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Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Republican Congressman Wants ISP’s To Keep Your Internet Surfing, Emailing Activity Indefinetly

What a stupid idea...

A bill introduced to the US House of Representatives would require ISPs to record all users’ surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.

The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records.

“A crime is still a crime, whether it occurs on the street or on the internet,” said Congressman Smith.

“In this age of increasing digital and technological sophistication, cyber-crimes and cyber-terrorism pose a serious threat to the US. Law enforcement and the private sector must be prepared to deal with these crimes.”

The bill includes a separate clause that would force the owners of sexually explicit websites to include warning labels on their web pages, or face jail.

There are several problems with this.

First, who is going to bear the cost of storing all this data?  Every email?  Every instant message?  Every visited website?  That adds up to a tremendous amount of data to be stored by an internet service provider.  Indefinitely too, and the cost of it all will be paid ultimately by we, the ISP’s customers.  In order to remain profitable the ISP will have to transfer that expense to customers.

Second, is this even really necessary?  Is law enforcement having a hard time gathering evidence of internet crimes currently?  I don’t think they are.  It seems to me that if law enforcement suspects some sort of crime happening involving a particular IP they can then request that the IP start saving records pertinent to the user in question.  Which is what I believe law enforcement is doing already.

And what about privacy?  Are not our emails and IM’s worthy of the same sort of privacy protections our physical mail and telephone conversations are?  It seems to me as though asking ISP’s to keep a copy of all our emails is tantamount to the U.S. post office keeping a copy of all of our mail.

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It seems to me as though asking ISP’s to keep a copy of all our emails is tantamount to the U.S. post office keeping a copy of all of our mail.

Spot on.  This would be a massive invasion of our privacy.  Republicans need to throw this jerk off of the bus.  I’m sure the Democrats will be willing to help.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on February 14, 2007 at 10:17 am

More specifically that information should only be kept under a warrant for a specific person.  Like any warrant probable cause is needed.

Obviously communication going to a person out of the country is in a different category.

Keeping any domestic information without a warrant should be illegal.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on February 14, 2007 at 10:23 am
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with the global war going on this should happen for everyones security. if your not doing anything wrong what is the matter? not only that everyone should contribute with their loss of freedom aswell as their cash.

gavin brown on February 14, 2007 at 11:17 am

Ja wohl! Herr Brown! (Nice shirt!)



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Proof on February 14, 2007 at 11:24 am

This idea requires terrabytes of storage space.

The cost of internet would skyrocket, the whole thing is stupid and not possible from a cost standpoint.

freerepublicans.com on February 14, 2007 at 11:24 am

Sorry Gavin, if communications are going on between suspected terrorists and people in the U.S.; for our security I approve, as I did with the Bush wiretaps and call pattern monitoring programs. However, as The Whistler, an anti-Gomerite said, for domestic cases only with a warrant and the government should not be able to force private businesses to keep records of anyones private communications or release those they have absent a warrant and probable cause. Will some pervert or terrorist slip through the cracks? Maybe! But, with some noted exceptions I believe in the right to privacy in our communications isd paramount.


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Neiman on February 14, 2007 at 11:31 am
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I think the good Rep should remember the #1 rule to new business: Start off small.

Why not start by recording all of his and his staffers computers and posting those logs on the web for oversite. If he can hold that down for the length of his term then maybe, we’ll talk about it.

Dork.

Rob B. on February 14, 2007 at 02:46 pm
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This is could be a big money making scheme if they would sell the info collected back to the users. Wouldn’t you want to know what sites you were frequent 10 years ago?

ISP Survey

Mark Tomin on February 19, 2007 at 05:29 pm
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Interesting article. I agree with the author on this one.  I dont want the govt to know the privacy of the sites i go on.  thats just insane!  http://showmethebroadband.com

john on October 28, 2007 at 09:53 pm
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