers he excoriates.

We are in agreement there…


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goon on April 25, 2008 at 07:39 pm

I though you guys believed in the capitalistic, free enterprise system.

watashiwa,

First, if you have a problem with properly affixing blockquotes, let me know and I can send you a private message explaining the procedure.  Doing so via PM will save you the embarrassment of being belittled in public here.

As for the free enterprise system, you may, conveniently, view Moyers accumulating substantial wealth at the sole expense of the American taxpayers as an example of free enterprise capitalism… liberals are always generous with their excuses for that which the rest of us regard as shameful, and shameless, behavior.  But it is also true that those of you on the Left were first and loudest in decrying Haliburton, Blackwater, and other single source DoD contractors.  Its not that we expect logical consistency from liberals.  We know better, of course.  But it would be nice to be surprised every once in awhile… surprised that you haven’t once again lived down to our lowest expectations.

There is a rational and compelling argument to be made for the tax dollars invested in national defense.  In an era of cable and satellite TV with literally hundreds and hundreds of channels, there is no such argument to be made in support of PBS, nor for that matter the execrable Bill Moyers.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on April 25, 2008 at 07:54 pm

Bat One,Yes I do have a problem with affixing quotes.
Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. And by the way I am not embarrassed at all. I consider the source.
President Eisenhower was very wary of the military industrial complex and history has proven him right.
The outrageous fraud that has been perpetrated on the American public in the name of national defense is nothing less than criminal. Yet conservatives seem to say that’s okay. Check your facts. See just how much is being spent on national defense in relationship to so-called social programs. Every American has a right to be angry when money earmarked to make us more secure is squandered on projects that have nothing to do with national defense. Do you feel good about lining the pockets of already wealthy corporations who cheat us out of what we are due when our tax dollars are given to them? A bigger question is why hasn’t congress done something about this? Maybe when we get around to call lobbying what it truly is (bribery), real changes can be made.

watashiwa on April 26, 2008 at 01:47 pm
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