Poll: 68% Of Conservatives And 70% Of Tea Partiers Oppose Cuts To Medicare To Balance The Budget

Everybody wants a balanced budget. Nobody wants their particular ox gored.

A new McClatchy poll brings some bad news for Republicans in light of the House’s vote to adopt Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R., Wis.) budget proposal last week, which includes politically risky reforms to Medicare. According to the poll of registered voters, 80 percent oppose cutting Medicare and Medicaid to reduce the deficit, including 68 percent of self-identified conservatives and 70 percent of Tea Party supporters.

Granted, respondents aren’t asked to decide whether they would rather “reform Medicare for future retirees” (per the Ryan plan) or “do nothing and watch Medicare go bankrupt in nine years” (the ‘reelect Obama in 2012′ plan). But these results, which are consistent with those of similar polls, further underscore the momentous challenge facing Republicans as they attempt to sell Ryan’s plan to skeptical voters and limit the efficacy of Democratic demagoguery

By the way, the poll also indicates that 65% of voters – including 45% of conservatives/tea partiers – would support increasing taxes on those making more than $250,000 per year to balance the budget. So, in addition to the “gore someone else’s ox” position this is the “spend other people’s money” position.

Meanwhile, this is the level of discourse on Medicare and Medicaid cuts we’re getting from the Democrats:

I’ve said before that it may take an actual collapse of this nation’s finances before the public is awakened from stupid notion that we can balance the budget without cutting entitlements or by just taxing the rich.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Neiman

    Isn’t that because the falsely see cuts in a reorganized social security and medicare system that protects seniors and provides actually much higher benefits over time for those in a newer privatized system?

  • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

    The evidence available from observing individual human behavior, as well as the events of history, assure that collapse will be necessary. Sorry.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I’m finding it hard to disagree.

    • Jamermorrow

      I agree hyper inflation is on the way.

  • robert108

    Most of this is created by people who seek to inflame others to get their ideological agenda across. There are no “cuts” to Medicare in general, and Pelosi lies that Republicans want to end Medicare. Given the wrong information, people will answer poll questions as they did in this poll, but the truth lies elsewhere. All govt programs are inherently insolvent, and if allowed to grow unchecked, will threaten our economic security.

  • Independent

    Why do well to do people even get medicare and social security? I hate welfare, but welfare for the middle class and rich is almost as offensive as corporate welfare.

    • Independent

      The title of this article should be “Republicans and Tea Party supports welfare”.

  • borborygmi

    So now you don’t support the will of the people? I will bet that these polls used false data or some such bs to support your viewpoint.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4RKUEHF3NG2Z32RT4B5A3Y7HUE Kenny

    And this is why “fixing” our society is impossible. People want what they want. It doesn’t matter that delivering will destroy our nation…they still want it.

    Our country is on its last legs. Collapse is inevitable.

  • borborygmi

    the efficacy of Democratic demagoguery……. 70% of tea party …… Possibilities, Tea Party supporters are weak minded, Tea Party are hypocrits or really don’t believe Conservative demagoguery, Conservative demagoguery is ineffiecient….or they are just plain looking out for themselves and a balance budget is good but they don’t want to pay their fare share thus they are what they hate or man the Democratic demagoguery is subliminal and they just don’t know it. Sneaky Dems. One of the planks of Conservatism is to take personal responsibility…….yep blame it on the “efficacy of Democratic demagoguery” way to take responsibility

  • DopeyDem

    Another BS poll trying to get people to think the Tea Party is in disarray.
    Now liberals call themselves conservatives when the pollsters call up.
    This is no different than how we got stuck with John McCain.

  • sbark

    Once again discussing a symptom of the Main Liberal problem here…..

    Human nature, as mentioned takes entitlements, welfare and handouts ………and wants more. Its Why the French economist told our founders 235 yrs ago that this democracy is doomed due to entitements…..

    Once again the main problem is not expecitng Liberalism to Fail….Liberalism requires no thinking, no ideas—just taking the easy route and spending other peoples money……

    We have FDR created world coming down around our ears…….it will take a market clearing action like default on T Bonds ……or else go thru the moderate cycle of inflation, a hump down into deflation and the 3rd cycle of Hyperinflation……much more painful, than decline the raise to debt ceiling, force a default on the TBonds……

    Its why Bill Gross of PIMCO got totally out of TBonds…and then actually shorted them….he sees it as the logical thing to do………

    • robert108

      We need a mass firing of the liberal autocracy that actually runs this country, the govt employee unions. They are the big money hole in everything, including SS and Medicare. The few actually necessary social programs could be cut 75%, and would actually function better.

  • Atlanticsup

    maybe we cant afford to spend all we want on defense..what the rest of the world spends combined is not what we spend..What if we cut defense spending? What are we afraid of? Clinton reduced defense spending, had a moderate tax increase, and then ran a surplus..he was the best republican we ever had..

    • sbark

      cough cough……..Clinton had nothing to do with a budget surplus……..Newt Gingrich shoved 5 budgets back at Clinton until he presented one that worked, and as Cato.org points out it was as much to do with the Reagan Tax Cuts economic engine as Newt even.

      Clinton —even a blind squirrel finds a few nuts, and Clinton found his in the W.House cloakroom.

    • robert108

      Clinton ignored AQ after the first WTC bombing in ’93, ignored multiple terrorist attacks all over the world, cut our military and intel to get a fake “surplus”, then after he left a mess, we got 9/11 and unprecedented Islamic terrorism all over the world.
      Let’s not make that same mistake again.

    • Neiman

      To set the record straight – Reagan built up our military, spending like a drunken sailor, to drive the Soviet Union into an economic collapse, which he did and thereby he ended the Cold War without firing a shot. The end of that constant tension and constant military growth was the ability to start drawing down and closing quite a few bases, dragging big pork Democrats squealing like pigs; which Clinton was able to take advantage of and along with Newt shoving it down his throat big time, with a GOP Congress fighting him, Billy Jeff was able to brag about and economy he had nothing at all to do with. Like 108 said, unfortunately Billy Jeff who never served or risked his life for America, like Barry, drew the military and our intelligence services down too far and then 9/11!

      Got it now?

      • Jt568nb

        Hmm, i got that your reading of history is out of whack. Everyone agrees that the deficit is a problem and your buddy Reagan began that unfortunate era of our history. I agree that Clinton was a lucky recipient of Bush 41, who was our last president that had enough courage to do something politically unpopular for the good of country.

        On another note, your post contradicts itself unless I’m misreading it. You say that the end of the Cold War allowed us to cut military spending then criticize Clinton for doing exactly that. Which is it?

  • SigFan

    If we could eliminate the wasteful and fraudulent spending, duplicated programs, pork barrel spending and freebies to the public unions we might be able to salvage Medicare and SS without having to drastically cut them back. The reality is that we simply do not have the money and cannot raise the money to sustain things as they are. Cuts to defense will not be enough, there aren’t enough of those evil rich people we can penalize and the fools in DC are never going to cut their pet projects and agencies. As Flamemeister and Rob point out, it will take total collapse for people to wake up and realize that this is no longer a debating point, if we are to save the country from years of misery it is an absolute necessity. Collapse, chaos and misery for years, or make the hard choices needed now (and it may already be too late).

    • http://twitter.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

      The budget situation is so dire, however, that Medicare and Social Security in their current form and composition cannot survive. Everything will have to take cuts or zero-fundung, even these two programs, in one way or another…such as raising the eligibility age to 70. Medicare and SS cannot be realistically expect to be zero-funded, but cuts will have to be made…they should be in overhead first, granted.

      It’s going to be painful, and lots of people will be upset, but it’s necessary to save the republic. It is not too late, but the day of reckoning is coming.

      I do resent that this was branded as conservatives and TPers (although I consider myself independent); this thought probably transcends the political spectrum.

      • Jamermorrow

        What will happen is the dollar will continue to lose value. People will get their social security checks but they won’t be able to buy anything with it. Price controls are on their way this will create huge shortages. Those on Medicare and Medicaid will have to deal with the shortages.

  • Topgun

    No one has actually submitted a balanced budget for over 31 yrs and the haggling just
    continues until the whole system crashes as it will and should, I say the sooner the
    better!!!

  • reality

    IDIOTS,the millionares and billionares can afford medical payments and don’t really need social security .I bet they will still take advantage of both when there time comes. I don’t see too many Republican supporters burning their social security and medicare cards.

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