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Friday, September 14, 2007


Propaganda: Your Job In Germany

Directed by Frank Capra, and written by Theodor Geisel - that's right, none other than Doctor Seuss. A very interesting look into the time capsule.

P.S. Over at WILLisms.com I labeled this piece 'Propaganda: Your Job In Iraq Germany (strikethroughs don't work in Rob's titles). Watch the vid and you'll see why.

Crossposted from WILLisms.com

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golfmann on September 15, 2007 at 05:15 am

What’s the opening song?


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The Whistler on September 15, 2007 at 05:32 am

I meant the part while the bell was ringing.


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The Whistler on September 15, 2007 at 05:34 am

I remember old timers telling me about these films. And about the Werewolves. Remember them? The SS and Gestapo members who assassinated officials who cooperated with Occupation Forces. Who assassinated people who collaborated with enemies of the Fatherland. The last of whom were hunted down in the late 1950s, after they had joined forces with the communists and the German people turned on them and gave them to our military police. Thats right! Just like Iraq, the people turned on them, just as people in Iraq are turning against terrorists. The fact that this is happening in only 4 years instead of the 12 it took in Germany passes right over leftard’s heads.


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2Hotel9 on September 15, 2007 at 06:24 am

The music in the opening over the bell ringing is Beethoven’s Ode to Joy from the 9th Symphony.

Ken McCracken on September 15, 2007 at 12:14 pm

I knew one of you geeks would spare me having to answer that. I been going through classical music CDs that Wifey put together for me and just found that.


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2Hotel9 on September 15, 2007 at 12:40 pm
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I’ve never seen this propaganda flick before, but I have seen this one.

WETBACK on September 15, 2007 at 04:32 pm

If that is where you got your education about Jews no wonder you are so screwed in the head.


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2Hotel9 on September 16, 2007 at 06:21 am
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Your job in America. 

Someday the American people may be cured of their disease..  The world conquest disease.  But they must prove that they have been cured.  We are determined that their plan for world conquest must stop.  We are determined that the vicious American cycle of war, phony peace, war, phony peace and war.. will once, and for all time, come to an end.

Jorge da Silva on September 16, 2007 at 11:56 pm

Study the history of Spain, Jorge. It’s full of what you accuse us of, but they really did all of that, while we don’t.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 17, 2007 at 12:29 am

Jorge da Silva - Someday the American people may be cured of their disease..  The world conquest disease.

Hi troll!

likwidshoe on September 17, 2007 at 01:10 am
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Occupy yourselves but not Iraq.
What did the liberated Europeans (ie after the end of German occupation brought about by the German Army) do to collaborators?
What will the liberated Iraqis(ie after the end of the American Occupation brought about by the American Army) do to collaborators?
Collaborating with the hated foreigner, immune to justice or the courts.
PS Some Mercs protecting a convoy in Iraq opened fire and killed seventeen civilians today. And the mercenaries are beyond any accountability.
America using mercenaries! Talk about overpaying!

Fightin' Peacenik on September 17, 2007 at 01:49 am
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Study your own history Bobbie its being written every day in Iraq

Jorge da Silva on September 17, 2007 at 02:10 am

georgie, you have the freedom to express your moronic opinion because America gives it to you. By the way, your welcome.

Lying Peacefuck, exactly who are those security forces employed by? And what nationality are they? What nation supplies the largest number of civilian security operators? Got a clue? Or just more socialist bullshit?


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2Hotel9 on September 17, 2007 at 03:54 am

Yeah, America is so evil for taking out dictators and freeing people.

Bad America! Bad! You should have just kissed Saddam’s ass like all of the “peace” loving people. America should just bend over and take it up the ass like cowardly Spaniards.

Welcome to the upside down bizarro world.

likwidshoe on September 17, 2007 at 05:10 am
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You will not ridicule them.  You will not argue with them.  You will be aloof, watchful and suspicious.

Jorge da Silva on September 17, 2007 at 05:44 am

The US gets attacked by Al Qeada and we go after them where they are.

Spain gets attacked by AQ and they run and hide.


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Someday the American people may be cured of their disease..  The world conquest disease.

Someday, perhaps you’ll be cured of your paranoid schizophrenia?

We are determined that the vicious American cycle of war, phony peace, war, phony peace and war.. will once, and for all time, come to an end.

Speaking of phonies, Tin George, stick to writing about things you know: drool cups, hiding your meds so the doctors won’t know you haven’t taken them…things like that!

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2Hotel9 on September 17, 2007 at 07:05 am

Jorge: Why is it that almost the entire continent of South America and Central America, not to mention the southern part of North America, have Spanish as their national language?  That’s a European language, isn’t it?  How did it get there?  Did the native people vote for it?  Any casualties in that takeover?


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 17, 2007 at 07:07 am

We are determined that their plan for world conquest must stop.

jerkie, you are a blittering idiot.  Almost every European country had a hand in plans for world conquest the most prominent being Spain, England, France and Germany.  In fact, of all the world powers, the USA is the only one that has not tried to extend their domain significantly after military victors.  By your warped mind, the USA should now be occupying most of Europe and significant parts of the East.


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docdave on September 17, 2007 at 08:06 am
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americans like anglosaxons race are a bunch of coward shopkeeprs who cannot dare attack others unless the other party has been weakned by sanctions and has no army or airforce.
thse americasn are fit to attack unarmed cic=vilains only even then thes ebritish and american bastrds are going to be killed and destroyed for ever.
now has the time to kill thse amr=erican and briti9sh low bred anglosaxon bastards.

avatar singh on September 17, 2007 at 08:57 am
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4th June, 2007.


President putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.
Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all the cities, towns and big villages( including military instalations) of england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how germany wes villified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.
  look how american has been isntagated for perpetaul awar by the british bastards. Aritish spy naill faergussan and huntingtosn go to usa and preach hatred and racial inflammmatory speech telling americans that the time for religious and civilization war has come-why do these english bastards not figtht their war by thier own means rather than on shoulders of american arms?
say even if russia destroys usa then if britian or rather england is allowed to exist then the english parastic dog race   will ,by very parasitic nature, will try to disrupt russia or other countries’ existence. therefore instead of attacking usa or poland it is best policy of russia to attrack and destroy to the whole of england which must be evaporated to a rubble.
thse same british bastards talking of religious(chrisitan and muslim ) war propagandasie hispanics, iriash , ger,ams , french as not in american chritisan groups. they also do not think those white europeans to be thier kind which desreves to be in america-such is the evil propaganda of british spies inside america.  .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british bastards.In fact poland and other east europeans were taken in hurriedly in E. U. only by the insistence of the british because british wanted to dilute the core group of europe that is france and germany ‘s influnce and make EU just an appendage of angloamerican power structure while in fact europe was started as a counter to angloamerican influnce-what a reversal of role!
it is no use targetting poland -target the main villain which is england and the english race which m ust be aniihilated fromt the face of the world.

avatar singh on September 17, 2007 at 08:58 am
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http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/speeches_files/2006/060906_webcast.htm

LaRouche in Berlin Webcast: Bring Back The Axioms of FDR

This is a transcript of Lyndon LaRouche’s international webcast Sept. 6, 2006 from Berlin and Washington, D.C., sponsored by LaRouche’s Political Action Committee. The meeting was chaired in Berlin by Jessica Tremblay and Jonathan Tennenbaum, and by Debra Freeman in Washington.are also available.

avatar singh on September 17, 2007 at 09:00 am
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As America teetered on the brink of entering World War II, Charles A. Lindbergh gave a fateful speech that did more damage to the America First movement for peace than all the propagandistic efforts of the pro-war groups he named in Des Moines that day. In his oration, the great aviator and American hero sought to define who and what had brought us to the point of no return:

“The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish, and the Roosevelt administration.

“Behind these groups, but of lesser importance, are a number of capitalists, Anglophiles, and intellectuals who believe that the future of mankind depends upon the domination of the British empire. Add to these the Communistic groups who were opposed to intervention until a few weeks ago, and I believe I have named the major war agitators in this country.”


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6th march,2007.

BBC comment(atleast her washingtons correspondent’s comments) on scooter LibBy’s gulity verdit on 6th march,2007—“it does not matter to white house as long as iraq war turns out to be all right”!! for BBc illegal occupation of iraq and killing of million civilians does not matter -it will be al r ight for american occupation. This is human rights and democracy ala BBc and british propaganda.
see and watch todays bbc and realize how much bbc and other british propaganda machinary is responsible for bush war crimes.
He also assuredly told that this “white house is quite safe"as wished for by the british ofocurse. during gore-bush florida tussle bbc was advocating gore to leave bush alone as britian was waiting for american missile defence to come her shore soon and so no delay in small matter of who should be presidentof usa be allowed.d-bit belicve it? look at all british propaganda between 1st novembr till 20th novembr of 2000.
it is high time that engish spies in american establishment be eliminated..

it is high time that these english spies in usa are taken care of .

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these protestant baptists((and so callled religious fundamentalists and evnagalicals bastards)) are the agents of england inside america and have always been.
thse baptists are the ones who created civil war for the benefit of british to reconquer america and during attack of britian in 1812 these baptists were acting as enemy agents inside amaerica.
these baptisat are called patrioit—now what a shame? the southern flag is sympbol of american patriotism when it was really an instrument of treachery to the american independence.

        ”  I am afraid the meddling small minded, fearful white boy is indicative of a large group of the amerikan types who still support a corrupt regieme of neo-con syncopants. He and those like him live in suspicion and fear of anyone different from themselves.
He was once a settler who cut down and burned the forest of New England because he was afraid of the wildlife. He was once a trader who passed out smallpox blankets to the Indians. Then later a buffalo hunter who decimated entire herds and left them to rot on the plains. His grandfather herded Japanese into camps, his father was at MyLai. His brothers are at Abu Graib and Gitmo. Where will he be tommorrow?”

            ”  but all non-WASP got (and still get) their time as scapegoat-du-jour: Native, Black, Chinese, Irish, Italian, Jew, Japanese, Catholic, Latino, and now Middle-Eastern, just to name a few. Along with the scapegoating goes the profiling, which is little more than prejudice and stereotypes made legal.”

 

The recent director of Harvard’s Carr Center for Human Rights, Michael Ignatieff, proposed in the New York Times in May 2004 that we should give U.S. presidents the authority to preventively detain U.S. citizens and to engage in “coercive interrogations” should the United States experience another terrorist attack like 9/11. Ignatieff argued that “defeating terror requires violence” and “might also require coercion, secrecy, deception, even violation of rights.” “Sticking too firmly to the rule of law simply allows terrorists too much leeway to exploit our freedoms,” he said.[1]

In addition to Harvard’s top human rights academic arguing on behalf of “torture lite,” Harvard Law School’s Alan Dershowitz supports “torture warrants” so that U.S. presidents can torture detainees in so-called “ticking bomb” cases.

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britain is the number one parasite nation of this world and is the main eviul brain behind american offensive (perpetual war) everywhere in the world.  Why? Because only through american military might can a fourth rate country like england hope to have some influnce in the world.
and the rest of the world is resopibnsible for this-

avatar singh on September 17, 2007 at 09:05 am

americans like anglosaxons race are a bunch of coward shopkeeprs who cannot dare attack others unless the other party has been weakned by sanctions and has no army or airforce.

Too funny, as it turns out we’re out there in uniform when the enemy hides behind women and children and usually only manages to murder someone else’s woman and children.


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This is a transcript of Lyndon LaRouche’s international webcast Sept. 6, 2006

Who in the world would waste two seconds on what Lyndon LaRouche had to say?
Or ponder the anti-war sentiments of Charles Lindbergh except to learn from his mistakes?


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Boo, singh, there’s a bogeyman in your closet that was put there by Bush and Blair to get you when you sleep.  Pleasant dreams…


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docdave on September 17, 2007 at 09:55 am
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Wow, lots of kool aid drinkers here! America is a de facto empire that manipulates smaller countries in order to grab their resources, and it has been for a long time. It’s obvious. That kool aid sure does the trick to install mental blinders.

willie mink on September 17, 2007 at 10:41 am

Lots of tinfoilhatters today!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 17, 2007 at 10:47 am

So what exact resources have we grabbed?  Don’t try to list where we pay the world market price for these commodities providing wealth to these oppressed countries.


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The Whistler on September 17, 2007 at 10:48 am

Its funny, the threads that draw them out of the woodwork, like roaches. You could do 10 posts specifically to get a response out of them and nothing.
Then, SHAZAM, there they are. Flip on the light and they are scurrying for the corners, blithering conspiracies and quoting the usual idiots.
And I thought some one else would chime in with other examples, like wetback did. Oh, wet, you are promoted, no longer just a troll. Your replacements have just submitted their resume’.


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America is a de facto empire

With the possible exception of not having de facto colonies!
In fact-o, you might want to look up de facto, since:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means


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Proof on September 17, 2007 at 11:15 am

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

We already did The Princess Bride.

Do you ever get the idea that these kooks sit around in the dark mouthing all of these sayings without ever actually knowing what they’re saying?


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The Whistler on September 17, 2007 at 11:28 am

America is a de facto empire that manipulates smaller countries in order to grab their resources

That’s the way to show love for your country, comrade.

Or maybe you don’t live in the USA and as a foreigner you feel that you have to enlighten us with your wisdom.  /sarc


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Do you ever get the idea that these kooks sit around in the dark mouthing all of these sayings without ever actually knowing what they’re saying?

It’s how you tell the players apart! The guys who use some word because they think it makes them sound more intellectual and then misuse it, are a constant source of amusement to me!


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Proof on September 17, 2007 at 11:44 am

The best part is that the goals and objectives of that film were achieved. These euroweenies crying about big, bad, evil America have the freedom to do so because Americans insisted they be given that right.

In fact, we may well have done too good a job. Germany appears to be loosing to the expansionist Muhammedans over running Europe as we speak.

As McWatt always said,“Oh well, what the hell.”


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2Hotel9 on September 17, 2007 at 12:04 pm
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My complements to Mr. McCracken. Finally, a right-wing blog that does not delete posts made by people who have not drunk the Kool-Aid. I am impressed.

Alexander on September 17, 2007 at 04:43 pm

We’d rather make fun of the Kool-Aid drinking lefties here.

It’s not much of a hobby but it’s what we have.


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The Whistler on September 17, 2007 at 04:46 pm

We allow koolaid drinkers to post all the time, Al. We let you, didn’t we?


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2Hotel9 on September 17, 2007 at 05:14 pm

If you’re wondering where all of these upside downers are coming in from, it is CounterPunch. The left hand side’s “Website of the Day” for September 17th is this post.

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-not Human / Superterrestrial-     

To those who espouse the doctrine of reconciliation to old world thinking, old world occupation, and old world indoctrination in the New World, I offer this:  the status of the New World Revolution continues as follows -
“Interested men, who are not to be trusted, weak men who cannot see, and a certain set of moderate men who think better of the European world than it deserves;  and the last class, by an ill-judged deliberation, will be the cause of more calamities to this continent than all the other three.”
              - Thomas Paine
                1776

Jahhannibal Abba-Ra on September 17, 2007 at 06:05 pm

See, Al? Artpolitik posted a topical and insightful quote. It actually cuts the legs out from under the leftard position, which may in fact be art’s point. Ambiguity is a fine blade, if you can use it.


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2Hotel9 on September 17, 2007 at 06:12 pm
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I don’t want to get in an argument with you guys. I know I won’t convince you of anything.

I really was sincere with my complement. My sense is that at sites like FreeRepublic or LittleGreenTomatoes, you get banned the moment you post something that deviates from the local groupthink. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that there is at least one right-wing Web site that is not like that, namely this one.

And yes, I came here directly from CounterPunch.

As for Old World vs. New, I recommend the following: American Fundamentalisms. You can put down Europe all you like, but when you reject Europe, what you are actually rejecting is the Enlightenment, which the United States was a product of, and replacing it with George Bush’s fusion of American exceptionalilsm with Christian fundamentalism.

Alexander on September 17, 2007 at 07:25 pm
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The Neocon party may be gone, but Neocon thinking, training and Neocon trickery, remain.  The American lust for conquest is not dead, its meirely gone undercover.  Out of power, but still in there.  Thinking.  Thinking about next time.

Jorge da Silva on September 17, 2007 at 07:32 pm

replacing it with George Bush’s fusion of American exceptionalilsm with Christian fundamentalism.

What the hell are you saying?  No offense intended but you are like other leftists that throw out a one sentence expression as if were gospel and give no supporting information or links.  Frankly I see little difference between Bush and other presidents except that he was thrown into a war mode by the 9/11 attack. [I hope you aren’t a truther too]


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docdave on September 17, 2007 at 07:35 pm

Neocon party?  Why wasn’t I invited?

The American lust for conquest is not dead,

Once again the US liberates we don’t conquer.

I really was sincere with my complement. My sense is that at sites like FreeRepublic or LittleGreenTomatoes, you get banned the moment you post something that deviates from the local groupthink.

Actually if you want to get banned quick go visit a left wing site and post something conservative.


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The Whistler on September 17, 2007 at 07:36 pm

you get banned the moment you post something that deviates from the local groupthink.

Name sites that do this, I don’t know of any.  [It’s LittleGreenFootballs not LittleGreenTomatoes]  Many sites require registrations.  Most will only blackball someone who posts mindless and needless profanity.  Unfortunately, many lefties cannot post anything that is not vulgar in some way but that’s a posters problem not a sites problem.


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docdave on September 17, 2007 at 07:50 pm
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@docdave

I did give one link, to an interview with a former Catholic priest whose father was the founding director of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency.

In some respects, your claim that there is little difference between Bush and other presidents is not unreasonable.  And no, I am not a truther any more, because the left-wing CounterPunch Web site convinced me that those theories are hogwash and a waste of time.

@The Whistler

I have gotten banned from dailyKos for being critical of Israel’s 2006 invasion of Lebanon. I think that the quickest way to get banned there is to criticize Israel, not to post something “conservative”. I don’t really hang out at other liberal/left-wing Web sites to get a sense of who they ban. The only progressive Web site where anyone can sign up to post that I visit regularly is BoomanTribune, which hardly ever bans anyone for anything. You’re more than welcome there. (I think it deserves more traffic.)

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@docdave

I did give two sites. (Sorry about the “Little Green Tomatoes”. That’s what happens when you try to save time by typing instead of cutting and pasting.) I have read diaries on dailyKos where someone gives “digests” of his visits to FreeRepublic. These visits invariably end with a ban within a few hours, without the poster ever using profanities. Of course, I don’t have direct evidence for this, but rely upon my trust for the dailyKos poster.

Alexander on September 17, 2007 at 08:05 pm

I have gotten banned from dailyKos for being critical of Israel’s 2006 invasion of Lebanon. I think that the quickest way to get banned there is to criticize Israel, not to post something “conservative”.

OK it’s a liberal site that feels free to ban people that it disagrees with.

Frankly I enjoy a debate with someone who intelligently disagrees with me.  I think that makes me better by keeping me honest. 

If you stay around here you’ll learn that you get responded to in kind.  If you post something respectful, you’ll be answered respectfully even if the viewpoints are opposing.

If you do a drive-by slam the right you’ll get mocked. 

Liberals can and do post on the Readers blogs.  Spammers get banned right away, but there’s only been a handful of trolls that have been told to stay away.


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The Neocon party may be gone, but Neocon thinking, training and Neocon trickery, remain.  The American lust for conquest is not dead, its meirely (sic) gone undercover.  Out of power, but still in there.  Thinking.  Thinking about next time.

As opposed to the lack of thinking you demonstrate, Jorge of da Tinfoil Hat?


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Proof on September 17, 2007 at 08:10 pm

georgie, all you have is Jew hate and stupidity. You would think that a person living in a country that has been raped by Islamic armies 3 times would stand and fight. Instead you bend over the table gleefully waiting for another gangbang. You are pathetic.

Al, welcome to sayanything. You will find it is less rightwing, more open melee. And watch out, there is mines over there and over there. And watch those monkeys, they bite.

I have been here for 2 bannings, and trust me, theyn worked long and hard to get there ass thrown into the electronic street.


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2Hotel9 on September 17, 2007 at 08:29 pm
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OK it’s a liberal site that feels free to ban people that it disagrees with.

Frankly I enjoy a debate with someone who intelligently disagrees with me.  I think that makes me better by keeping me honest.

DailyKos has the Scoop comment rating feature, and you get banned there automatically if you get enough troll-ratings.

I enjoyed the brief exchanges we had here. The video is a real find. Maybe I’ll explore the site some more sometime.

I have a lot of respect for real conservatives, like Patrick Buchanan or Paul Craig Roberts. I do not think that George Bush is a real conservative.

Alexander on September 17, 2007 at 08:39 pm

I do not think that George Bush is a real conservative.

I don’t think that GWB ever claimed to be a real conservative.  He’s got some bad points (spending for one) and some good ones (fighting the war on terror).

I very much disagree that Buchanan is a conservative and I haven’t been following PC Roberts for a while but I thought I read somewhere he went a bit wobbly.


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The Whistler on September 17, 2007 at 09:05 pm
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Hotel, your problems with monkeys, mines, gangs and being beaten over tables are yours alone. 

The problem now is future peace, and that is your job in America.  You’ll see flowers.  You’ll see some mitey pretty scenery.  But don’t let it fool you.  Be alert, suspicious of everything.  Take no chances.

Jorge da Silva on September 17, 2007 at 10:16 pm
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I am sorry to say but all the talk of German expansionism in this video reminds me of American “liberation” of its fellow countries. We really love to bring democracy to places “floating on seas of oil”

Wolfowitz in sheeps clothing!

Also a lot of commenters here claiming to be ‘conservatives’ are just giving conservatism a bad name. They seem to be nothing but hubris stricken arrogant posers who believe that their country can do no wrong and anyone who disagrees is a traitor.

I am not sure equating Iraq with Germany will help us. Its a lazy comparison to boot and is made primarily to appeal to sentiments rather that facts on the ground.

We need to look past the smoke and mirrors…

Faisal on September 17, 2007 at 11:00 pm

I am not sure equating Iraq with Germany will help us. Its a lazy comparison to boot and is made primarily to appeal to sentiments rather that facts on the ground.

Actually, the comparison between Islamofascism and Nazi fascism is pretty accurate.  Saddam’s uncle was a buddy of Hitler.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 17, 2007 at 11:09 pm
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Proof I read your big newspapers like Washington’s Post and it proves that the disease is not cured.
The Next War
It’s always looming. But has our military learned the right lessons from this one to fight it and win? By Wesley K. Clark
Sunday, September 16, 2007; Page B01

Your job in America. 

Someday the American people may be cured of their disease..  The world conquest disease.  But they must prove that they have been cured.  We are determined that their plan for world conquest must stop.  We are determined that the vicious American cycle of war, phony peace, war, phony peace and war.. will once, and for all time, come to an end

Jorge da Silva on September 17, 2007 at 11:10 pm

Alexander - As for Old World vs. New, I recommend the following: American Fundamentalisms. You can put down Europe all you like, but when you reject Europe, what you are actually rejecting is the Enlightenment, which the United States was a product of, and replacing it with George Bush’s fusion of American exceptionalilsm with Christian fundamentalism.

The world’s immigrants have already decided in the “exceptionalism” of America. They are banging down America’s door to come in. You can’t say the same for “Enlightened” Europe. The only major immigrants filling into those countries are Muslims who hate the west. So much for that “Enlightenment” that they supposedly have. They are committing suicide. The entire Western world, America included, are filled with a sizable minority of people who absolutely hate the Western values. That’s not society reaching “Enlightenment” by any means of the word.

And where is this Christian fundamentalism? What, exactly, has the guy done to implement it? You’re off your rocker with that criticism. It doesn’t exist.

Jorge da Silva - If you have a problem with opposing Islamic fascism, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-il (ruler of that wonderful country where they’re eating tree bark to stay alive) and the fascism and communism of old, then that says a lot more about you than it does us.

The old communists and present day Islamists say that America has a “world conquest disease”. Your rhetoric betrays you and shows what side you’re on.

likwidshoe on September 17, 2007 at 11:37 pm

I am sorry to say but all the talk of German expansionism in this video reminds me of American “liberation” of its fellow countries. We really love to bring democracy to places “floating on seas of oil”

First of all, only a Stalinist of a fascist would decry America liberating its fellow countries such as France, Germany itself, Austria, Japan, Korea, and yes even Iraq.

Faisal, are you a fascist who thinks it is bad that Iraq is now a democracy?

I suspect you might be.

Ken McCracken on September 17, 2007 at 11:43 pm

Wesley Clark: Well-known left-wing extremist.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 17, 2007 at 11:59 pm
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You will not ridicule them.  You will not argue with them.  You will be aloof, watchful and suspicious.

* in the 1980s Soviets fought AlQuada and Reagan loved AlQaeda as freedom-fighters paying them through CIA’s Casey, and dedicated Space Shuttle Columbia to terrorists.

A fascist clash today: one side Neocon, one side AlQuada, the rest of the world aloof, watchful and suspicious.

Jorge da Silva on September 18, 2007 at 12:02 am

Jorge, the ‘neocon’s as you put it, are in favor of a Constitution, a democratic Republic, the Bill of Rights, and universal suffrage - not just here in the United States but everywhere.

If you think that makes them ‘fascists’ you are some kind of drug addict.

Ken McCracken on September 18, 2007 at 12:05 am

To oppose Al Qaeda is “fascist” according to Jorge da Silva.

The guy is making it clear what side he is on. Any argument from here on out will be unproductive. Jorge da Silva is telling us that he is our enemy.

likwidshoe on September 18, 2007 at 12:09 am

in the 1980s Soviets fought AlQuada…


Wrong.  The Soviet attempt to spread their totalitarian regime into Afghanistan created Al Qaeda.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 18, 2007 at 12:14 am

I also hate having to keep killing this leftist myth that the CIA aided al-Qaeda in Afghanistan:

CNN journalist Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997, has stated

  The story about bin Laden and the CIA—that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden—is simply a folk myth. There’s no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn’t have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn’t have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. The real story here is the CIA did not understand who Osama was until 1996, when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.

Ken McCracken on September 18, 2007 at 12:18 am

Also, Jorge, you really need to read The Looming Tower.

God it is sad that the world is full of people like you who believe this comic-book version of current events.

Ken McCracken on September 18, 2007 at 12:20 am
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America made friends with a bad gang. When you give money to a bad gang (freedom fighter) to fight another bad gang (Soviet) you are a friend of the bad gang.  When the friendly bad gang turns on you, your friendly gang becomes an enemy gang. 

The disease is not cured.

Jorge da Silva on September 18, 2007 at 12:54 am

Jorge da Silva made friends with a bad gang. When you give support to a bad gang (Al Qaeda) to fight another bad gang (big bad meanie America) you are a friend of the bad gang.  When the friendly bad gang turns on you, your friendly gang becomes an enemy gang.

Jorge da Silva has been describing his own “disease”.

likwidshoe on September 18, 2007 at 12:58 am

Jorge da Silva thinks that America and Europe were wrong to team up with Stalin in the fight against Hitler. He thinks that we were “friends” when we did that.

Jorge da Silva is an unthinking reactionary fool.

likwidshoe on September 18, 2007 at 01:01 am
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You play and pay with bad gangs and they bite you, not me.  Stay away from Neocon and AlQaeda gangs.

Then you will be cured of your war disease.

Goodbye.

Jorge da Silva on September 18, 2007 at 01:48 am

You play and pay with bad gangs and they bite you, not me.

You’re talking out of your ass. The people here endorse no such playing or paying. None of us. None of the regular conservatives and none of the regular liberals who comment here.

If you’re talking about America making some bad decisions by “playing” with some of these groups in the past, I don’t think you’ll find an argument here. We conservatives all just want them dead! Liberals want to talk to them. Is talking considered “playing”?

If you’re asking most of us to agree that teaming up with Stalin in the fight against Hitler was a bad idea, I don’t think that you’re going to find much agreement there with those at this blog, those in America, and those in Europe. You’re in the far minority position there. Most people recognize that there is sometimes a tactical advantage to temporarily working with an enemy. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn’t. That’s the nature of deadly enemies.

As for your “not me” quip, don’t be naive Jorge. “Bad gangs” like Al Qaeda bite the innocent. You’re not safe from an Islamist movement trampling you underfoot. They even trample their own. Everybody and anybody gets hit from “bad gangs” like Al Qaeda. Don’t smugly act as if you’re safe or immune from their evil acts. You’re an infidel. They’ve already declared you an enemy.

Stay away from Neocon and AlQaeda gangs.

There are no “Neocon gangs”. Your belligerent irrationality is showing there.

As for Al Qaeda, what’s it to you if I decide that it’s a good idea to go after them and kill them? Do you like these guys or something? If you don’t agree with it, then just mind your own business and mind your own country. This doesn’t concern you unless you really like these guys and want them left alone.

Then you will be cured of your war disease.

Goodbye.

This is stupid talk for all of the reasons stated above.

You’re not a serious person Jorge. Run along now troll.

likwidshoe on September 18, 2007 at 03:20 am

georgie, you have failed. Socialism is a failure, so you are a failure.

The Muhadjadeen called Osama a moneyed playboy, and they did not ever take him seriously, they merely took his money. That made him made. So he hired known terrorists and they murdered the real leaders of the Muhadjadeen and installed themselves in power as the Taliban. Again, you failed, you thought you were putting socialists in power to supply you with opium. Wrong.

Tell us, georgie, while your grandfather was away killing women and children with the Nazis how many little Nazi bastards did she give birth to? Other than your Nazi bastard father, that is?


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Someday the American people may be cured of their disease..  The world conquest disease

Jorge: Someday you’ll be cured of your disease. The: “I’m so stupid I can’t find my own ass with both hands” disease. Then maybe you’ll learn that simply repeating something over and over doesn’t make it so!


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And Wesley Clark has the same disease as you. Maybe you two could find a clinic?


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Now, people; Jorge is just sticking to the theme of this thread:  He’s spewing propaganda.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on September 18, 2007 at 06:05 am
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Ironically, a film worthy of Goebels.  Blood libel from Dr. Seuss no less.

You could re-issue it under the imprimatur of Daniel Goldhagen on DVD and sell it along with “Hitler’s Willing Executioners.”

You could colorize it, change every “German” reference to “Arab,” and think it was by Daniel Pipes. Especially the “don’t make friends” part.

I am suprised they didn’t blame Tamburlane and Napoleon on the Germans. How did they miss Ariovistus?

chefrad on September 18, 2007 at 10:10 am

a film worthy of Goebels

If you are refering to most of the films issued by Hollywood today, I agree.  You can also toss in the rest of the biased liberal media as well.


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There is no point in telling them truth, they understand only one thing which they will soon get-tatal beating physically-the only language these animals understand. Hitler,who these worship
was wrong about the jews who were only british agents-what Hitler said about jews applied not to jews but to the english(anglo-saxons).race-pity he did not do the the british what should have been done instead. Well It is never too late.

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why blair must be tortured and then killed mericilllessly.

year—1997
Irak is right in demanding ouster of anglo-saxon spies from hollowed Iraki’s soil.In name of uno, and before that leage of friends ,and now Amnesty International, this heyena country called england has installed a lot bof speis all over World and has virtually hijacked Americans to do their domestic and foreign policies for furtherance of british (england’s ) interest than even American ‘s interest.
 

  These days for last few years a lot of Kurdish refugees(who by the way are more aryans than all the europeans combined-though it is irrelevant here)are escaping from Turkey because of Turkish pressure. But nobody has ever stopped Turkey from having her air space nor has anyone bobed them. and why should anyone?Who has given right to a handfull of countries to be a policeman? Could they dare demand such thing at time of so called cold war? Every december,ever since gulf war there is a show of bullying tactics by anglo-saxons in middle east. There is really no ground but excuse is created because this race feels uplifted when others are insultated. Also there is a low cost exercise in bullying any other nation by military postures. Why should Iraq not have weapons as he desires?in 1981, when the israelis had bombed the iraqui nuclear reacto(a few days before going critical) it was britain)govt, and british media) who had vwhemently opposed Israeli daring action and did a lot of anti-jewish propaganda. Atleast Begin had a reason to fear from the arab enemy of israel. even in ‘82 Lebanon war it was britain which was most vociferous in criticizing Isreali militay action at the same time minimizing the Isreali Airforce’s achievement in destroying Bacca’s valley missiles through high tech method.In fact What americans did in gulf war was what Isreali had achieved way back in ‘82 in Lebanon war and America obtained that military know-how from Israelis after Lebanon war. But gulf war is justifiable on basis of military superirity but not Lebanon war. In fact when an american general said that america learned a lot from Israelis’ achievement then the american defense minister Winnberg said that itAmerica learned not from Israeli but from British. Ofcourse we all know that Wnnberg was (awarded sir) more of anbritish defense minister than american one. He was pro-british and anti-jewish (and antirussian and all others aswell). In fact in lebanon war the american foreign secratary was changed because the british did not like Hague’s attitude. This much britain exercises influence in american affairs. Now having installed all the stooges in Arab world britain has discarded her sham veil of Arabists and openly insults(through america ofcouse because on own britain is not even a fourh grade power)the arab world.Talking about the stooge, have you wondered why these days even Yeltsin’s bad health no longer makes any headline news in anglosaxon world?Before any cold that Yeltsin had was niticed and still before that any peon from Russia had a headline news ’ material. The reaon is simple. Britain has installed in Russia not only a mad man likes yelstin but also a second line of stooge successor to him. After Yelstin usefullness is over then he will be replaced by those second line of british stooge who at the moment are already controlling Russia and destroying her everyday. Democracy ,as understood today, basically means any system which gives free hand to britain to exploit other races. If their is one example of what an evil this so called capitalism is and what a saviour communism(britain does not dislike communism, she dislikes other’s prosperity and independence whether it comes from communism, nationalism or what ever)is: this ruinous example of Russia is the real lesson. China is right to hold on to her nationalistic pursuit. It really is a war between anglo-saxons and the rest of the world. It is a race war.Sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it would be and this danger would be sorted out.

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You remember that at the height of cold war in mid 80’s there was a lot of activities of C.N.D. You would expect that with so called cold war finished, this C.N.D. would be asking to the british peoples to leave the nuclear weopons given to her,out of pity and filiaty, by the United states. But exactly opposite happened. C.N.D. has been defunct since than. It is as if that was a front of the british govt. to show by way of propaganda that that country had some moral voice.In other words, C.N.D. was a sham created by the british to give them respectability. Ofcourse when a non-anglosaxon country aould perfect their nuclear weopon,as France rightly did, then there would be a lot of hue and cry by the anglo-saxons’ media. France and china are right in strenghtening their independent military power. The real danger to world comes from england and her anglosaxons agents. France understand that and Germany was a fool in not supporting France in Nato meeting this Summer. Just as Cnd has been proved a sham of british propaganda, more so is the sham which goes by the name of amnesty international. It is interesting that as soon falkland war started, within a few weeks this amnesty international presented a dozier on Argentina. In the same way as soon gulf war started(soon after Iraqui’s intervention in kuwait) the same amnesty international presented a dozier and report on Iraqui’s atrocities. an fact many of the amnesty allegations were just a copy of what british media was saying and which later on proved to be fabrication and great big lies. But bthis did not dent the reputation of amnesty international. british propaganda ensured that. IN ‘88 when Dalia lama,at the height of Tibetan disturbances, visited west, the then british prime minister refused to meet Him. Later on with the demise of Russia and usefullness of China gone and with manipulation to keep power in Hongkong somehow intact, the same british media and government ,like dog, started barking at China. It is interesting that amnesty international selectively targets those very countries(as it did china after cold war) who are out of faviour(because they would not be a brtish sttoge)of the british media and govt. This is not surprizing as amnesty international is the creation of british govt, and british media. england with the most appaling record of human rights in last 200 years of her evil rule, needed some organisation to keep the others from chrging england off her past and current evil practices. In other words it went for aggresive posture in propaganda war so that others can be demoralized and stopped from ponting out the real evil which is england. That is why amnesty international is one armour of the british lies to exploit the rest of the world. Amnesty international must be ignored and an independent human watchdog (which england will simply ignore) created. One purpose of amnesty international is to create an atmosphere for hatred towards the would be vitims of british exploitation so that a victim could be blamed to have deserved the consequences. That is why ,now amnesty international sometimes threatens China, sometimes India and etc. India because india needs to be cowed down and also so that India does not make nuclear wepon and thus feel free from future american(read english and anglosaxon)aggression. This is all to create an atmoshphere of mis information. The other countries are also responsible(out of sheer inferority complex) for giving these instuments of british propaganda so much imporatance. If they simply ignore and then the british lies and then themselves go in offensive(they can do it-no problem)against british exploitation and propaganda then tose countries would not in such dire strait as they are now. Think, this deteriration has happened in only last 20 years(thogh the british have been at this game for a long time but they were not always succesful when others have been vigilant).Ignoring and fighting all this anglosaxons propaganda, the other races(yes it comes to that) must unite and support each other against this common enemy england. The other nations should also go nuclear and assemble as much arm as possible ,collaborate on it and ignoring this anglosaxon race they must be prepared for war which tjhen would be prevented otherwise it would come inevitably. The other nations need to arm themselves to protect themselves from anglo saxon race. Thinking any other way is simply kidding oneself. And it can be done and will be done.


      WE throw a challenge to these low lifes-if the English feel themselves
ao powerful them let them attack and win even Irak(already weaken by u.n.sanctions)without the help of u.n.sanctioins(that means Irak would have same freedom to acquire arms and means and Arabs and Israeli had in thier war)
and with out u.s.a.

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HOW THE JEWS HAVE BEEN USED AND AllOWED THEMSELVES TO BE USED FOR BENEFIT OF PARAISITC ANGLOSAXON RACE.


very true -in fact so called jewish’s lobby” power is a propaganda done by the english race to hide thier nefarious iterference in the american ploicy to uinflunce american domestic and foreing policy for the benefit of england.     

              1999.

how england has used jews for the benfit of english race only and for deliberatily creating disruption in Europe.         

England had threatened israel in 1948 during israeli war of indepdence that england would use atom bomb agaisnt israel unless israel stop ddrowning royal air foarce palnes and pilots who were helping Jordan against israel.
the same england was in upsroar in july 1981 when isrea;l attakced iraq’s nuclear reactor-just check out theier papers of the time
the same ngland was leading charge agasint isreal in june 82 when isreal attacked palestinain terrorists inside lebanon-that was at t time when england was in illegal occupation for malvinas island.
that is short glimpse of how much england and anglosaxon race care about jews and israel.
look at editorails of the times, the newsweek during those crucial perios of june 82 and see how they(the TImes, the gaurdian, BBC, ITV) were suggesting that israel or atleast tel aviv should be bombed.-just chek the british papers and bbc clips from april 82 to august 82.Also check those british bastrds joutrnlism hist in the month of summer 1981 when iraqi nuclear planty was bombed by the isralis and the british were the first-along with iraq -to protest agasint the israeli action.


It is very interesting that the same type of english people(who are anti-communists, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-catolics) started the same sort of propaganda(like used against russians and communists) against The Germans.the Frenchs and Europeans in general. First England did not want germany united(though during cold war it suggested that only Russians are against it). soon after German reunification and even before disintegration of Soviet union ,England changed the lie-tactics(through media and government) against Europe. There is one more thing. nato was supposed to counter warsaw pact, with the latter gone there was no discussion as to nato should be wound uop or not. Europe does not need nato. Europe can have and should have her own defence system as is the Germo-Franco_Italian_Spanish collaboration. that European defence pact must be stengthened rather than germany supporting nato. Actually england needs nato to prop up its nasty influence in military matters. With the help of usa and nato has england been able to prop up her influence. In fact england is ant-Europe and through nato it wants to keep a tab on european affairs and not let Europe get strong on her own. As england can not do this own her own it has let America involved in it(during empire days england hardly shared power with America but it needs America now).

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cotinued—

Germany or Europe does not need nato. In fact nato is the greatest enemy(through england)of germany and europe. How can england be so much anti-Germany,working dso much against German interests and be a major parterner in common defence pact?It is a ludicrous situation. England manipulates financial market(in last8 years through recession and what not london market has risen 3 fold while far Eastern markets-who are the main producers of consumer goods-has fallen drastically.). That is why it pumped up the value of pound before joing european sustem-ofcourse it was unsustainable but for devaluation of pounds the Germans and some jews(as said by bbc) were blamed. As england does not want German or any other European country to get economically strong and be financially independent of london market, it opposed Single currency vehemently.Even a so called left-paper like Guardian was suggesting that if Shroeder(of german spd party) were the chancellor than he would give more say(than others in europe) to England-so it would have been good. In other word they want special treatment for themselves. Why? When they talk of sovereignity is england not the main country pushing, threatning and cajoling the thirld world to accept World bank and IMF(created by america for englands interest) so called structral reform regardless of people’s wishes. If other countries’s destiny can be controlled by bureacrats in IMF. then why not England’s by European’s bureacrats? England is the most bureactic and centralised country in europe with all the regional making machinery smashed by the government with the help of bbc and all other propaganda machinery. And that England talks of local development and burocracy of European commission.Single european currency is a must for Europe not only for european economic advantage and stability but also because it will smash england’s power of financial market manipulation. In Fact the rest of Europe should actively discourage england to join Euro, because then englnd@s financial power will be smashed and it will be good news for Europe and the rest of the world. Not only England want to eat rotten, viral infected meat but also wants to force feed the the rotten thing to the Europeans. When germany resists this nasty move on part of england to take rotten meat ,then germany-already a villain in their eyes -becomes a super villain. As soon as the news leaked out of viral infevted meats, the first reaction of bbc was not as to why it happened but ‘‘Can Europe ban the xport legally?-has it got the right?’‘. there was never a hue and cry about cruel treatment of cows who were forced fed on infected animal meats(cows are vegetarian). This sort of so called commercial farming is the thing which has been pushed down the through of rest of world through GAT. which was made to suit anglo00saxons’ interest.France was right to oppose gat in this form. If the similar thing happened in any other country in the world then this the same british media including bbc would hape said a cruel, primitive practice for rotten meat with no regard for peoples health or animals@ welfare. In fact for showing so much cruelty to animals in this case it is not the animals which should be killed but the peoples(british farmers and their media propagandists). There was and is always a support for such disgusting affairs by the british peoples and it shows what sort of people they are. we will british meat even if it is rotten. in fact there was hardly a influx of foreign meats followinf disclosure. This phenomenan of using rotten british product is not confined to beaf-it extends to everything . in fact protectionism at home and forced infiltration abroad is the name of game in england. And this is the country talking about liberalization. That is why british products,thogh rotten in quality are high in price.

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That is why british products,thogh (sic) rotten in quality are high in price.

Are you a British product, singh?


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Singh is proof that Larouchies are among the stupidest people on the face of the earth.

You’d have to be, to believe that kind of crap.

Ken McCracken on September 18, 2007 at 05:37 pm

Rob, this guy is advocating that Tony Blair be tortured and murdered.

Perhaps a banning is in order here.

Ken McCracken on September 18, 2007 at 05:39 pm

This is the funniest pile-o-crap I done seen in awhile. Brit haters are the UFO nuts of international politics.


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2Hotel9 on September 18, 2007 at 05:44 pm

I wonder if the National Security Agency has perhaps picked up on the rant of Mr. Avatar Singh?


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Bat One on September 18, 2007 at 05:46 pm
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I just don’t get it, at what stage did America decide to goto war against Hitler? Do you think the American people thought for one minute that ‘Hey that Hitler, we better go get him’ before Pearl Harbor happened?

You can call the conspiracy theorists fools saying that Pearl Harbor was set up to get us into the war. But don’t tell me we needed to stop Hitler. Or even worse, that the American people wanted Hitler stopped.

I heard all that propaganda against what an evil man Hitler was, making lampshades out of jew’s skin and all that nonsense, and even the erroneous figures of the jewish deaths and the “Holocaust”

I even heard how Hitler was actually working for the Zionists to create a homeland for them Israel, but if you wanna talk about re-writing history, Americans hated Hitler prior to being attacked by there alias takes the cake.

WETBACK on September 18, 2007 at 06:10 pm
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allies takes the cake

WETBACK on September 18, 2007 at 06:16 pm
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All of you are locked in a selfish, unevolving box of stagnant thought, holding on to the arrogance of
past/present time, afraid of transcendent discovery in the next step of inevitable change through quantum shifts which bring forth infinite, inclusive exploration of freedom and liberation covering the mentality of the whole human family.  You sadly underestimate the humans who have been bullied and brutalized into thinking they are conquered and finished.  Existence is far beyond any fixed position of barbarian rule.  America is a misnomer, and you know it.  How long do you racists/fascists think you can keep riding the back of explosive ideas?  The history of the New World is evidence that the best have been murdered and suppressed.  Henry Ford loved Adolf Hitler, and so did Charles Lindburg.  Yes, ol’ Lindy and Henry loved those who hated the beautiful, colorful planet that was naturally created.  Working slaves are growing up finally, and realizing who are the real enemies of the truly heavenly.  The beat goes on.

Jahhannibal Abba-Ra on September 18, 2007 at 07:04 pm

I just don’t get it, at what stage did America decide to goto war against Hitler?

Roosevelt wanted the USA into the war well before Pearl Harbor but was deterred by a strong isolationist movement that didn’t want us to get invovled with ‘another European war.’  So Roosevelt used the lend-lease program to supply England via Canada with materials and people.  Quite a few Americans joined up with the Canadians so they could get into the fight.


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All of you are locked in a selfish, unevolving (sic) box of stagnant thought, holding on to the arrogance of past/present time, afraid of transcendent discovery in the next step of inevitable change through quantum shifts which bring forth infinite,

What a pretentious , transcendent, quantum, infinite load of crap! It just smells stagnant! ROTFLMAO!


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Proof on September 18, 2007 at 07:15 pm

Go check out Jahhannibal Abba-Ra’s blog if you want to see some really demented ravings. Heh, check out his ‘poetry’:

the nazi
the ustashe
and the stasi
are all parts
of a global cia

loyal
to no one
except a western,
racist
capitalist union

why does this government
attempt to fatten Russia
and starve Cuba?

this government of the
USA (United Socialists of Apartheid)
does not promote the memory
of Joseph Beuys
or Petra Kelly,
who were advocates
of a true democracy

Joseph Beuys was an advocate of a true democracy?  The guy was a Nazi stuka pilot, and then became an impenetrable performance artist.

Sorry, I think Thomas Jefferson had a better idea of what ‘true democracy’ is.

Ken McCracken on September 18, 2007 at 07:20 pm

Ken! I shall never doubt you again. When you write it, they do come. And with a fucking vengeance.


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2Hotel9 on September 18, 2007 at 07:34 pm
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Wow the way this word Nazi is thrown around, what does it mean anymore? Your a Nazi, He’s a Nazi, everybody is a damn Nazi. The Dems are Nazis the Reps are Nazis.

The Jews wore out the word so much, it don’t mean a dang thing anymore. Now me I’m a Nazi smile

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Congratulations Ken, for being able to stay awake through Jahhannibal’s lecture!


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Proof on September 18, 2007 at 07:39 pm

Ken! I shall never doubt you again. When you write it, they do come. And with a fucking vengeance.

Well I can reveal now that Rob and I have been working on a script we put on this post as an experiment, that works on a frequency that the tin foil usually blocks.

I’d say the experiment is a roaring success - it’s bringing ‘em in like bugs to a zapper.

Ken McCracken on September 18, 2007 at 07:51 pm
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I happen to notice the subliminal messages that flash every once in a while here. “War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.”

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