Poll: 51% Of Republicans Would Rather Have A Minority In Congress Than RINOS

And you can count me as being firmly in that 51%.

The poll indicates that a slight majority, 51 percent, of Republicans would prefer to see the GOP in their area nominate candidates who agree with them on all the major the issues even if they have a poor chance of beating the Democratic candidate. Forty-three percent of Republicans say they would rather have candidates with whom they don’t agree on all the important issues but who can beat the Democrats.
Democrats polled seemed to place a slightly higher priority on electoral victory: 58 percent say that they would like their party to nominate candidates who can beat Republicans, even if they don’t agree with those candidates on all the issues. Fewer than 4 in 10 Democrats say they would rather see their party nominate candidates who agree with them on all major issues, but have a poor chance of beating the Republican candidate.
“One reason for the difference between the parties: the Democrats have a relatively even split on ideological grounds. Thirty-four percent of Democrats are liberal, 40 percent are moderates and less than one in four call themselves conservatives,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
By contrast, 73 percent of Republicans questioned in the poll say they are conservatives, with only 26 percent describing themselves as liberal or moderate Republicans.

Everyone treats this like a “what comes first the chicken or the egg” debate.
We have political parties for the purpose of advancing a certain political agenda. You can’t advance that agenda if you don’t win elections. But, at least according to some, you can’t win elections if you don’t vary from that agenda to some degree.
So conventional wisdom is that ideological rigidity leads to marginalization.
Now, I understand pragmatism. I understand that any national political party is going to have a level of variance in ideology. But there are certain basic things that the party stands for, and if certain given politicians aren’t going to stand for those things than we are, frankly, better off without them.
Better to win elections on as cohesive a platform as possible than to win elections by just doing whatever we think it takes to get elected at the moment. The latter may work well in the short term, but in the long run the former builds lasting majorities.
I’d much rather educate the public as to why things like individualism and free markets work and are the best way of doing things than to cater to their whims.

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  • http://Array sayanything-106

    The guys isn’t a GOPer so he needs to be defeated and is of little use to the Republicans.
    I think Republicans should act like conservative not dumbocrat light.

  • I don’t like today’s GOP

    Shocker, 100% of Democrats agree.

  • sayanything-203

    Sparkie,

    If you can manage to cite a single instance when I have used either “death panels” or “Maoism” by all means post it. I’m betting you can’t do it.

    What you have done, to use a colorful, southern colloquialism, is let your mouth overload your ass.

    As I said earlier, things haven’t change much here in my absence.

  • sayanything-203

    Sparkie,

    Your “political Paris Hilton” mot apparently wasn’t noteworthy the first time you used it. Why bore everyone with a second helping?

  • sayanything-203

    Gene,

    Thank you for the kind words. Autumn is my favorite season of the year, but it also carries some personally painful memories. I needed the recess.

    I see that nothing much has changed in my absence. The Obama administration is still demonstrating an appalling lack of knowledge, judgment, and experience, while its supporters cling to their ignorance with weapons-grade determination.

  • I don’t like today’s GOP

    Seriously?

    Sure, I come off as a wild eyed lefty, but really do envy the organization that the conservatives have manufactured. However, I do not like what the GOP has become. It’s too full of hypocrisy, hate, and wrong minded economic policies.

    I agree very strongly with a lot of the same things as real conservatives. However, the majority of my principals mesh better with the democrats. Until you purge the moderate republicans, there will be no viable middle/moderate party.

    For instance, I am a big supporter of 2nd amendment rights, but I will never take a class, join a club, or buy a product that requires or grants nra membership. I will never give them a dime, because they have become too involved with right-wing activism.

    I support the aclu because they support liberty. I support them even though they have sided with despicable characters like Sean Hannity and much worse.

    I don’t necessarily rejoice in every democratic victory, but I do in nearly every far-right defeat. I have voted for Hoeven for governor, but will never vote for him for national office, because he will become a tool for the far-right.

  • sayanything-3960

    I am surprised it is not higher. It is a ridiculous question.

    The problem is that you can’t agree on who a RINO is.

    Many thought McCain was one, but I am betting 51% don’t think he should be thrown out of the party.

  • sayanything-203

    Hardly a surprise. Conservative Republicans, unlike our liberal brethren, are ones who take their principles seriously.

  • sayanything-7715

    Hey Bat, i don’t blog much. But I noticed you had not been around, Missed seeing your logic and reality responces.

  • I don’t like today’s GOP

    I wouldn’t say that, but I have learned one thing from you guys. It’s easier to dislike and criticize, than to promote and have ideas.

    Look at you and your Palin coverage. You don’t have the guts to promote her for president, but you are happy to slam everyone who reports on her so you can play the right-wing martyrs card. Boo hoo everyone is against us.

    I, like you, am willing to fight against forces that are detrimental to my country. To oppose the right wing movement, to be specific. However, unlike you, I am willing to back certain candidates and proposals, not just ideologies.

  • sayanything-106

    I saw we purged the swamp.

  • sayanything-42

    Is it a win for the GOP to elect someone like, oh, Arlen Specter?

  • sayanything-203

    So what you’re telling me is that you’re confused and you’ve really got no idea what’s going on.

    A generous understatement.

  • sayanything-203

    Sparkie,

    For someone with your purported education, you have an appalling habit of slovenly rhetorical imprecision. If you mean to accuse someone of something (me included) don’t you think you have some modest obligation to use accurate, factually correct examples of that which you are decrying?

    Once more… if you can manage even one instance when I have used either of the terms you cited above as examples, then please post it. If not, then my colorful southern colloquialism stands.

  • sayanything-42

    Then why is your party, which he is now a member of, running a primary challenger to him?

    And thank you for signing your work “assclown.”

  • sayanything-106

    So wouldnt Barry O be a big fat victim too? You can’t disagree with him without being called a racist or a bigot. I doesn’t matter if you hate his socialist views and agenda.

  • jimmypop

    good. now, we need to move that % up and get the gop back to the greatness it once had.

  • lock’em’up

    I guess you don’t believe in basic human decency for Democrats. I get it.

  • Brent

    “So what you’re telling me is that you’re confused and you’ve really got no idea what’s going on.”

    LOL

  • sayanything-81

    I think to be a republican you need to want the Republican party to win elections. Hence being a republican. If you want them to loose elections, you might not be a republican.

  • sayanything-81

    Bat TWO
    It’s my new meme. How many times have you defiled the intellect of me and all your friends by chiming in to laud the use of memes like ‘death panels’ and ‘maoism’ when liberally applied to any number of phenomena which you wish to stigmatize instead of engaging, debating, or thinking about? Pray, do tell.

    At least my “political Paris Hilton” meme is 100% correct and has but one application. It’s not like the memes you guys use where every bird flying overhead (and all other things) is a portent of “death panels” and “maoism”. Sorry to bore you but at least I am not defiling your mental space with meaningless namecalling.

    Ciao.

  • sayanything-81

    I don’t like
    makes a very good point about Palin and the victim card. That’s all she offers the GOP at this point, a big fat victim card. Aside from that, as I have observed elsewhere, she is merely the political version of Paris Hilton.

    Say some positive things about her other than “she’s hot”. President? No one in their right mind would endorse her for President.

    The GOP has become the victim party. They used to have keen arguments against victimology, but they have become hyper-victims themselves. All screeching and fury amounting to nada.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    its about principles. Are election victories an end unto themselves?

  • sayanything-81

    DA WIZ
    How long were Arlen Specter and Jim Jeffords republican senators? 40+ years combined? Yea. I’d say that’s a win for the GOP, assclown.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    So what you’re telling me is that you’re confused and you’ve really got no idea what’s going on.

  • sayanything-81

    Bat
    Do you acknowledge that it is meaningless name-calling and want no part of it? That seems to be the tenor of your response.

    I am not fan of southern colloquial maxims, but I am a fan of reading.

    Why do I have a burden to put those words in your mouth when my post accuses you of “chiming in to laud the use of memes”, e.g. showing positive support for posts heavily tainted by them. The second use of “you”, in the second paragraph, clearly reads “you guys”. Guilt by association is a b*tch, but you are one of “you guys”.

  • sayanything-3174

    I don’t like today’s GOP
    For instance, I am a big supporter of 2nd amendment rights, but I will never take a class, join a club, or buy a product that requires or grants nra membership. I will never give them a dime, because they have become too involved with right-wing activism.

    Of course they have. The reason for that is most politicians who support the 2nd A are right wingers and most politicians who suck gun control dick are lefties.
    Like it or not the NRA is protecting your gun rights.

  • sayanything-81

    It would stand if I had claimed those memes came from your mouth/keyboard. But, as indicated by a quick review of my claim, I maintained no such thing.

    Your demand is cute, but we have moved on from proofs to namecalling. Didn’t you get the memo? The critics of Derrida and the ultra-left, viz. you guys, are defiling the language more than those lightweights could ever manage.

    Props for your ‘scorched earth’ tactics, but soon it will erode your own abilities to express yourselves as a group. What’s that? It already has? I’ll be dammed (really, I wasn’t baptized).

  • sayanything-1317

    Why is she the equivalent of Paris Hilton? She’s not shown any massive stupidity nor is she a whore. Nor is she famous simply because of her last name.

    She worked her way up through politics. She was a mediocre mayor, and then a fairly decent governor with an exceptionally high approval rating that most governors would be jealous of.

    What’s the similarity?

  • sayanything-1317

    OK, I’ll take this one. Just because I don’t think someone is the best choice for President doesn’t mean I want her personally destroyed. Just because I don’t support Palin as candidate doesn’t mean I can’t be appaled at the downright disgusting sites put up to mock her Down Sundrome son or the coverage given to Levi Johnston to hurt her daughter.

    It’s called basic human decency.

  • sayanything-693

    So 51% of Republicans would rather have no country than an imperfect country. Staunch idealists are very smart people…

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