The best and brightest will do the majority of their learning outside of the classroom, anyway. Really, what their parents do is more important than what their teachers do.

Ah, yeah, competition would be a very good thing!

With the time and resources thing, it can be hard to convince someone who doesn’t work in a school, but it’s true. There are some crappy schools with crappy teachers and administrators, but I see good ones every day who are coming in early, staying very late, and still struggling to manage everything that they need to do.

……hey, Obama’s school records from his various college trysts have never been released…..

could it be, even after holding back the top level’s of his classmates, he still couldnt even make the median grade level……

using the lefts global warming science methods…….I’d say that fact is settled…..and he is about as intelligent of a Liberal as one can find

Liberalism….why learn anything….when ignorance is free

This is definitely nothing new. Even the best teachers sometimes need to make a decision between putting effort into the kids who are falling behind and putting effort into enriching the kids who are already ahead. Those who use “elitism” as a reason are silly — but that’s not socialism…just lazy thinking. And the fact is that the gifted kids will have high-achieving outcomes in the long run regardless.

If we want to ensure higher differentiation of instruction, though, states will need to give more funding for gifted education rather than expect classroom teachers to come up with multiple curricula.

Didn’t Pushed

Officially you didn’t have to worry about the gifted program.

Well, nothing comes for free. We don’t necessarily need more money, though…better-managed money is more like it. Ultimately, if good teachers can’t do the job they want to do because they don’t have the time/resources, there’s a problem there.

I don’t think I know what you mean about tying the funding to the students, though. Are you talking about charging tuition?

Where is all your proof that Christians are using terrorism to force people to convert to Christianity, whiny lying c%nt?

It ain’t over to you prove the sh*t you spew.

There you go, Wing Chun Geologist, if that really is your name, spewing your divisive, racist hate!

Just wanted to save all the leftarded morons the trouble of thinking. We know how much that makes their heads hurt!

“Many teachers are not convinced of the importance of providing more challenging tasks for their gifted and talented pupils.” The teachers are lazy.

It wasn’t just their accents. It was the content.

They sounded…kind of like you. Confused. Incoherent. Not really sure what’s going on.

When you make a mistake, there’s an excuse. But when inner city high school kids don’t speak with the same accent as you, then they’re stupid.

Sure.

Oh how materialist of you.

I doubt you earn your own way in the world, but supposing you’re telling the truth…you just jumped all over me for my expectation that people provide for themselves.

I’d tend to agree with that. My point was to illustrate how yet again the big government mentality drags everyone down to the lowest common denominator. What could be an opportunity to drive these kids harder breaks down because some have an aversion to recognizing that there are winners and winners in the world.

Equality of opportunity. Not equity of outcome.

Dude.

Keep making fun of kids and making excuses for yourself. It’s pretty funny when, after that, you call other people confused and incoherent.

Too bad you run a blog where 5 or 6 of us whacknips can battle what, 400, of you right wing tards? And consistently put your panties in a knot?

Heh.

Your fallacy Rob, is basing all or your normative standards around making money. I don’t think you actually agree with AV. He’s talking about intellect. You are just talking about potential for material worth. You are reductionist/deflationist about learning where I doubt AV is.

I don’t expect anyone to subsidize my lifestyle. I work and have since I could.

As a nation we spend about 100 times as much to remediate goof-offs as we do to offer advanved training to students who want to use their time wisely.

Consider this…the cost of a high school student repeating a class they failed runs between $800 and $900. That’s the cost to the state. I have about $32,0000 worth of kids taking science from me as seniors because they failed as juniors.

Additionally the district offers classes in study skills, zero period to make up lost units, and after school tutoring to help these kids get caught up and pass the high school exit exam (a test requiring a 7th grade level of proficiency).

Here’s a kicker. To a person, each on of these kids is well known to the discipline office, and have probably failed multiple classes because they were disruptive and/or refused to work.

Because of this particular group of students, the school has to have a full time teacher overseeing an OCS (on campus suspension) room. So there’s an entire teacher’s salary that goes for nothing but temporarily housing kids who are too disruptive for their teachers.

It’s safe to assume that this minority of students are responsible for most if not all vandalism.

When you add up the costs of retaking previously failed classes, going to OCS, vandalism, tutoring, and credit make up, the cost of educating a poorly behaved students can easily be twice what it costs to educate an honor student or GATE student.

That’s true. Albert Einstein being a famous example.