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Monday, June 27, 2005


Powweb Web Hosting Sucks

Hello again. As you can see, Say Anything is back online. Kind of.

The template will be changing, this is just temporary. And there will likely be some bugs until we get everything ironed out, but for now this works.

For those of you who don't know the recent outage was caused by a feud which erupted between myself and my webhost, Powweb. As far as price and bandwidth resources go they're a great company, but when it comes time to get some support from them they're terrible.

What started it all was when they shut my site down for what they told me later was an "abusive script." At the time, however, all I got from them was a one-line email reading "MySQL abuse too many connections." Aside from the subject line, which read "Account Suspension" that was the sum total of information contained in the email.

So I called Powweb and was told by a tech there that there was nothing they could do for me. They couldn't tell me which script had caused the problem nor any of the particulars on the problem itself. They said that all I could do is reply to the abuse email and wait for a response. So I did that and waited.

And waited. And waited.

Thirty hours later I'd had enough. My site was down and I was losing traffic. I called them again and was told, again, that I had to wait for a response. I told them that waiting this long without even knowing what the problem was is unacceptable. I was told, essentially, "Too bad."

So instead of layind down and taking it I put up a static page on my site to get around the MySQL problem and explain to you, my readers, what was going on. I included links to Powweb's support chat room as well as their customer service email and telephone number. Many of you got in touch with Powweb asking for anwers to my problem. Rather than respond by addressing the issue, they deleted my site.

All of my images, all of Say Anything's 5,000+ posts. Everything. Gone.

Luckily I had grabbed a backup of the posts and images before they did it. I still lost my templates, but those can be re-created, which we're in the process of doing now.

After Powweb deleted everything I called them to ask for an explanation. I could understand them not wanting to do business with me in the future. That's a childish response, but certainly their decision. But deleting everything on a whim? That's a bullshit move.

The tech I talked to was pretty smug about the whole thing. He was obviously pretty familar with Say Anything and told me, in response to my question about giving me access to get what I needed off my account, that my "right wing tactics" weren't going to work on them.

I'd hate to say that Powweb's cancelation of my account was politically motivated, but its clear that at least one technician their who worked on my site's hosting holds some biases. Regardless, their handling of my situation was totally unprofessional.

So, in the future, those of you looking for web hosting would do well to steer clear of this company. There are simply too many other hosting companies out there for you to take a chance on going through something I like I've been through in the last few days.

Anyway, I'll be continuing to work on getting Say Anything back to what it was before all of this over the next few days. In the mean time, you could really help me out by donating a few bucks (if you haven't already) to helping me pay for the new hosting package and template design. My blogging budget wasn't prepared for this Powweb debacle and the whole thing has hit me rather hard in the wallet.





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Comments

Avatar for Gabriel Chapman

Powweb over promised their ability to deliver. I posted a critical post on their forums, not only was the post deleted, but my account was banned.

Their mysql problems have existed for over a month. Basic quality of service is non-existant. Easy to serve basic webpages or photo galleries take minutes to load. Support is non-responsive or just says that.

Gabriel Chapman on October 9, 2007 at 01:44 pm
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The owner of PowWeb also owns one of the biggest Armed Assault Hacking/Cheat Websites [TKC] out there totaly destroying a small games devolpers sucsessfull Game.

Unknown on October 27, 2007 at 11:53 am
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I’m sorry to hear your experience with your previous hosting company.

I think the idea of sharing VPS server and splitting the monthly payment say between 5 people is far better than hosting on over crowded servers.

I have been with midphase, siteground, godaddy.

godaddy is useful for domain registerations, i received NO support when I had a hosting account with them, so I cancelled it out.

siteground is funny they used to be strict on many aspects and still are. but they don’t delete websites, yet they have this ‘special’ server for certain websites that take up more? than the allocated space (though I have no idea how) and this special server stuff will make you loose many features that is supposed to be part of the hosting package.

midphase was a bad experience to me , at one point they only had one single mysQl database, enough to freak me up.

all hosting companies are like this, unless u go on a VPS server then ur less likely to face trouble due to bandwidth or other problems concerning data storage.

powweb live help is a crap, it’s like a mail box, u drop in your “help letter” and then you will be requested to say the ‘magic word’ or they will not listen to your problem.

It is likely that these staff will say ‘al right, you will receive email from our help desk’ and then the help desk will be like ‘hmm it seems you need to do things manually’ LOL man these guys are funny.

you go to midphase now they probably treat you like princess, siteground oh yeah you’ll be a VIP, but in any hosting companies, ask the people who have been there, they will tell you lot of hosting tales gone bad.

come to think of it, it’s rather better to have your own server!

CrazyMon on November 20, 2007 at 04:21 am
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Very interesting thread….food for thought.

We have used powweb to host our business site for 10 years now and have very rarely had any problems.  Recently our email was comprimised and the online help walked my wife and I through it.  I don’t know if I’ll switch, I am still satisfied with the service we receive, but I will definitely be more cautious and monitor the service more carefully.  Still, for us it has been a good bang for the buck.

Jon on December 5, 2007 at 11:59 pm
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Does anyone know anything about what’s going on with Powweb now? 

Down all day for you too?

Please drop me a line with any news.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jonathan
strive4impact at gmail

strive4impact on December 22, 2007 at 07:01 pm
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So you were the “too many connections guy” lol!!! MySQL for my site was crap for weeks.

Btw, i understand they cant say wich script is causing trouble, the only see that u have a million connections to the BD, but not from wich script. So, obviusly its supposed you know your site code, not your hosting company…

And im not defending powweb, they tech team suck… like when they changed the BD from UTF to ISO every damn week… but i have to say, that you must be responsible for your bad scripts. wink

HART on December 22, 2007 at 07:08 pm
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I’ve been using Poowweb for two years. I found it very good for speed of access until about 6 months ago, even though my pages have many (properly optimised) photographs. My site now takes forever to access, if at all. Powweb say that there is no problem at their end, and have suggested solutions, that have not improved things in any way. The problem hasn’t been with me as I had changed nothing, and this issue is encountered from other computers with other ISPs and with all browsers. What is telling is trying to access the Powweb main page, which is just as difficult. I have given this company enough time to sort out their shortcomings, and intend changing my web host; which one to choose seems a nightmare. http://www.malvernhostick.com

Malvern on January 3, 2008 at 08:39 am
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Oh man I wish I had seen this before I signed up with them… I am trying to host a PHP based website and it’s slooow.  My question is, if I cancel or switch my hosting, do I get to keep my domain??

Let me know smile

Aya on January 8, 2008 at 08:42 pm
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my website was down with them today (still is) and was down earlier this week. Anyone else had issues? I even went to their website and it was down for a few minutes. Getting frustrated myself.

Ka on January 11, 2008 at 10:28 am
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This is great…I googled “powweb customer service” and this was the 2nd in the listing…after powweb’s actual customer service page.

I’m in the process of cancelling my account with them. They don’t let you cancel online (too easy), so you have to call. I’ve been on hold for 45 minutes with no sign of my call being taken soon. Horrid.

As far as the politics goes, there may be something to it. I read on Little Green Footballs numerous times that they are owned by some Islamic activist groups. Not sure how credible that is, though.

Ugh

Jay on January 13, 2008 at 03:04 pm
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Jay, i had the same problem when i wanted to cancel my previous account on powweb, but you can contact them on email to cancel it. wink

HART on January 14, 2008 at 08:46 am
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Down again today.  WHole site and all pages appear down.

Thoughts?  Suggestions?

Anyone?

Jonathan Kraft on January 19, 2008 at 10:48 pm
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I moved from powweb to gnethosting.net in last november.

affordable web hosting on February 9, 2008 at 07:07 pm
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PowWeb rocks now. My account is with PowWeb more than 1 year. I have never faced any major issue.

Shahid on February 11, 2008 at 05:48 am
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seriously HORRIBLE HOST. i had been with them about 5 years and the last year they just went off the deep end. extremely horrible support team, always phone on hold, problems always arise that you would never encounter on a decent host, sh1t stops working all the time. i finally realized i get what i pay for.. when you are losing serious revenu from your sites, its not worth saving $30 a month

steve roose on February 11, 2008 at 03:34 pm
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Are they still bad or are they good now?

I’m really interested in this.

RT on February 21, 2008 at 04:21 pm
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Really glad I found your blog.  I was considering going with Powweb, but now there is no way I would risk my business with them.  Thank you very much

Celebrity Foods on February 26, 2008 at 05:42 pm
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Down again.  Anyone know anything?

Jonathan on March 7, 2008 at 03:23 pm
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PowWeb is not for n00bs. It is also not for people who do not know PHP, MySQL, or, most importantly, the parts of each that work together in harmony. For a forum, you rarely need more than a few open connections at once. The reason your site was taken down is because you didn’t know how to do this.

{$Prwnzrd_n00b++;}

Chris on March 7, 2008 at 05:35 pm
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To the commenter above, you’re weird.

It’s not just my site that’s down.  All of Powweb is down for Comcast users.

The reason is because Comcast appears to be blocking all connections to Powweb.

For anyone experiencing this issue, you can send a message to Comcast at one (or all) of the following:
(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
abuse [at] att.net
addrmgt [at] qsun.att.com
qhoang [at] att.com

and request that they remove the block.

Here’s the message I sent.

As of approximately 3PM Mountain March 7, 2008, you have blocked access to a company called Powweb, and ALL sites hosted on their servers.

http://www.Powweb.com
IP address   : 65.254.250.20
ISP       : Endurance International Group
Organization : Endurance International Group
Location   :  US, United States
City       : Burlington, MA 01803
Latitude   :  42°50’51” North
Longitude   :  71°20’47” West

This happened once in August of 2007 as well.

This block you have placed on their IP block includes the 10,000+ sites hosted there.

It means that your Comcast customers can not access all of these sites, or, if they are customers of Powweb, it means that they can not access their web site’s email via Outlook or SquirrelMail.

I don’t know what the offending site was that caused this block, but please, look into this matter at your VERY earliest convenience, and clear it up as soon as possible.

Thank-you,

Jonathan on March 7, 2008 at 05:51 pm
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I’m glad that I found this site, mostly because today—March 7, 2008—my sites are down too. That means, as Jonathan indicated, that there is a system-wide problem going on right now.

Powweb is a big disappointment—I once had twelve sites with them, but I’m now down to just one.

I think zero has a nice ring to it!

Matt Keegan on March 7, 2008 at 06:03 pm
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I’m personally with hostgator and have found them to be the best all round webhost that i’ve ever used. Don’t know much about powweb, but i must say that this is the first time i’ve ever heard someone say they suck.

Alam on March 23, 2008 at 11:41 pm
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Powweb is cheap, but the customer service is not good, this is my experience. BTW, there are many alternative out there.

Web Hosting Review on March 28, 2008 at 03:11 am
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i’m sorry to hear this…but now that is going on with Powweb?

free image hosting on April 10, 2008 at 10:45 am
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I’m in complete agreement with you. I got smart and got some screen captures as they were trying to screw me around. They’re on the blog. You should see a trackback from me on this post too.
My post is at:
http://carolinaregion.blogspot.com/2008/05/powwebcom-violates-free-speech_9293.html

Tommy on May 9, 2008 at 08:49 pm

This thread is almost 3 years old.


“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ”

Arthur Schopenhauer

MikeAdamson on May 9, 2008 at 09:09 pm
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I have been a customer of Powweb for over 8 years. In the last two, my site, which has consistently looged more than 1 million per month, has now dopped to around 100,000 per month, plus my forum and my search engine have stopped working, and can’t be fixed. Is it because of the new owners? I don’t know, but suspect it is from the limits they put on their servers. I am moving from Powweb today.

Lawrence Wheeler on May 13, 2008 at 08:50 pm
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I’ve been with Powweb since 2005. Until a year or so ago they were good and efficient. Since then this outfit has been unreliable and unresponsive. My site, on which there have been no real changes, now takes ages to load. The Powweb website itself often takes ages to load too, and its OPS is frequently flakey and un-logonable. Forget their Live Email Help. You pose an issue, and quick as a flash (only thing they are quick at) a pro-forma is presented, and before you can write any reply, they end the chat. This has happened three times in the last two weeks.

Powweb is now the pits and I always recommend keeping well clear. As you might imagine, I am now looking for a new web host, even though I’ve got 12 months to run. I’m prepared to lose the money to rid myself of this incompetent bunch of cowboys.

Jack Slipper on May 14, 2008 at 08:20 pm
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its so suck when our hosting have trouble but the provider not do something early.

jimmis on May 19, 2008 at 08:25 am
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Thank you for this article.. I’ll bookmark it.

stfn on May 22, 2008 at 07:19 am
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Powweb is doing a good job to patch the bug, great service, i hope it continues its work. Keep going.

Preethi on May 29, 2008 at 07:43 pm
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23 powweb is the worst.  i have been working with them since two weeks for Blackberry and web site and emal service.  despite paying 2 years in advance plus so much a month, I have yet to be operational on their website.  I have spoken to every Indian in India, but their response isthey will have TIER 2 to contact me.  TIER 2 has not called for 48 hours of no email service.  I believe that TIER 2 in POWWEB does not exist, or POWWEB is out ofbusiness except for one guy in the US who is receiving all funds and doing nothing for the customer.

Hamilton on June 12, 2008 at 10:57 am
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LOL! Look how slowly Powweb.com loads. If their servers are this sucky for their own official website, how on earth do they expect to handle anyone else’s? Ever since Endurance took over and kept screwing us over, we’ve taken all our sites elsewhere and never looked back.

stfu on June 18, 2008 at 04:33 am
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Wow, amazing post about web hosting. You have expressed some tips for those who are in the same line. Thanks for posting.
http://www.theclickdepot.com/internet-marketing-services.html

James Larson on July 16, 2008 at 10:21 pm
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I was a Powweb customer for a couple years and everything was fine. Then they were bought out by a different hosting company a while back and it went absolutely in the toilet. Not only is their support garbage, but their server request speed also got so bad that my site would time-out half the time for no good reason. I gave them plenty of chances. They even deleted my posts on their forum asking for help (I assume because it shined a light on their issues). I dumped them and good riddance. They are the worst.

Jack Shappa on July 18, 2008 at 01:41 pm
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Go ahead and delete this post if you want because I am adding a positive note about Powweb. I’ve had them as my hosting company since ‘03 and went through their rather large upgrade in ‘05 when this negative post was made. Yes, they had some issues at that time, but were fixed since then. They are by far the best hosting company at the best price and I have three sites hosted by them. Anytime I had problems, I could submit a ticket and it would get resolved anytime between an hour to a few days. I will never switch and will always recommend them to others.

SonarSubs on September 5, 2008 at 01:07 pm
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This is truly a great read for me!! I love the quality information and news your blog provides smile I have you bookmarked to show this to my brother!

Linux Hosting on October 28, 2008 at 08:53 pm
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I’m the furthest thing from a conservative, and they have screwed me over ROYALLY. Did you know that a company is allowed to contract with you indefinitely and charge your credit card at will..even two and three years after you first cancl with them? Powweb is literally a demon.  It’s just a bowl full of demons pretending to be incompetent to wear you down enough so that you’ll consent to unreasonable charges WHEN THEY DECIDE to let you out of your sentence.  These people literally think that once you buy from them, it’s a lifetime contract. STAY AWAY.

Christina on January 11, 2009 at 02:09 pm
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I m feeling bad to here about your previous hosting company experience, you have to play a lot and not get your rated hosting services and its effect to your site and business.

I suggest to choose best and reliable hosting services that are according to your budget and provide you affordable solutions, so please if u like u can visit - Web Hosting Services

Linux Hosting Company on January 28, 2009 at 10:52 pm
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POWWEB ABSOLUTELY SUCKSSSSSSS!!!!!! I apologize for the excessive caps, but POWWEB F-IN SUCKS THE BIG ONE! I would love to spend the rest of my life telling everyone in the world what a big sham this company is. They off unlimited bandwidth and storage but they closed my site down because “it is causing a strain on their servers!” It only gets 200-400 hits a day and I’m using not even 1 percent of my bandwidth. DO NOT OFFER SOMETHING IF YOU CAN’T LIVE UP TO IT!

AND THAT’S NOT EVEN ALL OF IT!! I have been an affiliate with them for 2 years sending THOUSANDS OF HITS through my affiliate link, and even assisted several clients with the signup process WATCHING them type in my referral code… AND NO AFFILIATE COMMISSIONS. NOT ONE!!!

POWWEB F-IN SUCKS DO NOT USE THEM IF YOU PLAN ON HAVING A REAL WEBSITE. The only thing they are good for is NOTHING

i33t.com on April 29, 2009 at 06:37 pm
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Hi, I currently have a huge problem with Powweb I’d like to tell people about and I hope you will let me post it to this page. If have a problem with that, just delete the post. This is something I’ve just posted to my site:

Announcement, Apology and Explanation: Temporary Deterioriation or Disruption in Service while Transferring to a New WebHost

1,000s of Chrysler and GM car dealers received letters this week terminating their relationships with these two companies this week. My webhost went off the deep end as well and they said I had to remove all of the photos, videos and sound files from MadridTeacher.com by Friday, May 15, or else they would delete all of them themselves.

This though the whole moving process for a 27Gb website will take maybe a week or two. Obviously, I have found a new host and am moving MadridTeacher.com there but it’s an incredibly slow process. However, I have no choice but to try delay pointing the DNS/URL to the new host till I get everything uploaded there. I didn’t get a chance to ask for more time, In their response to my request for more information they said “I’m sorry, but unfortunately I can not extend the time allowed; your files will be deleted if you haven’t removed them Friday May 15, 2009.” And I hadn’t even asked the question “can I have more time?” yet. They beat me to the punch. But, I will try by all means possible to upload all of the MadridTeacher.com’s advertisers’ pages, texts, photos, logos, etc. first to minimize any sort of disruption to you. Videos and photos of Madrid, especially, will have to wait till later. I think that most of this first phase is already done, but, in any case, you may unfortunately experience some disruption in services at some point in time while I am troubleshooting this problem, and I can’t be sure exactly when.

As a deeper explanation of the situation, I will simply state that my website’s host for the past 5 or 6 years till May 14, 2009 seems to me to have melted down. (Understandably, this is the beginning of the end of this relationship.) According to entries on their forum: http://forums.powweb.com/showthread.php?p=469795 (they may no longer be there), they gave some or all of the sites hosted there with over 15Gb of harddisk usage 2-3 days till sometime Friday to get rid of all of their videos, photos and sound files (from Wednesday morning) or else they would delete them. At the very least, this is what happened to me. I contacted them via a message from my control panel, but they did not give me a more specific explanation or a clearer response as to why. In fact, they further confused me with a self-contradictory “This is not due to any particular file type or amount of files” in their response.

I confirmed this exasperating situation over the phone with technical support, which absurdly recommended two other websites which I could contract where I could store my files and simply link to them from MadridTeacher. Even my tiny little sound files with vocabulary words such as “yellow,” “red,” etc. for students were to be removed.

My apologies to MadridTeacher.com’s clients for any problems that this host’s breakdown in service quality may cause us, but I was just given no warning and very little time to react. This host used to be truly great and unbelievably they even got to the point where they were offering unlimited bandwidth and harddisk space though in my control panel I actually had a limit on harddisk space - I was using less than 10% of these 300 Gb - and a limit on bandwidth - I was using less than 5% of these 3,000 Gb. The only thing I can happened is that they’ve been caught with their pants down by the deepening recession.
I want to be perfectly clear about this for my clients and visitors’ sake so they will know that I did absolutely nothing to deserve this treatment nor was there ever even an inkling that something like this might happen. These folks, in my opinion, are at the very best clearly behaving in an unprofessional, improper and informal way. At worst, emotionally speaking, other vocabulary words such as “false advertisers” and “shameless scoundrels” also come to mind, but I can’t be sure if they can legally be applied to them due to this situation.

Read more, including their letters here: http://www.madridteacher.com/articles/powweb.com-problems.htm (you have a limit on the number of characters I can place here).

MadridTeacher on May 16, 2009 at 12:16 am
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Wow, another web hosting related horror story. There are hundreds experiences like yours all over Internet for many web hosts, but this surpass everything I have ever read. Personally, I don’t trust web hosting companies that offer unlimited resources (and Powweb is one of them). They cancel your account basically without any excuse and this is enough to stay away from them. If they demonstrate such irresponsibility to a well known website like yours, then what will happen to a webmaster which has a tiny website? How can a webmaster defend himself? The only way is to tell everyone what is happening. Every web hosting company afraids bad publicity and this is unfortunately our only weapon against such irrational actions…

web hosting on June 20, 2009 at 03:18 am
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