Putin: Bush Tricked Me Into Invading Georgia To Help McCain Beat Obama

It sounds nutty, sure, but you know this will end up in a DNC press release sooner or later.

MOSCOW – Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin accused the United States on Thursday of instigating the fighting in Georgia and said he suspects a connection to the U.S. presidential campaign — a contention the White House dismissed as “patently false.”
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Putin, the former president and architect of an assertive foreign policy that has stoked East-West tension, suggested in an interview with CNN that there was an American presence amid the combat with a potential domestic U.S. political motive.
“We have serious grounds to think that there were U.S. citizens right in the combat zone” during Russia’s war with the U.S.-allied ex-Soviet republic, he said the interview broadcast on state-run Russian television. “And if that’s so, if that is confirmed, it’s very bad. It’s very dangerous.”

I think Putin is the one playing the game here. Does the US have close ties to Georgia? Yes. Has the US been instrumental in modernizing and backing Georgia’s military? Yes. But did the United States instruct Georgia to use such blunt force against separatists in the areas Russia now wants to be independent? Absolutely not. That was Georgia’s call as a sovereign nation, and Putin’s attempt to lay the blame with President Bush is simply a feint to cover his own country’s aggression in this matter.
A feint that smells suspiciously Soviet. Remember when the Soviets would back rebels and invade countries all over the world and then claim they were just opposing American imperialism? Well we’re back to that again.
The truth is that the Georgian government has not handled the situation in Ossetia well. Their approach has been ham handed, and overly forceful, to put it mildly. But be that as it may, it did not justify Russia’s response. And let’s not kid ourselves. Russia is using Ossetia as a pretext to reestablish parts of the old Soviet empire.
For all the condemnation of America’s invasion of Iraq, let’s not forget that our invasion came as no surprise to the world. President Bush gave Iraq terms to meet to avoid war. Saddam Hussein himself was given ultimatums and alternatives. A case for the war was made before the United Nations itself. And while ultimately Bush bucked popular international opinion and went ahead and invaded Iraq at least there was an attempt at diplomacy.
Russia just rolled tanks into Ossetia and started killing people, both soldiers and civilians alike.

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  • 2Hotel9

    Putin got this from Democrat blogs. Hell, you or Proof posted about it earlier this week.

  • http://www.thedailyslant.com/ Hairy Polemic

    But did the United States instruct Georgia to use such blunt force against separatists in the areas Russia now wants to be independent?

    It would be nice if the media (including "small" blogs) updated their knowledge of just what happened in Georgia (this was actually linked on SAB last week) so that they would stop furthering Russian misinformation.

  • Yelena

    Dear author,

    It would be realy nice of you if sometimes you would look into chronology of the events.

    Russia rolled tanks into Georgia, after georgian president bombed city in the South Ossetia at August 7-8, 2008.

    Please, do not fake respectable readers.
    Just for one little reason would be nice to do so: faking the facts about the war "smells" so much like a propaganda.

    Best regards,
    Yelena.

  • http://www.thedailyslant.com/ Hairy Polemic

    Yelena,

    The peace agreement prior to August 7 forbid shelling with guns bigger than 80mm. On August 6, Ossetians took civilians out of their villages and began shelling Georgian troops with 120mm guns. That broke the agreement (and therefore started the war). Why take civilians out of your villages one day before Georgia was to make the supposed first strike?

    Good chronology?

  • Yelena

    Hi, Hairy Polemic.

    I'm still reading info provided by you (link in your previous comment).

    There is the thing. In that region the tensions started not yesterday and not the year ago. And not even in the Soviet Union period, but way before that.

    I'm very sceptical about that it was the very first time when the agreement was broken by either of the parties.
    And I'm not trying to defend any of who were involved in that stupid conflict.

    What I'm sure about is that the regional politicians are receiving a heck of a lot of the media to promote their local governtmental policies. What I'm sure about is that a certain number of innocent people died. And what I'm sure about is that a lot of misleading information is being posted on the internet by both parties.
    To tell, that somebody can have any really independant opinion on the conflict, sorry, but "childish".
    Perhaps the situation looks very much like the "domino effect": Georgia punished separatists regions, Russia punished Georgia and the States punished Russia. Now what? Tensions between Russia and the West are building up. How good is this? And most important for whom? I doubt that the biggest wish of the people in any country to became "bi-polar" again like in the time of the Soviets.
    In my humble opinion to resolve this issue both the parties should go to the international court with the all evidence that they have about the conflict and let the court make the decision, instead of pointing at each other without ending and involving more and more countries in their "dirty laundry".
    I really would like to see if the both parties (and not the only georgian side) would have the American lawyers (they are the real sharks):). Or the lawyers from any other coutries, but not their own. I'm pretty sure it would be much more entertaining than writing and reading the "facts" which so far nobody could confirm.

    Best regards,
    Yelena.

    p.s.:Dear comrad Putin, it is the time for you to relax in your summer house. Pay the lawyers and they will perform.

  • docdave

    In my humble opinion to resolve this issue both the parties should go to the international court with the all evidence that they have about the conflict and let the court make the decision,

    It would have been nice if Russia had followed your advice before invading Georgia but they didn't. It's a little late (understatement) to appeal to the courts once shots have been fired.

    It's pretty obvious even to the none historical uninformed (which is you and Hairy) that Putin has strong desires to resurrect the Soviet empire and without opposition from the USA you can bet the farm that will happen.

    You want the true story of Georgia and Russias intentions, ask the Polish, the Czech, the Ukraines and any other nation that suffered through 50 years of Russian tyranny.

  • http://www.thedailyslant.com/ Hairy Polemic

    Yelena,

    You make a very good point, particularly about the difficulty of ascertaining the real "facts," but I think that you base your argument on one, very significant and, what is in my opinion, a very incorrect assumption: That Putin wants to end the conflict (which, of course, also assumes that he didn't start it).

    There is the thing. In that region the tensions started not yesterday and not the year ago. And not even in the Soviet Union period, but way before that.

    That is correct. And knowing from personal experience how Russia likes to use ancient ethnic tensions to manipulate disorder in its satellites (remember Azerbaijan and Armenia), it would not be illogical to assume, at least initially, that Russia is up to its old tricks. If we don't assume this, then we are left to resolve the logic behind a weak, tiny country like Georgia starting conflict with a giant like Russia. The latter doesn't make much sense.

    Tensions between Russia and the West are building up. How good is this? And most important for whom?

    Two questions:

    1. What happens to the price of oil when world tensions build up?

    2. Other than the middle-east, who makes the most profits from oil export? (Hint: What is Russia's economy currently almost entirely based on?)

    In my humble opinion to resolve this issue both the parties should go to the international court with the all evidence that they have about the conflict and let the court make the decision, instead of pointing at each other without ending and involving more and more countries in their "dirty laundry".

    I think that's a bit "childish" for two reasons. One, two world powers never have and never will respect the decision of an international court. That's like parent's asking their kids to make major decisions for them. Two, you once again assume that Russia wants to end the conflict.

    I suppose that time will tell whether any of the above bears credence. The nice thing about misinformation is that it tends to have a short life-span.

  • 2Hotel9

    Yelena, the chronology you speak of is not in favor of the "innocent Russians" scenario you are attempting to portray. Russia has been actively working to exacerbate ethnic divisions among the peoples of the former slave states since the collapse of the communist empire. And for several hundred years prior to that, also. Russia as "poor innocent victim" is comical at best, and cynical, disingenuous propaganda on its very face.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Tetya Yelena,

    Of course you will have heard only that which Putin wants you to hear. Dead people tell no tales and reporters who are getting shot at quickly learn not to run toward the sound of guns.

    We know that entire region has had conflict for ages. Putin knows this, helps instigate and foment these conflicts when they accrue to his advantage, such as here, and brutally suppresses them, as he has so many times before, when they do not.

    Putin has been not only acting very aggressively in invading Georgia, he has seized warm water ports which Russia has wanted for some time, along with gaining an all-important buffer zone between Russia and the West.

    He has made very warlike statements, threatening, not diplomatic, not economic, but military action should Poland install defensive missiles or Ukraine be admitted to Nato. These threats include one of the largest missiles in the Russian inventory, the TOPOL.

    If anyone wants war, if anyone is threatening war, it is Putin.

    What can YOU do to stop HIM?

    My guess is, very little.

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