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These students fail themselves.  They choose not to study, to engage in dangerous sexual activity, to use and sell drugs, to rape girls in school, bring drugs and alcohol to school and in general disturb classes.  I saw most of this first hand.  It has only gotten worse in the last ten years.  It is their own fault.
Don’t give me that garbage about “poor school districts” In our state those “poor” districts receive more money per pupil that the “rich” ones.  Washington, D. C. has the highest per pupil cost in the nation and is on the bottom for achievement and graduation rates.  You can not make someone study.  Only loving parents (with an S) can!

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Chief RZ , you’re right on the mark when it comes to what you said. It used to be if a student disrupted class or didn’t do the required work we just kicked them out. Now the “law” says they have a civil right to attend class and if they don’t do the required work then give them work they can “handle”.
What ever happened to standard grade knowledge or subordination.
As soon as society gave more rights to the student than the teacher, I left the public school system.

Anna.  Thanks for the reply.  Did you leave as a teacher or student?  There have been some alternative schools set up, but that has not helped that much.  Yes, the disruptive ones should be kicked out.  In our state, a ‘hbc’ has a policy of not ‘failing’ anyone during their first two years!  What a farce.  Then they want to be recognized as having completed a college degree.  NOT.

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I think swats should make a come back… The kids might think twice before they smarted off to the teachers??? I know we did. My brother got swats alot! I never did.

I think the problems in the inner cities are so intense that many of those kids aren’t going to escape.

On the other hand school vouchers will give more kids a chance to escape so their worth doing. 

Sure a lot of the kids don’t want to succeed academically and that’s their fault. But if you have kids that can’t learn because of the disruptive students it’s the fault of the school system and ultimately the fault of the teachers’ unions who won’t let vouchers become a reality.

School should be for people who want to learn.  If kids are there disrupting other kids education they should be expelled.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

I taught 8th and 9th grade in public school but when the ACLU threatened to take action against the Supt and Principle I knew teaching would never be the same again. They basically announced that the school could no longer force a student to go against his own will. It didn’t take long for students to realize what that meant and so the Supt., Principle, 2 teachers and I left at the end of the year.
It still makes me sad to know I am not there for the ones that want to learn and even worse I am not there to reach the ones that only temporarily thought they didn’t want to learn. Majority of students are reachable but they will not achieve if it’s not expected of them.

the ACLU are my homeboys.

that bias is merely republican. libertarians don’t have quite as much hate for them.

I taught 8th and 9th grade in public school....

I thought you said you are a medic Anna!

So, with a Bachelor’s degree already in your hip pocket, you left the public school system, took an EMT course at a community college and became a medic?

You went from $46,597 per year to $32,000 per year just on principle?

All who have meditated on the art of governing mankind have been convinced that the fate of empires depends on the education of youth. —Aristotle ...

Having taught for 31 years, across four cultures,and in two different countries, it all comes down to values - what the culture values, what the parents value, and what the child values.  Those values are guided by what is expected vs. what is accepted and exhibited in observable actions and behavior.  Politicians, who are sworn to uphold the principles of the Constitution which outlines a representative democracy, conduct themselves like oligarchisits. Parents, who are supposed to teach their children to be responsible citizens,are more concerned about what is done to their children. Children are too busy worrying about getting what they want rather than doing what they need to do. 

It is not as simple as, “It’s the kids fault.” We have relinquished our responsibilities as a people and parents and we are left with the mess we find ourselves in.  The only question is, “Now what?”

It is not as simple as, “It’s the kids fault.” We have relinquished our responsibilities as a people and parents and we are left with the mess we find ourselves in.

I don’t disagree with you.  If they are raised in a dysfunctional household in dysfunctional community it’s not their fault.  Still I don’t see sacrificing those that are trying to learn by letting the kids that won’t learn disrupt their education.

Sadly it’s too late for many of the teenagers in the poverty centers.

That’s why it’s important to scrap the welfare system and the failing public school monopoly today rather than let another generation be lost.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Take a look at the book,"Someone has to say it” by Neal Boortz--interesting chapter on public schools.  If you substitute “government schools” for what we call public schools we may get a clue as to why they are failing.  Government runs schools as well as they run immigration, social programs, tax legislation and collection, etc.  why would we expect any thing from government schools?  Maybe we are getting what we deserve.

Anna.  Thanks for a generous dose of The Truth.  Too bad liberals are unable to fathom it.  I loved the part your wrote, “(The ACLU) announced that the school could no longer force a student to go against his own will.” That means and meant that a student could not be forced to stop raping girls in the boy’s bathrooms, bringing drugs to school, using and selling them in school, wearing clothes that exposed underwear, using any language they choose, including profanity and vulgarities as well as verbal and physical disrespect for teachers.

The solution is for the public to take back the schools, kick the NEA/unions out and challenge the Communist ACLU.  Failing in that, homeschooling, independent schools, church or private schools or moving back to Europe!

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I take a back seat to very few in my criticism of the government schools, but must pipe up to point out here that graduation rate is a very poor proxy for education achievement, sad to say.  Our great-grandparents were very unlikely to graduate, but they were simultaneously more likely to be able to read well, including difficult texts (Shakespeare, King James Bible) that even honors students have difficulty reading today.

And vouchers?  Maybe a good short term solution, but don’t forget that “he who pays the piper calls the tune.” Vouchers could be the way the NEA destroys what’s unique about private education, sad to say.

Robert, I would think that IF the government starts interfering with government funded private schools, some of the schools could start to refuse vouchers and go completely private.

I think that’s a strawman argument.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Whistler, unfortunately the history of voucher (and charter for that matter) programs so far is a history of the ACLU and NEA trying to use the courts and legislatures to either shut them down or dull the distinctives that make private education work.  So I wish that you were right and that my objection is a straw man, but reality is that I’ve got a fair amount of evidence for my position already.

These children do fail themselves, however, the parents fail them and the teachers fail them also. Teach them morals and responsibility before you teach them the ABC’s. Not only are the minority students are going through all of this, but all students now of days. Besides, who are the minority students anymore? Bringing God back into the school system and teaching these children morals, honor, integrity, empathy, compassion, self- esteem, responsibility, trust and let’s not forget honesty and forgiveness. That might be a “real fine place to start.”

Minorities have always been a problem. I teach about Unsecured Loans for students learning finances. I was surprised to see only one person representing the minorities in our institute. I think they just don’t have enough money to invest in a good education.