Popular Capitalist Filmmaker Makes Film Calling Capitalism Evil And Needs To Be Replaced

Proof • September 7, 2009

Such is the paradox that is Michael Moore. A man who has made millions thanks to capitalistic investment into his various films believes that capitalism is evil.

VENICE (Reuters) – Capitalism is evil. That is the conclusion U.S. documentary maker Michael Moore comes to in his latest movie “Capitalism: A Love Story,” which premieres at the Venice film festival Sunday.
Blending his trademark humor with tragic individual stories, archive footage and publicity stunts, the 55-year-old launches an all out attack on the capitalist system, arguing that it benefits the rich and condemns millions to poverty.
“Capitalism is an evil, and you cannot regulate evil,” the two-hour movie concludes.
“You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy.”

Of course, free markets are democracy. The ultimate form of democracy. After all, no business can survive without voluntary transactions with individual citizens or other businesses/organizations. Bad businesses fail; good businesses flourish. At least, that’s how it is supposed to work. Far too often these days businesses survive not because they provide goods or services that are in demand but because they’ve got the right kind of political friends who keep them in business.
Or they’re “too big to fail.”
But that’s an argument against big government, not capitalism.
As for Moore, since he’s so against capitalism I’m sure he won’t mind if we all download his movie for free from the internet once it hits the usual sources instead of paying to see it in theaters, right? Because paying to see something like this would be evil.
Of coruse, given that last comment, maybe Moore and I agree more than I thought.

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TheTodd:

Pretty sure motion pictures existed in Communist Russia.

LOL.

And freedom of speech to criticize the people in power, right genius?

As Rob said, a movie critical of the state couldn’t be shown in communist Russia. I know that, you’re a very ignorant person and obviously don’t.
Spartacus

Ummm, he means starting with the crockumentary film industry, right???
carrick

AV:

Carrick, ever heard of Glasnost?

Very weak response considering the 60 million or so dead from Uncle Joe.

Nonetheless, how is that Glasnost working out for you?

Russian dissident ‘forcibly detained in mental hospital’–Monday, 30 July 2007

Totalitarianism is alive and well in Mother Russia.
atease

Would he make it out alive if he made the same anti state film in China, Iraq, N. korea, Detroit, or Russia..?

Just asking..

atease
Hoss

I wonder if fatboy will buy more Halliburton (or Eli Lilly) stock with any profit from this little movie.
brain trust

Did he make enough money on his last crockumentary to buy a return ticket from Venice? I certainly hope not.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Mikey wants to be Obama’s Leni Riefenstahl.
mplsbob

I think liberalism has made it to the peak of hypocrisy when one of the top liberals makes an argument that capitalism is bad when all of his money was made from it. If he really feels that passionately, Moore should give all of his money to the government since they know best how to spend it.
Maybe he should start by not charging the heads full of mush who go to his movie. Because charging money would be bad. That’s capitalism.
http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

He’s still filled will all the pathological guilt from his days in the Jesuit Seminary. Who knows what went on there!
TheTodd

What’s funny isthat even though they all claim to hate capitalism it is allowing them to see this movie.

Pretty sure motion pictures existed in Communist Russia.
http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

“Indocumentry” films have existed since movies were invented.
EnigmaCypher

More Liberal hypocrisy. He condemns Capitalism yet contineus to benefit from it.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml Angry Vertebrate

Good on Mike for being so brave if that’s what he believes. With all the free-market fundies dominating the current economic discussion (like their obsession with the deficit) it’s not a fashionable thing for him to say.

I can’t see why it is hypocritical either, it’s not like he has a choice to live in the US and not under capitalism. One’s long-term goals can differ from their short-term pragmatism.

Of course, free markets are democracy. — Rob

You may actually be stupid enough to believe this so here goes an extreme example (because all I have to do is point out that your statement is foolish/incorrect):

Do you think the evil big-govt should regulate NBCs (Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical weapons)?

Why would this be a good idea? Externalities of course. A transaction involving an NBC affects/concerns not just the buyer and seller, but potentially a lot more people. Obviously the many people also affected by the transaction didn’t get to vote, therefore the transaction was non-democratic.

See, you aint free-market now are you? So by your logic you are also anti-democratic. (But since you’re a Republican that is obviously true.)
http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml Angry Vertebrate

Carrick, ever heard of Glasnost?
jimmypop

how big is moores house?
http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

You may actually be stupid enough to believe this so here goes an extreme example (because all I have to do is point out that your statement is foolish/incorrect):

Do you think the evil big-govt should regulate NBCs (Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical weapons)?

Yet this argument makes absolutely no sense. Hell, it’s a non-sequitar, as the premise doesn’t even connect to the point trying to be made.

You’re just so desperate to disagree with the right wingers that you’re not even trying to make a coherent argument anymore.
EnigmaCypher

Carrick, ever heard of Glasnost?

Glasnost didn’t come until the 1980′s. Angry Vertebrate, ever heard of Joseph Stalin?
alanstorm

AV, your posts have so many errors that it’s hard to pick just one, but I don’t have all day. here’s the most obvious:

I can’t see why it is hypocritical either, it’s not like he has a choice to live in the US and not under capitalism.

He doesn’t have a choice? He does not have to live here. He could emigrate – well, he could if any other country was willing to take him. I keep hearing people say how wonderful other countries are, and how horrible the US is, but I don’t see many people leaving.

And, Sparkie,

Michael Moore could make money in Sweden or Canada, could he not? Is that only because of the capitalism in those places?

Yes, he can make money in those places. Even socialist countries have some vestige of markets. I thought you understood nuance, the fact that there no place is purely socialist? Well, North Korea might be close, and look how well they’re doing!
docdave

Michael Moore is evil and needs to be replaced; with a void.
http://vdvfamily.com/ Sphagnum

“You have to eliminate [capitalism] and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy.”

He’s an idiot, because you can’t replace an economic system with a political system. The two have nothing to do with one another.

His 2-hour film conclusion is a non-sequitur! Way to go, you fat bastard! Capitalism has been pretty damn good to you, I don’t see you moving to a Communist country anytime soon…
EnigmaCypher

I don’t see you moving to a Communist country anytime soon…

Yeah, Moore should be deported to Cuba.
http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

Capitalism is not the kind of thing that can be proven right or proven wrong. It is an abstract form, albeit a social one.

More inanities from empty headed leftists.
robert108

Neither “capitalism” nor the free enterprise system needs to be proven right in any other way but by economic success. On the other hand, socialism has always failed.
Free enterprise economics is built on practical human realities, whereas socialism/communism is premised on hypothetical utopian ideology.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml Angry Vertebrate

I can understand that you missed the point Kenny. I forget that conservatives are so ignorant and don’t really understand markets. I’ll simplify.

Pretty much every douche that claims that they are in favor of free-markets really isn’t. There are nearly always some goods or services which they feel the govt should regulate. Regulated markets are not free.

Examples of markets they often like the govt to regulate are:

Drugs.
Marriage licenses (why not deregulate this, let all consenting couples be married).
NBCs (they are a tradable good but would you really want Hamas buying them up?)

Basically no-one is actually in favor of free-markets, at best free-ish. Why? Because of externalities. Drugs can have a destructive effect on society. Bigots don’t want a society with homosexual marriage. And few people want fundies wielding NBC weapons.

I.e. third parties can be negatively affected by trades in a market. Hence markets are not intrinsically democratic.

P.S. And there is obviously pollution which is the textbook example of a negative externality.
robert108

Examples of markets they often like the govt to regulate are:

Drugs. Drugs are illegal, and so there is no legal market for them. “Free market” applies to legal markets. Maybe you think contract murder is a market, as well.
Marriage licenses Marriage is not a product, it’s a human institution.(why not deregulate this, let all consenting couples be married).

P.S. And there is obviously pollution which is the textbook example of a negative externality.

This typical Marxist misperception leaves out the overwhelming advantages of the positive aspects, focusing exclusively on the relatively minor negative effects.
Adults use cost/benefit reasoning.

AV: As usual, you confuse freedom with license, and so just don’t get it. A free market is one that is free from external coercion, and which doesn’t involve coercive transateions, but which has, if it is to be successful, has well-defined rules and moral principles.
In a truly free enterprise system, the integrity of the system, and therefore its success, is produced by the free individuals being morally responsible. With no external coercion, the personal morality of the individuals involved is vital.
As a Marxist, you try to force everything through your utopian ideology, and so fail completely to understand the beauty of the free market.
robert108

That should be “…coercive transactions…”
sayanything-6955

Michael Moore is still fat!!

Love that give a _____ meter there Spartacus! Classic.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

Michael Moore could make money in Sweden or Canada, could he not? Is that only because of the capitalism in those places? I thought those were commie-pinker-socialist locales.

ROb is getting up on some oversimplified, binary, ideological garbage for you drooling masses that consume this drivel. Michael Moore gets off on being whined about by y’all and he’s too big of a douche to enjoy even the amount of attention you’re giving him here.

Capitalism is not the kind of thing that can be proven right or proven wrong. It is an abstract form, albeit a social one.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

I don’t know what’s worse: The poser who will be charging people money to see this thing or all the posers who will be paying money to see it.

What’s funny isthat even though they all claim to hate capitalism it is allowing them to see this movie. Complete with climate control and surround sound and all the snacks they can handle.

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