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These people should be sent over to Lebanon, Syria, or Iraq.  Then they should strap explosives around their chests.  And then walk into those countries’ government offices.

Otherwise, they should be shot.

"DOWN WITH FREEDOM”!

What, would this woman prefer her own protest to be met with tanks, billy-clubs, and tear gas?

Uday say: ‘please pass the grey poupon!’

You’d think that people, in a city that had its trains blown to bits by terrorists, would be a little more intelligent.

But, they did elect that Zapatero wuss.

Its like that whole argument, “send the blacks back to Africa”, why is there such an amazing backlash against protesters, and yet, there is NO backlash against the administration that has lied, manipulated, torutured, and occupied a country that, we later find out, there was no weapons, there was no threat, there was NOTHING, and yet now we’ve killed tens of thousands of people for exactly NOTHING.  Why is there no backlash against the people who started this war?  It just astounds me that people criticize other people for “protesting” but then never criticize those who are the reasons FOR the protesters.

Why is there no backlash against the people who started this war?

What would you call the protesters?

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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OhTheBill muses, “Its like that whole argument, ‘send the blacks back to Africa’, why is there such an amazing backlash against protesters, and yet, there is NO backlash against the administration that has lied, manipulated, torutured, and occupied a country that, we later find out, there was no weapons, there was no threat, there was NOTHING, and yet now we’ve killed tens of thousands of people for exactly NOTHING.”

1. Prove the administration lied.  Just asserting it isn’t proof.  2. What manipulation?  Again, asserting it isn’t proof. 3. We took care of the “torture”.  Perhaps you missed the jail sentences that were handed out. 4. What makes you so sure that there wasn’t any weapons?  Saddam had time to get them out in the 14 month “rush to war”.  5. If you don’t think Saddam was a threat, then I’ve got some land down in Florida I’d like to sell you.

Why is there no backlash against the people who started this war?

Who are the protestors?  Who are International A.N.S.W.E.R.?  Who are the Worker’s World Party?  Who are the looney toons in the street?  Who is Michael Moore?  Who is Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and other looney toon Democrats?

If you don’t think there has been backlash against freedom...err, I mean..the “people who started this war”, then you’re not paying attention.

It just astounds me that people criticize other people for “protesting� but then never criticize those who are the reasons FOR the protesters.

Because the protestors are quite foolish.  They have essentially painted themselves into a corner where they go against democracy and are for the terrorists that they will lovingly call “freedom fighters”, “Iraq’s Minutemen”, and “insurgents fighting for the people”.  You should be astounded by that.

My argument that is basically the same as Sen. Barbara Boxer’s argument in her speech at Condeleeza Rice’s confirmation, she said that Dr. Rice has lied to the American people about the reasons for war, and then lied about lying after the fact.

I suppose what I meant by “backlash” was not the protesters, but why is there no accoutability anymore?  Why is there no accountability for the failed intelligence? And as for your assertion that the administration didn’t lie about WMD, or the war? Thats a laughable assertion to think that Dr. CondeSLEEZA Rice didn’t lie about WMD, about the war on the Sunday talk shows? She was the administrations largest dog of war...she barked whatever line she was told, just like Colin Powell who later APOLOGIZED and said the intelligence was wrong, EVERYTHING was wrong about this war.

there’s nothing wrong with this war? Oh Ok, so then you must advocate killing hundreds of thousands of people for intelligence that we can’t prove.  The world was against it, the UN was against it, and yet the United States takes it upon itself because “we know best”.  Well buddy, I’m sorry but the US does NOT know best, and it’s ridiculous to assert that there is “nothing wrong with this war"…

31January 2005. Total 1,475 US Dead

1Feb2005 Total from 15,612-17,842 Iraqi civillians dead.

THATS what’s wrong with this war.

OhTheBill loses it, “Thats a laughable assertion to think that Dr. CondeSLEEZA Rice didn’t lie about WMD, about the war on the Sunday talk shows? She was the administrations largest dog of war…she barked whatever line she was told...”

Question: do you expect to be taken seriously when you say stuff like this?  Who are you trying to convince here and where is your argument?

Looks like we have another unserious troll in our midst…

Fire Rumsfeld, Impeach Bush, and Fire CondeSLEEZA!!

OhTheBill keeps on, “My argument that is basically the same as Sen. Barbara Boxer’s argument in her speech at Condeleeza Rice’s confirmation, she said that Dr. Rice has lied to the American people about the reasons for war, and then lied about lying after the fact.”

What “lie”?  This is where your argument falls apart and where you start to look like a raving lunatic.

OnTheBill,

How many Iraqi’s would be dead if Saddam had kept power?  He killed an average of 10,000 a year…

As for your odd assertion that I must “advocate killing hundreds of thousands”, you’re deranged if you would think that.  I do not like war.  I do, however, realize that force is needed sometimes.  Saddam had 12 years of breaking the rules, and had 17 UN resolutions stating that there would be “severe consequences” should he not comply with the UN rules.  He didn’t comply.

I know enough of history to know that Saddam provided warning that he was going to invade Kuwait in ‘91.  He wanted access to the gulf and told us that.  He didn’t get it so he did what he said he would… but he was clearly MAD at the same time.  His thirst for power drove him to do things that undermined his capability to keep that power.  He thought that he was above the law.  He killed with impunity and ENJOYED IT.  We did the world a favor by taking him out.  Theocratic terrorists do not want to see democracy succeed in Iraq so they put up a fight that OUR MEDIA was all too willing to report as frequently as possible.  In one way or another, we have all been duped… Some of us by the MEDIA, some of us by the leaders of the US and other countries, some of us by our own feelings for a situation we can barely understand for having not lived in it. 

We were not lied to by Bush.  Dr. Rice certainly stuck her foot in it with her Sunday show stuff… but if that’s true then so did all the rest of the representatives of our government who claimed that there were WMD. 

I still believe that there are WMD waiting to be found.  Our military has found stuff buried in yards, they have found labs and shells and small ordinances of chemical weapons… With all of this, and the terms of the cease fire, we owed Saddam a visit just to maintain credibility.  The UN was looking to be toothless… In many ways, the impotence of the UN is worse than us going to war.

OhTheBill responds, “The world was against it, the UN was against it...”

Here’s a thought: who cares?  Come back when you make a better argument.

As to complaining about our amazingly low death totals: get a sense of reality.  We overthrow a dictatorship, this is the total death total for close to two years, and the Iraqis just had democratic elections.  But ignore that...it doesn’t fit into your paradigm of hating Bush.

OhTheBill, There was nothing wrong with the war… It was a continuation of hostilities after Saddam broke the cease fire agreement (repeatedly). 

Our intelligence failures were a direct result of previous administrations actions to cut funding.  While there should have been better intelligence, we can’t fault Bush for acting upon it.  It’s his job to act upon whatever he knows at the time.  He made a call.  I don’t think it was the wrong call to make. 

As I have stated here many times, I don’t like a lot of Bush’s domestic policy, but there were not a lot of options in the last election.  I may have voted for Lieberman, but somehow the liberal wing of the Democrat party thought that a traitorous liar would be a better candidate.  Too bad for them…

"I still believe that there are WMD waiting to be found.”

Don’t ell Seth about the Easter Bunny and Santa…

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-cia1feb01,1,4146281.story?coll=la-headlines-world&ctrack=2&cset=true

Excerpt:

“WASHINGTON — In what may be a formal acknowledgment of the obvious, the CIA has issued a classified report revising its prewar assessments on Iraq and concluding that Baghdad abandoned its chemical weapons programs in 1991, intelligence officials familiar with the document said.

The report marks the first time the CIA has officially disavowed its prewar judgments and is one in a series of updated assessments the agency is producing as part of an effort to correct its record on Iraq’s alleged weapons programs, officials said.”