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Monday, July 23, 2007

Pope Mouths Empty Rhetoric About Ending All Wars

Pope Benedict the XVI is calling on the world to “end all wars.”

LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy - Pope Benedict XVI called Sunday for an end to all wars, describing them as “useless slaughters” that bring hell to Earth.

Benedict, speaking from this small mountain town where he has been vacationing, recalled that 90 years ago his predecessor Pope Benedict XV urged a similar end to the first World War, then ravaging this part of northern Italy.

“While this inhuman conflict raged, the pope had the courage to affirm that it was a ‘useless slaughter,’” Benedict said. “These words — ‘useless slaughter’ — contained a fuller prophetic value that can be applied to so many other conflicts that have cut off countless human lives.”

Benedict did not cite any particular conflicts in his comments to several hundred faithful who gathered in Lorenzago di Cadore’s main piazza for his traditional Sunday blessing.

“From this place of peace, where one still senses how unacceptable the horrors of ‘useless slaughters’ are, I renew the appeal to pursue the path of rights, to strongly refuse the recourse to weapons and refuse to confront new situations with old systems,” he said.

Most anti-war types subscribe to this kind of naive, “if we stop fighting we’ll have peace” reasoning.  Nobody likes war, but ending it isn’t as simple as refusing to engage our enemies on the field of battle.  Ending war means defeating our enemies, pure and simple, because if we don’t defeat them they’re going to keep fighting us whether we respond to them or not.

Think about it.  If we stopped fighting in Iraq, do you think the terrorists would stop trying to turn that country back into a dictatorship?  Or into some sort of extremist religious state?  If the Israelis stopped fighting the Palestinians, do you think Hamas would really quit the suicide bombings?  Would they stop trying to wipe the Jewish state off the map?

Again, ending war means winning the war and defeating those who oppose you.  It also means being willing to condemn those who oppose you as evil or wrong, which is something we seem to have a serious problem with these days.  During WWII we didn’t have any problems identifying our enemies as evil even before the atrocities committed against the Jews were revealed to the war.  WWI before that was the same.  But it seems that since Vietnam forward there’s been a demographic in this country that seems incapable of admitting that we, America, are right and our enemies are wrong.

Which isn’t to suggest blind loyalty, but rather a departure from the idea that our enemies are always fighting us because of something we’ve done to them.

Wars aren’t fought simply because people like to fight.  Wars are fought for power and money, and they aren’t avoided or ended simply by refusing to fight.  Unless we’re willing to let those who fight against us gain power over us, we have to fight.

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I think you’re taking it too defensively as if he’s talking only to just us.

Ever been in the middle of a brawl between 2 people who want to beat each other. If you’re on the sidelines, you can cheer them on, do nothing, or be a man and run out there and try to stop it. And that’s where the Pope is at.

naive, “if we stop fighting we’ll have peace” reasoning

That’s not naive, that’s the truth. If EVERYONE did stop fighting, there WOULD be peace. Who better than the Pope, who is essentially nation neutral, to speak out for peace. If he doesn’t speak for peace, who can?


Why should we have less abortions if you’re not really killing someone?

george on July 23, 2007 at 07:59 am

Will, it only takes one side to fight, which is Rob’s point.  If you don’t fight in a street brawl and your opponent does, not only will you get the sh*t kicked out of you, he’ll be much more likely to go after you in the future (soft target).

Carrick on July 23, 2007 at 01:24 pm
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Carrick has it right, will. Of course if “everyone” stops fighting we’ll have peace, but that’s a pipe dream.  We don’t live in a utopia, and since we don’t we have to be willing to identify and fight against that which is wrong or evil.

And it seems like we’re having a lot of trouble doing that these days because we’re all so hung up on moral relativisms.


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Rob on July 23, 2007 at 01:32 pm

If you don’t fight in a street brawl and your opponent does,

That’s precisely where the confusion lies. The Pope is not speaking out against self defense. The Pope has a duty to speak on behalf of peace, and that’s what he’s doing.

I read his message as if intended for Islamic Extremists as much as it’s intended for Iraqis or even us.

The Pope is reminding us all of how to conduct ourselves as humans. He’s not just going to sit there and watch war go by. And I’m glad he doesn’t.


Why should we have less abortions if you’re not really killing someone?

george on July 23, 2007 at 02:22 pm
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Most anti-war types subscribe to this kind of naive, “if we stop fighting we’ll have peace” reasoning.

How is that naive? If human beings stopped fighting, there’d be peace; that’s pretty much the definition.

I think your confusion lies in your refusal to accept that there are people in this world who are not Americans.

Dave on July 23, 2007 at 06:19 pm
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