Congress' approval at 11%–As we listen and watch the Pelosi Dems I am surprised the approval is above zero. Well, there is always Move-on. org–must be some people there that love good-ole Pete and Nancy.

"…They sure don't care about finding $200 billion to fight the illegal war in Iraq."

You know this is really starting to piss me off. Why doesn't some Republican file a lawsuit alleging that the Iraq way is illegal so that the courts can state, unequivocally, that th ewar is in fact completely legal?

More tin foil wearing morons from the left. 11% approval rating, this is exhibit "A".

EWS48: Where were your tears when Saddam and his two insane sons were raping, torturing and murdering innocent Iraqi's (men, women and Children)?

contrived (not natural or unrealistic) genocide

If it is unnatiral and/or unrealistic doesn't that mean it really is not genocide at all, rather just an idea you have constructed in your own mind? If it is contrived (unconvincing) it is not real!

What genocide (the systematic killing of all the people from a national, ethnic, or religious group, or an attempt to do this) are you referring to?

Why is the war illegal?

When you make reckless, idiotic charges like this and refer to this being an illegal war, you either need to present specific objective documentary data to support your claims or suffer being marginalized as an extreme Left Wing ideologue of very low or of lazy intellect.

Pete Stark is a senile old man trying to resuurect his marvelous days in the Sixties of fighting the civil rights battles and against the Vietnam War. No one and I mean no one taks him seriously!

You think you're being patriotic by supporting this contrived genocide but you are helping Bush destroy your country and murder your children.

When I see "your country" used, I ignore it. I care no more about foreigners opinions of my country anymore than I expect them to care about my opinion of theirs. Which begs the question, why the hell are so many foreigners trying to get into this country if it's so evil?

When I see "your country" used, I ignore it. I care no more about foreigners opinions of my country anymore than I expect them to care about my opinion of theirs. Which begs the question, why the hell are so many foreigners trying to get into this country if it's so evil?

It can't be because their countries are such great places to live…

I've never believed the stories about Bush blending puppies.

This is going to be a short post and mostly directed at a comment or post made earlier today. Uh, to all of you who think the war is legal I urge you, no implore you, to look up the law on how and when a "war" can take place. I believe if you do you will no longer post uninformed (to be PC about it) statements. Iraq is not a war and the fact that Bush has turned it into a war by usurping our military, our federal budget and our taxes to conduct it makes it an illegal war. The only way a war can be legal is to have it declared by Congress. So for the sake of all American's stop posting comments about policies and laws you know nothing about.

Camille what exact law are you talking about?

Are you taking any prescription medications?

BTW: Since you disagree with this one you surely are on record as disagreeing with the Bosnian campaign where Clinton bombed people without *UN approval* and without *the US Congress's approval*.

But don't worry about it, we don't expect consistency from you folks.

They approved the President to use force to go after those people who attacked us.

Since you don't know this, no country attacked us; it was the Islamic terrorists, and the President was authorized to attack them wherever they are, which includes Iraq. We actually got a twofer, since we are killing Islamofascists there, and have also freed a formerly oppressed people to determine their own future. Thought you lefties loved that sort of stuff; you know, freeing oppressed people?

For pity-sake people…Congress did not approve the war!!! They approved the President to use force to go after those people who attacked us. THAT WAS NOT IRAQ in case you still didn't know that. So think before you speak people please!! You're making America look even dimmer than the world thinks we are!!!

CamilleJ, you must be part of the Moveon.org or talking points memo crowd. I am not sure you can even believe this crazy spin your are putting out there.

I wonder if Stark understood that he was stating the simple truth.
Bush and Cheney want war for the sake of war.
War is their only agenda. They want permanent war and they've said so publicly.
Permanent war = suicide.
Bush and Cheney's agenda is destruction — the destruction of civilization, the destruction of everything. Look at what they've done to Iraq and are insisting on continuing to do indefinitely.
They want to do the same to the US. Just look at the military, science, the environment, the increase in American suffering since they took office.
That's their agenda. And they're good at it.
What do you think will happen if and when they attack Iran?
And all you guys and galls fuming because billions are going to social programs, but you don't mind Bush throwing it down the rathole to destroy civilization.

I wonder if Stark understood that he was speaking to simple minds? The ones that didn't understand that Fortney Peterless Stark had to apologize for his over the top moonbattery…

Barrie Machin:

Over one million Iraqis killed See John Hopkins medical centre a very reputed source

HAHAHAHAHAH!!! Very reputed source?

Think you're leaking what you really think there, bud. You probably meant "reputable", but "reputed" fits perfect.

You'd have to be a complete idiot to believe that crap. For a rebuttal see any episode of "Reality, Your Existence", or if not that, then IraqBodyCount.org. They provide nice reality checks of this Lancet crap for anybody who has difficulty figuring out the obvious for themselves….

Garrick and DocDave: You are both wasting your time, there are far too many liberals out there that have a casual disregard for the facts/truth. They prefer emotionally charged, wild accusations as they know their fellow liberal travelers will swallow these lies whole and then repeat them; and when repeated often enough these lies, to a very large number of people on the Left, become absolute gospel truth, unassailable facts.

The hatred for Bush and the lies about him are staggering to behold, not that I am thrilled about many aspects of his presidency; but the level of lies and hatred about Bush are mind boggling. I heard today where Diane Feinstein, while traveling with Bush to the California wild fires last week was stunned to learn of Bush's vast, in-depth knowledge of world affairs, his depth of understanding, his rational views of world affairs and that he was actually a nice guy. Until then, only what the liberal media and fellow Leftist idealogues said about Bush mattered, but truth is a funny damn thing, when confronted with the facts and an open mind, it can shake a person to the core realizing how wrong they can be about an issue or person.

Just to simplify Carrick's statements a bit, we should always seek to make decisions based on fact. As citizens, we all have a small bit of say in our foreign policy, so where we stand on that policy is an important decision. Troop casualties are an important factor to consider, and thus should be factual.

When you find that you're afraid of the facts because they're inconvenient for your opinions, it may be time to reconsider your opinions.