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Friday, January 18, 2008


Rasmussen Poll: Fred Thompson Tops On Illegal Immigration, McCain Comes In Last

That last bit isn’t particularly surprising given McCain’s abandonment of the conservative base in favor of a compromise with Ted Kennedy of all people on amnesty.

(January 18) The day before South Carolina’s Republican Primary, the Rasmussen Poll of the state shows the frontrunners as McCain (24%), Huckabee (24%), Romney (18%) and Thompson (16%). Of the four, according to NumbersUSA President Roy Beck’s Presidential Grid that rates each candidate in 16 immigration categories, Fred Thompson scores the highest. And Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) scores the lowest overall. The ratings are based on how well a candidate’s immigration stances would protect American workers, taxpayers, communities, infrastructure, individual freedom and the environment.

Also, activist/columnist/pundit Melanie Morgan from Move America Forward has endorsed Thompson today as well:

Folks, it comes down to this basic premise:

The former Tennessee senator represents the best hope not just for Republicans and conservatives, but, most importantly, the best hope for America.

As a conservative Republican, I’ve endured more than my fair share of elections where I was told to hold my nose and vote for the lesser of evils.

That rankles me.

But in this presidential election we have the chance to vote for a man who represents an ideal package: a fiscal conservative, a social conservative and a conservative on national security issues. None of the other presidential candidates are as consistently conservative on the array of issues facing this nation as Fred Thompson is. It is fun, though, watching as they all try to reinvent themselves in some kind of election year extreme makeover.

What I admire most about Fred Thompson is that he doesn’t apologize for his conservatism.

The “hold your nose” line resonates with me, and I think it resonates with a lot of other voters too.  The sheer diversity in Republican candidates this election - from the Buchananite Ron Paul to the possible independent run by country club Republican Michael Bloomberg - it’s clear that the GOP base isn’t just looking to win this election, but win with someone they don’t have to make a lot of excuses for.

That’s how I feel about Thompson.

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2Hotel9 on January 18, 2008 at 11:46 am
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Isn’t Melanie Morgan the racist who called Obama a “Halfrican”?

If there was any justice in the world that endorsement would hurt him.

BTW it is Roe, not Row.  Jane Roe is the equivalent of John Doe for anonymous women.

Hawk on January 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm

I think the was discussing illegal immigration tactics: “Should we row or should we wade?”

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Zsa Zsa on January 18, 2008 at 01:50 pm

Hawk:

Isn’t Melanie Morgan the racist who called Obama a “Halfrican”?

You mean that wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

In any case,  why do you think it’s racist?  I have a mixed grand daughter so please don’‘t start with the vacuous holier-than-though crap.  Seriously, since when is hafrican a racist term.  You didn’t know it was street language?

Carrick on January 18, 2008 at 02:51 pm
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In any case, why do you think it’s racist?  I have a mixed grand daughter so please don’’t start with the vacuous holier-than-though crap.  Seriously, since when is hafrican a racist term.  You didn’t know it was street language?

Why not just call him Oreo.

Maybe it isn’t racst when used by someone of mixed race, but Melanie was using the term to point out that he doesn’t have credibility in the African American community.  He isn’t descended from slaves so I guess he isn’t really African American.  She doesn’t point out that maybe his ancestors were taken from Africa to be slaves.  It was a racist comment.

Lestat on January 18, 2008 at 07:44 pm

Garrick:
Boy oh boy people love to throw that racist label around, don’t they. Why? To them it ends the conversation, they win, because you are by their own definition a racist.

My best buddy is my half-black grandson, we will spend all day together tommorrow. I also have other blacks, hispanics, Native Americans and Asians in my immediate family. Halfrican is descriptive of someone being of mixed black blood and the blood of non-black races. That’s all!

I know Melanie, she is no racist and I’ll defend her use of the term in the context I described. Lastly, this nonsense about “maybe his ancestors were taken from Africa to be slaves.” So, freaking what? That was a hell of along time ago and those using that crap never mention the huge role Africans played in the slave trade, selling their own for filthy lucre. Get over it! If you cannot make it as a black, African-American or whatever label they choose to use in todays’s world, it is because you’ve been sold a bill of goods (lies) by Demorats that you are not as god as white people and cannot make it without their preferences and charity. That is nonsense!


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Neiman on January 18, 2008 at 08:00 pm

Lestat:

Maybe it isn’t racst when used by someone of mixed race

That’s pretty sloppily thought out.  It’s not who says something that makes a word racist, it’s the context.

Simply because a white person says “hafrican” (which is just a fun play on words for a person of mixed lineage) doesn’t make it racist.  Really my only point. 

, but Melanie was using the term to point out that he doesn’t have credibility in the African American community. 

How does it point out that he “doesn’t have credibility”?  Whoever he didn’t have credibility with that community?

I don’t have any bone in the fight over whether Melanie Morgan is a racist.  But simply using street lingo doesn’t make her one..

Carrick on January 18, 2008 at 08:07 pm
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That’s pretty sloppily thought out.  It’s not who says something that makes a word racist, it’s the context.

No shit.  Who says it is part of the context. 

How does it point out that he “doesn’t have credibility”?  Whoever he didn’t have credibility with that community?

Read the transcript of when she said it and how it was used in the conversation.

Lestat on January 18, 2008 at 08:37 pm
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Here is the conversation:

MORGAN: Senator Obama, who is, as you call, a ‘Halfrican’—

SUSSMAN: Halfrican and, again, his father was—his father was from Kenya, his mother’s white. OK, now, I have nothing with mixed—nothing against mixed-race people but, my point is, when this guy stands in front of a black audience, pretending like he was born and raised in the hood, and he can identify with their problems, he doesn’t allow—he is not, in my opinion—‘cause my opinion is your average white guy—he is not allowed to wear the African-American badge because his family are not the descendants of slaves, OK? He can’t identify with the discrimination and the slavery and all of that that’s gone into these black families for generations; he’s a kid who was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth in a white family in Hawaii, OK? You wanna call me names for saying this? Go right ahead. I’m just telling you what the guy is.

MORGAN: Well—

TOM BENNER (aka “Officer Vic,” KSFO morning traffic reporter): And you’re not making this up. I mean, it’s documented, for goodness sake. You can look it up.

SUSSMAN: I’m not making this up, so I just—I get offended and I know I have many black friends who get offended when he stands in front of that black audience talking like he’s from the hood, born and raised, and I can—can identify with all of their issues. He can’t!

MORGAN: Well, and guess what? It’s working. It’s working big-time.

This Sussman idiot is saying he isn’t African American enough to relate.  Because he isn’t descended from slaves he can’t understand discrimination.  Both of them are racist.

Lestat on January 18, 2008 at 08:42 pm

This Sussman idiot is saying he isn’t African American enough to relate.  Because he isn’t descended from slaves he can’t understand discrimination.  Both of them are racist.

That is twisting the facts! Being half black/Arab and white and not raised in tenements and black ghettos of America or having relatives that were directly descended from slaves with those emotional scars, there is no way he can truly, fully understand or relate to that experience and if he suggests he does, considering his background, he is wrong and he is knowingly using his own skin color and partial black racial identity to imply something for purely political purposes that isn’t factual.

You have a right to interpret those remarks as you choose and even use the charged label of racist for your own purposes if you choose, but it is an attempt to twist the facts to fit your emotional reaction to the statements and/or your partisan beliefs and not true at all in my opinion. I have listened to Melanie, Officer Vic and Brain Sussman daily for years and they are not racists.


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Neiman on January 18, 2008 at 08:57 pm
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Isn’t Melanie Morgan the racist who called Obama a “Halfrican”?

Here is the conversation:

  MORGAN (to Sussman): Senator Obama, who is, as you call, a ‘Halfrican’

So, she quotes someone else who uses the term and asks him for an explanation of why he used it and that makes her a racist? Puh-leeease!
Isn’t Hawk a race baiter who goes off half cocked without getting his facts straight?


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