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Planned Parenthood, Supporter Of “Reproductive Rights”, Solicits Mother’s Day Gifts - For Itself

Would someone send them a Webster’s dictionary so they can look up the definition of “irony”, please:

(CNSNews.com) - Planned Parenthood, a major abortion provider, is soliciting Mother’s Day gifts for itself.

In a May 3 e-mail blast, Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s president, Cecile Richards, asked recipients to “Make a Mother’s Day Gift” by donating to the organization - a solicitation that some critics say is ironic given that many Planned Parenthood clinics perform abortions.

The e-mail reads:

“Dear Friend, Join us! Make a Mother’s Day gift. My daughter, Hannah, recently wrote this for a national magazine:

‘I was raised by strong women. My mom, Cecile Richards, fights daily for women’s reproductive rights and social justice as president of Planned Parenthood. It’s a legacy she got from her mom (my late grandma), Ann Richards, the former governor of Texas. I’ve learned that the most rewarding battles in life are those waged for something you truly believe in.’ ...

“… As Mother’s Day approaches, I am grateful for the opportunity to make a difference and hope you’ll join me. Happy Mother’s Day.”

I’m. Just. Speechless.

Zip over at Weasel Zippers sums it up succinctly:

This is the equivalent of Auschwitz wishing Jews a happy Yom Kippur

Comments

Pilgrim, You think you are speechless? Think about the millions of aborted human “fetus” that never had the chance to speak up when their “Mother’s” decided to exercise their Reproductive Rights?

Zsa Zsa on May 11, 2008 at 07:56 am

Is their a politically correct word for “mothers” of aborted babies? (fetus)

Zsa Zsa on May 11, 2008 at 07:58 am

selfish feminist liberalism

Mickey on May 11, 2008 at 08:35 am
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This is the equivalent of Auswitch wishing Jews a happy Yom Kippur

Because people with different political views are Nazis!!!
todd on May 11, 2008 at 09:12 am

todd, It is one thing to have different political views and quite another to make Abortion into a political issue!

Zsa Zsa on May 11, 2008 at 09:25 am

Because people with different political views are Nazis!!!

Boy! Just when you think todd couldn’t be any more dense, he puts on a sprint towards the wire!
Here’s the analogy for the intelligence impaired (and you know who your are, todd!):
Planned Parenthood, responsible for the killing of millions of babies, celebrating a holiday surrounding the giving of birth, would be like the Nazis, (separate and totally unrelated to Planned Parenthood) who were responsible for the killing of millions of Jews, to celebrate a Jewish holiday.

Follow it now, genius?



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on May 11, 2008 at 10:30 am
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The request for donations becomes less ironic when one considers that Planned Parenthood is best known for abortions, but it doesn’t only do abortions.  It also provides sex ed, birth control and general reproductive health services.  In some places, it is the ONLY provider of reproductive health services.  Mothers need their checkups the same as other women.

DRF on May 12, 2008 at 06:06 am
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Follow it now, genius?

Proof, we all understand what you’re saying.

The problem is that what you are saying is bone-crushingly stupid.

jack on May 12, 2008 at 06:23 am

The problem is that what you are saying is bone-crushingly stupid.

Just trying to relate to you on your level, jack. I take it the “bone” being “crushed” is the one between your ears. You know...the thick and impenetrable one! It is the pain you feel in trying to wrap your bonehead around such common sense comments that causes you great pain, that you interpret as “crushing”.
It is your arguments that are being crushed, not your bone head. Get it, genius?
BTW, is your last name ”Off”?



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on May 12, 2008 at 06:54 am
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BTW, is your last name ”Off”?

Dick jokes. Timely.

Hey, you know any jokes about farts?

Todd on May 12, 2008 at 10:02 am

Abortion has existed since ancient times. It is as old as prostitution. It should only concern those that practice it. It it between them and their God.
The rest of you ( pro and against abortion) should buzz off! Let God judge them.

ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 10:15 am

Another false equivalence; prostitution doesn’t require killing innocent babies.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 10:48 am

The rest of you ( pro and against abortion) should buzz off! Let God judge them.

Of course God is the judge. He will judge those who condone abortion and those who condemn abortion.
Those who ignore the fact are guilty of condoning it, but ellinas, if you prefer to be ignorant of others wrong doing in God’s eyes, so be it and I wish you all you deserve on judgment day
Opining on the fact of being pro-life or anti-abortion is simply a jester of seeking out those who will listen and understand that abortion is not the right way. Those who do not want to listen are certainly not required to do so...it’s an option.


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Anna on May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am
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Another false equivalence; prostitution doesn’t require killing innocent babies.

False argument:  Not all abortions kill innocent babies.  Some simply remove cells that have not developed into a baby.

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 10:59 am
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Those who ignore the fact are guilty of condoning it, but ellinas, if you prefer to be ignorant of others wrong doing in God’s eyes, so be it and I wish you all you deserve on judgment day.

Hey peaches,

Does this apply to you, who condones our meddling in Iraq that resulted in all those dead babies, or just elinas and myself?

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 11:04 am

Some simply remove cells that have not developed into a baby.

Another leftie lie; at the moment of conception, a unique human DNA sequence is formed, and that lasts until death, even the wrongful death from abortion.  Every abortion ends a human life.

It’s the terrorists who Clinton helped enable that killed the Iraqis, so you lie again.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 11:15 am

Some simply remove cells that have not developed into a baby.

I try to never respond to your stupid comments but this was too much to ignore for someone that believes that the ‘baby’ is ‘created’ at inception.  So, genius, at what point in the pregnancy does the fetus become a baby?


The Supreme Court is a bunch of black robed tyrants

docdave on May 12, 2008 at 11:20 am
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So, genius, at what point in the pregnancy does the fetus become a baby?

Well, my intellectual superior.  I would go with the dictionaries definition.

Start with baby, then it will refer you to fetus and from there you get the answer.....that you will ignore.  Because you are so reality based.

fe·tus Audio Help [fee-tuhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -tus·es. Embryology.
(used chiefly of viviparous mammals) the young of an animal in the womb or egg, esp. in the later stages of development when the body structures are in the recognizable form of its kind, in humans after the end of the second month of gestation.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fetus

What I like most about you Doc is your pretentious nature.  Its cute.  Really...it is.

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 11:28 am
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In humans, the fetal stage of prenatal development starts at approximately the beginning of the 9th week after fertilization, which is equivalent to the start of the eleventh week in “gestational age.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 11:32 am
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Fetus

Etymology:
Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful — more at feminine
Date:
14th century

: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth
— compare embryo 1b

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetus

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 11:33 am
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Doc?

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 11:35 am

Does this apply to you, who condones our meddling in Iraq that resulted in all those dead babies, or just elinas and myself?

If you cannot understand the differnec between deaths caused in time of war, via capital punishment or if someone invades our homes; versus the deliberate cold-blloded murder of an innocent human being in the womb, then you are beyond all hope. Yours is a close and ignorant mind.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 12, 2008 at 11:37 am

Hey peaches,

Very clever pet name you have stumbled onto there Han-job.  How do you do it? /sarcasm



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on May 12, 2008 at 11:37 am

poof....where is you Aunt Spelling Bea bonnet now?


“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

realitybasedbob on May 12, 2008 at 11:45 am
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If you cannot understand the differnec between deaths caused in time of war,...; versus the deliberate cold-blloded murder of an innocent human being in the womb, then you are beyond all hope.

OK, ill bite.  What is the difference?  Is it different than when the terrorists flew the planes into the twin towers?  Does that war differ from your war in gods eyes?  Can you explain to me in the bible where god has demonstrated rules of warfare?

Because I am pretty sure if you ask over half the parents whos child has been blown to bits might not see the nuance as we do.  Or are they beyond all hope as well?

As far as my opinion, well, I see a difference between flying a plane into a building and dropping a bomb.  One is acceptable and one is not, in gods eyes, they all have the same end result.  Sorry Charlie.

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 11:46 am
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Spelling Bea bonnet

Hehe.  Heh!  Excellent word choice.

Hannitized on May 12, 2008 at 11:47 am

A fetal heart beat can be heard within the 5th and 6th Week after conception.

Zsa Zsa on May 12, 2008 at 12:02 pm

Please pay attention, I will only explain this once.

If a man comes into my home and presents a danger to my family, I will kill that man as an act of self-defense. I am forced to kill that man to SAVE LIVES! I don’t want to kill anyone, but to save my family, if forced to, I will kill anyone threatening their safety. If I take that principle to a national scale and someone comes into my national home and presents a danger to my national family, to SAVE LIVES, I will kill that person or persons. If others, even outside my national home, by any deed support those that would attack and kill my national family, I want our President to find and kill those people to SAVE LIVES of members of my American family.

I will not argue under this thread whether or not Afghanistan and/or Iraq were or were not the best places to take that fight; but the clear results of our going there has resulted in members of the American Military killing thousands of those people that sought directly or indirectly to kill members of my national family.

What about innocent people being killed? In most cases they were not all that innocent, they provided sanctuary and/or material support for those killing our soldiers and who wanted to kill more Americans here at home. Next, most of those killed were killed by terrorist, suicide-murderous, Islamic fanatics, not by Americans. Next, yes some children have died, but again most by Islamic extremists and some as collateral damage, but never were they targeted by Americans.

Abortion is the first degree, cold-blooded targeting and murder of wholly inncoent human beings by the abortionists; and as accesories before, during and after the fact, by all liberals, the DNC and anyone supporting that culture of death.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 12, 2008 at 12:17 pm

Zsa Zsa,

A fetal heart beat can be heard within the 5th and 6th Week after conception.

Sadly, to some it still isn’t a human being. It’s a blob of protoplasm.

A huge cosmic irony is that the same crowd who will defend abortion to the death in the name of “reproductive rights” would demand that you be jailed if they thought you had mistreated a puppy.


Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

Pilgrim on May 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm

A fetal heart beat can be heard within the 5th and 6th Week after conception.

When the sperm and the female reproductive cell (egg) are joined and begin to multiply, either a human being will result or a human being will be aborted, either spontaneously or by force. It is therefore, from conception to birth an innocent human being, with human rights. If we terminate that life we are guilty of the murder of that human being.

I call abortion murder, with full knowledge that people will say I am calling the mother a murderer. But, when this generation has grown up being told that the being in the womb is only a mass of cells, not unlike a tumor, I blame the medical community and the Left for deceiving most of these women and those involved in that deception I believe are guilty.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 12, 2008 at 12:34 pm

In 1973 people were told for the first trimester it was just a BLOB of cells. Today with the technology we have it can no longer be disputed only ignored. Abortion is nothing more and nothing less than the premeditative killing of a human life. Technology doesn’t lie. Only people lie.

Zsa Zsa on May 12, 2008 at 12:44 pm

DNA defines the human being.  It is irrefutable.
The Latin word “fetus” comes from before DNA was discovered, and so is now archaic.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 12:46 pm

would demand that you be jailed if they thought you had mistreated a puppy.

Or, how about the pro-abortionists who condemn the death penalty?
*shakes head*


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Anna on May 12, 2008 at 12:48 pm

Planned parenthood will not give women abortions without paying for their service. It is all about Money! I challenge anyone to go to planned parenthood without Money for an abortion and see what happens.

Zsa Zsa on May 12, 2008 at 12:58 pm

ZZ: I don’t disagree with you, my only point was that I want the blame, the guilt, also fully laid at the door of liberalism and the DNC, as that is where the ‘blob’ concept and the great deception was advanced.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 12, 2008 at 01:02 pm

Another false equivalence; prostitution doesn’t require killing innocent babies.
robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 10:48 am

I said “It is(abortion)as old as prostitution”.
During ancient times prostitutes aborted their babies/fetuses regularly. This is evidenced by the amount of baby/fetus skeletons found during excavations of ancient buildings that were houses of ill repute (bordelos).
I am sorry I forgot you are deficient in your knowledge of ancient Egyptian, Greek , Roman, etc history.
So my dear friend you are once again either wrong, misinformed, or are deliberately ignoring the obvious in order to score brownie points with your associates.

ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 07:00 pm

Of course God is the judge. He will judge those who condone abortion and those who condemn abortion.
Those who ignore the fact are guilty of condoning it, but ellinas, if you prefer to be ignorant of others wrong doing in God’s eyes, so be it and I wish you all you deserve on judgment day Anna on May 12, 2008 at 10:56 am

I do nopt agree with you. I do not condone abortion.
I also do not go around condeming people because of abortion.
I don’t have to scream “baby killers” and other epithets or be judgemental of those that practice abortion for God to know I oppose abortion.
Would you not agree that God can see what is and is not in ones heart without one screaming and loudly declaring as to how one feels about abortion?
How is it that no one condems divorce and adultery with the same fervor as abortion? Divorce and adultery are, IMO, the biggest threats to the foundations of our society.

ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 07:13 pm

How is it that no one condems divorce and adultery with the same fervor as abortion?

Only abortion kills children.  I guess that doesn’t matter to you, but to some of us, it’s a pretty big deal.

Divorce and adultery are, IMO, the biggest threats to the foundations of our society.

Yeah, much worse than radical Islam and creeping leftieism.  /sarcasm


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:19 pm

So my dear friend you are once again either wrong, misinformed, or are deliberately ignoring the obvious in order to score brownie points with
your associates.

No.  In contrast to you, I’m telling the truth.  Sorry it’s so inconvenient for you.  If you wanted to limit your discussion to ancient times, you should have said so.  You didn’t, so you are simply being dishonest, as usual.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:21 pm

How is it that no one condems divorce and adultery with the same fervor as abortion?

Only abortion kills children. 
robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:19 pm

You are wrong. Very wrong.
Divorce kills children (not physicaly) in a miriad ways.

ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 07:25 pm

You are wrong. Very wrong.

No, I’m right, and you know it, liar.  Divorce is certainly harmful to the children involved, but all divorces don’t involve children, and divorce, unlike abortion, doesn’t put children to death.  How can you be an apologist for that barbarous act?


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:39 pm

BTW, it’s “myriad”.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:39 pm

BTW, it’s “myriad”.
robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:39 pm

Thank you for correcting me.

ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 09:28 pm

You are wrong. Very wrong.

No, I’m right, and you know it, liar.
robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:39 pm

I would be lying if I said or thought you are correct.
The fact that you are “right” I already know.

If you wanted to limit your discussion to ancient times, you should have said so.  You didn’t, so you are simply being dishonest, as usual.
robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 07:21 pm

Please notice I said “Abortion has existed since ancient times. It is as old as prostitution”

So, dishonest one, repent for the truth will deliver you.

ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 09:36 pm

The truth:
I said:”I do not condone abortion.
I also do not go around condeming people because of abortion.
I don’t have to scream “baby killers” and other epithets or be judgemental of those that practice abortion for God to know I oppose abortion.”
ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 07:13 pm

The lie:
You (R108) said: “How can you be an apologist for that barbarous act?”

You see dear sir I have not apologised for anyone nor have been an apologist for that barbarous act.

Good night! Sweet dreams and may your wicked ways be gone when you awaken tomorrow.

ellinas on May 12, 2008 at 09:46 pm

You see dear sir I have not apologised for anyone nor have been an apologist for that barbarous act.

Again you lie, troll; you made two false equivalences to abortion: prostitution and divorce, neither of which require the death of a child.  You are a lying apologist, by your own words.  Denying the truth doesn’t change it.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 09:49 pm

So, dishonest one, repent for the truth will deliver you.

Your lying and denying won’t make abortion and prostitution the same.  Their origin in time is irrelevant; prostitution does not require the death of a child; abortion does, by definition.  I know you aren’t sharp enough to comprehend the fundamental difference, but there it is.
Your feeble attempts at personal attack, since you have no real argument, are laughable.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 09:52 pm

Thank you for correcting me.

Some has to, since you are almost always wrong.


If you don’t know by now, don’t mess with it.

robert108 on May 12, 2008 at 09:53 pm
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Or, how about the pro-abortionists who condemn the death penalty? Toronto Condos

Rick on May 13, 2008 at 07:55 pm
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