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I think it’s fair to say that most Americans are putting national security ahead of civil liberties absolutism.

Since these are, of course, the only two choices.

And therfore that makes what the Bush administration is doing to the Constitution okay?

Sorry.  Those Americans have (pardon me while I put on my tin foil hat) fallen into the web of decit and lies perpatrated by the Bush administration as well as all of Congress (Dems and Reps).

This poll tells me that Government (again, Dems and Reps) has successfully taken American’s brains from them and replaced a “government approved” thinker.

The only thing this poll shows is exactly how a state our country really is in and how horribly bad they have been duped.

Perhaps if those on the Left had something a bit more substantial to offer besides shrill accusations… proof that a real person’s real civil rights have been violated by Bush administration national security policies might be helpful… or a demonstration that someone who actually enjoyed the right of habeas corpus four years ago no longer has that right today.

Without some actual proof, this amounts to just one more tedious little leftist accusation, and it should be obvious by now that the American people are getting pretty inured to those.

Since these are, of course, the only two choices.

No claim of that was made.  It seems to be the preference, that’s all.  Can’t you tell the difference?

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

And therfore that makes what the Bush administration is doing to the Constitution okay?

Once again, we hear from a “smart” leftie that the American people don’t know what is going on, and should leave it to the leftie elite to tell us what to do.  Typical leftie arrogance and disrespect for “the proletariat”.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

What the poll tells me is that (slightly) over a third of the American population feel that their rights are in jeopardy.  While not a majority it is hardly insignificant. 

I wish there would have been a fourth option for the people polled to choose from:

d) I do not actually know anything about any of the policies that you are talking about.  I feel that my rights are just fine, or that they are being encroached upon, although I don’t actually know why or how.

How much do you want to bet that each and everyone of that third voted for John Fing Kerry?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Whistler,

No Bet.

Folks, this is hooey.

Far from being a grab of executive power or an undermining of the Constitution, what we have here is an attempt to conduct a war in accordance with the customary laws of warfare and thus keep the whole mess out of our court and legal systems.  That is a brilliant compromise that works both to the disadvantage of the terrorists and to the advantage of our civil liberties.

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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

RG: And to the disadvantage of the lefties in this country, who want us destroyed.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

The only violations of civil rights that I know of are going on in Fargo under the guise of door to door, unannounced “sump pump inspections.” (:^(

What’s that Kevin.  I hadn’t heard about anything like that.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

It was started two years ago by the previous mayor and city council.

So what they’re concerned that you’re pumping your groundwater into the storm sewers? 

They can come do an inspection without being welcome?

What’s the penalty?

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

None yet. But since most residents are renters, they know they can get away with it.
I asked the State’s attorney about it and they replied they aren’t interested in enforcing civil rights and I should hire an attorney if I had a problem with it.

When a reasoned discussion of the purported abrogation of Americans’ civil rights by Bush Administration national security policies descends into a question about sump pump inspections, I get the sense that the partisan bilge being spewed out by the Left just isn’t being taken all that seriously.

Perhaps a more pertinent civil rights issue would be how all our votes are diminished in value by every ballot cast by a dead urban Democrat.  If it takes a picture ID to buy a six-pack, cash a welfare check, or apply for Social Security, food stamps, or Section 8 housing assistance it certainly isn’t unreasonable to require the same ID for voting.

Bat: Right on!  When I registered this year, I demanded to show my picture ID. Let’s all start a trend!

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Robert108,

As you know, Georgia’s nascent Voter ID statute was shot down by a judge (which is why Republicans MUST control the Senate!).  Yet poll workers at my voting precinct require picture IDs for both primaries and general elections, local or national.  My neighbor, who has volunteered for this work for years, says he has yet to receive a complaint.  He just smiles smugly each time I pass by to vote.

Ok first off, this poll size is ridiculously small.  How is it even fair to suggest that the “Vast Majority Of Americans” or 1,013 in CNN’s terms are satisfied.  If CNN hosted the poll, I would assume (please correct me if I’m wrong) the VAST MAJORITY of the polling audience would be under a similar bias as CNN itself.

Starting with the glorious Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001.

Uniting and Strengthening?!  Right…

“..more than 1,000 Muslim men who have been secretly jailed, many of them secretly deported without having been linked to terrorism.” Innocent until proven guilty?  or Guilty, period.  Every American should have EQUAL rights.  Therefore when someone else gets taken advantage of, you’re taking advantage of the system, the system EVERYONE is protected by.  How is this not an infringement of civil liberties.

Nick: I think even US citizens, if they work to support terrorism in any way, have lost their citizenship rights.  “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.” You seem to fear that these tactics might be used against regular Americans who aren’t involved in terrorism; do you have any proof at all of that, or is it just another version of the “bogeyman in the closet”, childhood fear?

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Ok first off, this poll size is ridiculously small.  How is it even fair to suggest that the “Vast Majority Of Americans” or 1,013 in CNN’s terms are satisfied.

That’s a pretty standard sample size for media polls.  That’s the same sample size, in fact, that’s being used in all sorts of polls to indicate that Dems are ahead in the election.

I don’t like polls either, Nick, but when the results are this one-sided the conclusion to draw is obvious.

I think you’re just grasping at straws.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Or at straw men.

"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

Even the State of “Diebold Stole the Election From John Ketchup” Ohio is requiring photo IDs to vote this year, and the Republic still seems to be surviving!

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.