She was spot on with this issue and the other issues she called him out on.

I honestly don’t think it matters what he did as long as he voted against the bill. Now, my only caveat would be… did he vote against similar bills when Bush was President?

If he isn’t voting against the bills, that’s the problem and he should be derided for every one of his Yes votes.

I agree with you Rob that he shouldn’t be bragging about the spending. We are broke. But that’s NOT what Maddow was talking about. Basically, Maddow said that if you vote against a bill, you’re against every single thing in the bill. And that’s BS.

As usual, you’re only looking at one side of the issue. The real problem is the greedy Obama govt; “as long as I get to take mine from the achievers, to use for vote-buying purposes.”

Seriously, I have heard this from several of the liberal posters here.

First, things were going very well for most of the time Bush was president. After the short recession he had coming in and the attacks on 9/11 there was real financial problems in this country. Lots of people laid off and lots of productivity lost.

Until his last year in office, there was less than 5% unemployment and the deficit was getting smaller not larger. Tax revenues were very good.

Until the collapse of the housing sector which infiltrated every other economic sector, things were going pretty well. What is happening now, the huge deficits at every level is a direct result of the loss of revenues from middle class America in the form of property, income and sales taxes.

None of this is a result of the Bush tax cuts, but when those cuts expire next year, you will see an even larger loss of revenue, since that tax bite will take money from people that they would have normally spent on other things including luxuries and goods and services that provide millions of Americans with jobs. If you can’t see that the more people who work, the more tax revenues come into the coffers at every level, then you are not seeing the economic landscape through the lens of reality.

If you are going to cite studies that supposedly support your premise, you should post the link to those studies, where and when they were conducted and by whom.

I’m can’t believe it, but I’m actually going to defend this Republican. Why can’t he be for certain things in the bill but against the overall bill? I don’t think the federal government should be giving out any grants, but obviously he does. Since that grant being in there STILL didn’t make the overall bill good enough for him to support, he voted against it.

To be clear, I don’t support the grant. I don’t support the stimulus. But it seems perfectly reasonable to vote against a bill that is more bad than good but yet still be able to praise the good stuff that did pass.

We tried to reject this political payoff in South Carolina, but were forced to take most of it.

This must stop.

I said this in another thread, and I’ll repeat it here:

“Why aren’t the tax cuts working anymore? It’s almost like you guys are suggesting that what the current Congress is doing matters more than something that happened 7 years ago!”

Yea, when put like that it does sound a little foolish.

Well, I see where brenario is coming from though. If the bill had lowered taxes, thus stimulating growth, that would be laudable, even if the rest of the bill sucked.

Schock didn’t vote against it on principle. He voted against it in unison with his party. That isn’t principled.

she is such a hack anyways.

Especially when she stated that the tax cuts were the least stimulative part of the stimulus bill as if it were a fact, then went on as to disallow discussion on that statement.

Interjecting opinions as facts is not journalism.

Sherri, please tell me how tax increases will stimulate the private sector.

What does that make Hennen. He was all nicey nicey on wind energy today, he runs ads for a plumbing and heating business that touts energy conservation rebates from the feds, and he has accepted tax breaks/ rebates for fixing up the old building which is the Flag under downtown development.

I’m not terribly impressed by his record, but he hardly seems to be a rabid partisan.

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=33428&type=category&category=10&go.x=14&go.y=12

He’s voted Yes on some pretty liberal heavy bills, like the blatantly unconstitutional and ex post facto 90% tax on executive bonuses.

In short, you know nothing about the man and are just assuming he’s a party line guy…with absolutely no evidence.

Not having any input on the stimulus bill by Republicans is total bull. That is what the debate on the House floor is for. If they had no input it is because they didn’t offer it up for debate. That doesn’t mean their amendments will be voted into the bill, but they get debated. A lot of Republicans who voted against these bills requested their money privately in letters to the granting agencies rather than putting their requests in the bill itself. Those requests are not public unless requested under FOIA.

There is a huge disconnect between a Congressman or Senator voting against a bill then taking credit for bringing the money to their districts and a private citizen receiving a $300 Bush tax cut. Citizens didn’t get a vote on that tax cut. We were sent checks or the money was applied to any IRS outstanding balances. We had no choice but to take the money. It was voted on by our Representatives and Senators who approved it. Dems didn’t run from their responsibility of voting for that tax cut either.

It wasn’t a zinger against Maddow at all. It was a desperate cheap shot by Schock. Seriously, he couldn’t come up with a real defense of his argument for how he voted v how he’s taken credit for stimulus money in his district? Maddow was asking about his public voting record v his public actions as a Representative. He got personal with someone who out-debated him easily. You may notice she didn’t take the bait. Why? She knows where the lines in a public debate are drawn.

Once again Rob is the only one that keeps to his principles. Everyone else eating out of the trough. “as long as i get mine, as long as i get mine, as long as i get mine.

The disconnect comes when he holds up the big check and says gosh folks look what I did.