Prosecuting Al Gore For Crimes Against Humanity?
Bbbuut...he invented the internet!
Friday, April 25, 2008
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Actually, Gore played a very crucial role in the development of the commercial internet.
You would know this if you talked to anyone who participated in its development. How close are you to those individuals Rob? Ever had a conversation with Vint Cerf? I worked him at both WorldCom and UUNET.
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.
http://www.walthowe.com/navnet/history.html
But, for most people it is a funny joke...i suppose, if you are ignorant on the subject.
And a nother pile of crap from the racebaitingpovertypiomp. Algore did not do anything to “create the intenet”, that is a pile of sannitized. He was a Senator, who spent his time stealing tax dollars and screwing up everything he touched. Repeated the lie that he has ever done anything constructive or positive ever is leftard propaganda.
Go do some more meth, sanni. Or are you all out in this early AM hour, liar?
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And a nother pile of crap from the racebaitingpovertypiomp. Algore did not do anything to “create the intenet”, that is a pile of sannitized. ... Repeated the lie that he has ever done anything constructive or positive ever is leftard propaganda.
I dont think I have ever seen a more desperate example of someone who clinged so strongly to fantasy.
Can you provide one bit of evidence from anyone credible that Gore did not do “anything” to help create the internet?
I will be looking forward to your lack of evidence to support your fantastic lie.
Show us what he did. Show us the code he wrote, the systems he developed. We are waiting.
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That is it. I am done with this site. I am dead certain 80% of your pool is fucking retarded Ron.
Seriously, dude.....that is just fucking complete lunacy. Go back to school, you lack basic reading comprehension skills. It explains a lot though.
Hannitized on January 7, 2008 at 08:04 pm
Were you lying then, or are you lying now?
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
It would be funny if it weren’t so typical. The thread is about the extent to which global warming alarmist Al Gore is culpable for a worldwide food shortage. Rob adds a funny throwaway line about the Internet and what does Hannitized focus on? Riiiiight! Al Gore’s role in inventing the Internet is irrelevant to the discussion.
“irrelevant to the discussion”: Hannie’s biography in four words!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Hannitized:
I hate to engage you in these things because it’s generally pointless. So I won’t. I have a suggestion instead:
Instead of sniping at other people’s posts and comments - why don’t you write some pieces of your own? The Reader’s Blog offers a forum that most other sites don’t - the opportunity to put yourself and your beliefs out there. Othere libs here do it. Even Sparkie, who is as far left as you are, puts himself out there from time to time and even makes a good point now and then.
I realize that fluidity of thought isn’t your strong point but give it a shot. You may have posted a piece or two already, but from the sheer volume of your comments I’d say that you could do more.
Come on, Sniper....show yourself.
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Hey!
Here is another pile of crap from the actual father of the internets!
Don’t look now nutters, but your standing in it.
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UH-OH!
More crap!
“In all fairness, it’s something Gore had worked on a long time. Gore is not the Father of the Internet, but in all fairness Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet, and the truth is ... I worked with him starting in 1978 when I got there, we were both part of a ‘futures group.’ The fact is, in the Clinton administration the world we had talked about in the ‘80s began to actually happen. You can see it in your own life, between the Internet, the computer, the cellphone.”
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“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob
Instead of sniping at other people’s posts and comments - why don’t you write some pieces of your own?
Pilgrim: Hannie’s been invited to start a reader blog almost as often as he has threatened to leave here and never come back!
Don’t hold your breath waiting for either to happen!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
So Boob you’re admitting that he didn’t “take the initiative to CREATE the internet” as he claimed.
The internet was created by many people.
Now Gore’s to be given some credit for his work, but he certainly didn’t create it.
The Debate is over! Global Whining has been confirmed.
Hannitized:
Can you provide one bit of evidence from anyone credible that Gore did not do “anything” to help create the internet?
Helping to create the internet is a far thing from creating the internet.
That’d be like some cooks assistant in the army claiming he beat the Germans. Yes he helped beat them, but didn’t do it by himself.
I think the guy deserves heaps of scorn for trying to take credit for it all by himself. If he didn’t mean to he should have issued a clarification as soon as possible.
The Debate is over! Global Whining has been confirmed.
Clinton also gave Gore a directive to implement improvements in or national airport security systems. Six months after they left office 911 happened. I’d say Gore put forth his usual effort.
Helping to create the internet is a far thing from creating the internet.
I think the guy deserves heaps of scorn for trying to take credit for it all by himself. If he didn’t mean to he should have issued a clarification as soon as possible.
Again, this is one more perfect example of what I am talking about. Trying to pin someone down to your narrowed interpretation of things is the rights favorite pass time.
He never said he did it all himself. I can’t help it if you take things in such a way that prevent you from demonstrating logic and/or reason.
And I am supposed to be stimulated to create my own posts on sites like this?
Again, I am here for the sheer purpose of shedding light on the dark interpretations and posts that typically distort the truth for the sake of cheap political scores.
If you don’t understand english, I can’t do anything with you.
Create: 1. to cause to come into being, as something unique that would not naturally evolve or that is not made by ordinary processes.
By that 1st definition I would say it is safe to say that you could give the guy a break, considering we are now benefitting for things that he “did not do anything” to helped evolve that would have not by ordinary processes.
but....thats just my thinking.....i’m weird.
Hannitized you’re full of crap. He said:
“I took the initiative to create the internet.”
in order to take full and complete credit for it.
In fact the internet already existed he merely introduced a law to let the little people use it.
The Debate is over! Global Whining has been confirmed.
“I took the initiative to create the internet.”
in order to take full and complete credit for it.
So I am full of crap because I highlighted the word in contention that he used in his sentence? Or am I full of crap because I defined the word he used?
I don’t understand how I am full of crap unless it is because I don’t accept YOUR NARROWED interpretation of his sentence that makes perfect sense if you actually understand the meaning of the the word created.
correction:
I don’t understand how I am full of crap unless it is because I don’t accept YOUR NARROWED interpretation of his sentence? Gores sentence does make perfect sense if you actually understand the definition of the the word “created”.
I don’t understand how I am full of crap… -Hannitized
You should have quit while you were ahead!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Hannie, persistent but not very bright. Funny how those 2 traits complement each other.
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Al Gore and the Internet
By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf
Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development.
No one person or even small group of persons exclusively “invented” the Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore’s contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: “During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” We don’t think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he “invented” the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore’s initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective.
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating
the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an “Interagency Network.” Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush’s administrations, Gore secured the
passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This “Gore Act” supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today, approximately 95% of our nation’s schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven operation.There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet’s rapid growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support
for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob
"blackwater"boob fails to understand the difference between creating something and supporting or propagating that something. Logic, language, and discernment obviously remain foreign concepts in the world of the soi dissant “reality based.”
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Rodney G. Graves
Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”
I guess Vin Cerf does too.
“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob
rbb joins Hannitized off topic, straining at gnats and swallowing camels!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
"blackwater"boob has a reading comprehension problem amongst his many other challenges.
Cert et al wrote:
[Algore was one of the first politicians] ...to promote and support its [the Internets] development.
Which is at best midwifery to creation.
Dolt.
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Rodney G. Graves
Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”
Creating the internet is one thing, but discovering Love Canal (declared an environmental disaster area by President Carter 2 full years beforehand) and fighting wildfires in West Texas in 2000 (when he was in fact nowhere near the place), those are some real accomplishments.
An incomplete but widely disparate list of Al Gore’s other public lies can be found here. My personal favorite is not knowing that the “event” at the California Buddhist temple wasn’t a fundraiser. That AlGore has quite a sense of humor.
“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”
Create: 1. to cause to come into being, as something unique that would not naturally evolve or that is not made by ordinary processes.
Rodney attempts to lecture about meanings, but fails to actually provide a definition. Helpful to his argument, but not very bright.
Anybody who has spoken to any key member of the development of the internet is not bashful about Al Gores role. Dr. David Lassner and I had quite a conversation about his role, and how they used to call a lot of the initiatives he promoted the GoreFund as he was able to get grants for universities to connect to the “internet” way back as far as 1999.
I worked with Vint Cert...i worked at WorldCom. We built MAE West, MAE East, before private peering was introduced and negotiated with the LECs and major back bone providers. Bill Clinton came to our head quarters in Ashburn as he was excited about the results. He also talked about Al Gores role.
Nobody, who was involved in the development of the Internet would out of hand reject Gores comments. Only right-wing ninnies would be so childish.
This cracks me up.
Only right-wing ninnies would be so childish.
Or left wing dweebs who only focus on the joke and not the point of the thread! (Thus becoming the joke?) Heh.
Thanks, Hannie for 100% off topic comments on this thread!
Hint: Next time, trying reading the headline and clicking on the link! You can DO it! (Then, we’ll work on reading comprehension!)
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Or left wing dweebs who only focus on the joke and not the point of the thread!
Lani’akea’s was 6ft hawaiian today Proof. That’s about a bit more than double over-head on the sets. It was glassy, peeling and sorta soft, so you could take off late and occasionally get a little barrel.
What sort on non-dweebiness did you partake in today?
...and THAT’S why you can’t read! Makes as much sense as anything else you’ve posted here!Lani’akea’s was 6ft hawaiian today
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
What sort on non-dweebiness did you partake in today?
So what did you do today Proof?
And tell skipper that if he is going to make a “joke” it should at least be funny or relevant.
...asked the dweeb. Newsflash! Nothing you did today is going to change the fact that none of your responses here were on topic. Nothing I did today will change it either!So what did you do today
Why are you so desperate to change the subject?
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Hannitized,
Glad to see you took the hint:
Lani’akea’s was 6ft hawaiian today Proof. That’s about a bit more than
double over-head on the sets. It was glassy, peeling and sorta soft, so you
could take off late and occasionally get a little barrel.
You have finally hit upon a subject you are an expert on.
Sadly for you, I doubt anyone else here much cares about it.
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Rodney G. Graves
Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”
Gosh Proof, dont be so bitter and hostile. I was just wondering why you would change the subject by calling me a dweeb?
I felt so bad about my dweebiness, you know cuz I only surfed 16ft waves on the North shore today, cuz im such a dweeb. I just was curious how non dweebie my superior is? Thats all.
You have finally hit upon a subject you are an expert on.
I know you care Rodney. Republicans are compassionate.
What did you destoy today Rodney? Have any big plans on who should be destoyed today?
H,
Like so many of the things you claim to know, it just ain’t so…
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Rodney G. Graves
Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”
I was just wondering why you would change the subject by calling me a dweeb?
I was responding to the dweeb’s whiny:
Only right-wing ninnies would be so childish.
It was your childish name calling that elicited the response. Thanks for STILL diverting your attention from the actual subject of the thread.
Is logic to a Democrat like garlic to a vampire? Sure seems that way!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Let me see...He’ll talk about the Internet, he’ll talk about surfing (real or imagined) he’ll talk about other people...everything BUT the topic of the thread. Real Renaissance man that Hannitized! /sarcasm
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
My bad! Until Keith Olbermann or The Daily Kos talks about it, Hannie doesn’t have an opinion!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
So you are saying Conservatives aren’t compassionate Rodney?
See! You can’t even shame this turkey into commenting on the topic!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
H,
The correct question would be when did I claim to be a “compassionate conservative.” But then again, you never ask the important and relevant questions, apparently because you seem to think you already know all the answers.
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Rodney G. Graves
Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”
Still no proof that Algore invented the internet? Why am I not surprised.
The people who actually did “invent” the internet fell down laughing when the Goreacle spewed this shit. That made Tipper angry, and she instigated this PR campaign to spread this lie. Don’t forget, the movie Love Story was about them!
My favorite quote from the Gores came from Al sr, when he told people, apparently a lot in the last years of his life, that Albert was the greatest disappointment of his entire life. And we are left to deal with the fact that Algore’s daddy didn’t hug him enough. What a pathetic piece of crap.
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The people who actually did “invent” the internet fell down laughing when the Goreacle spewed this shit.
You mean like Vint Cert, “The Father of the Internet”? Those kind of people who actually “did” invent the internet?
Vint Cerf who wrote several articles about how Gores statement reflected the truth?
You guys crack me up.
Lucky 13! Hannie’s going for the Guinness Book of World Records for off topic posts on a single thread!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
This topic is in the post Proof. Because that you don’t recognize it does not change the reality, the reality that you are ignoring.
This topic is in the post
Read the headline, moron. Click on the link, twit and then, try to tell me with a straight face that a single comment of yours has been on topic. (14 and counting!)
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Hey! Maybe you can tell us how high the waves were today in lieu of an actual argument?
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
The waves are 4-5ft hawaiian. Thats around 10ft faces on the sets. I am about to head out to the North Shore...the battery on my video camera is fully charged.
You should have seen the blonde at my friends wedding bon-fire last night at Pipe....wow. And I don’t really even like blondes. Spontaneous and upsurd poetry slamming.....works. Whod a thunk it?
A wave report AND fantasy in lieu of comment! Little Orphan Hannie is at the top of his game!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Proof,
It seems “friend” “H” suffers from delusions of relevance. But hey, “H” has all the answers!
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Rodney G. Graves
Persia delenda est.
Latin: “Persia (modern day Iran) should be destoyed”
Just did an hour of sweep, lexnex, google, and I have found zero(0) references to Vint crediting Algore as the inventor of the internet. Did find 2 quotes where he stated that the greatest help Congress gave was staying the fuck out of the way. He actually named Algore as the least obstructionist of the committee members involved in opening ARPANET to wider access.
Here is a list of the acknowledged “Fathers” of the Internet, Barry M. Leiner, Vinton G. Cerf, David D. Clark,
Robert E. Kahn, Leonard Kleinrock, Daniel C. Lynch,
Jon Postel, Larry G. Roberts, Stephen Wolff. Notice the total lack of the name Albert Gore Jr. in this list?
So, I will save sanni, this time and drag him into the actual topic. Algore’s obstructionism should be added to the list of charges against him at his Nuremberg style trial. There, racebaitingpovertypimp, you are now on topic.
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It seems “friend” “H” suffers from delusions of relevance.
And delusions of competence!
Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.
Oh, and so it will stop crying to its mommy that people are being mean to it. Algore’s “inventing” of the internet was the High-Performance Computing and Communications Initiative. No code written. No systems developed. No intelligence required. His staffers wrote it, he never bothered reading it, and claimed credit for “inventing” the internet. Oh, yea, and he shoved vast amounts of other people’s money into his pockets. For doing nothing.
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