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Friday, July 18, 2008

Phil Gramm Resigns From McCain Campaign

This is really too bad.

NEW YORK - Phil Gramm, a top adviser to presidential candidate John McCain, said Friday he is resigning from the role as campaign co-chairman after his comments that the United States had become a “nation of whiners” who constantly complain about the state of the economy.

For all the controversy that surrounded Gramm’s comments he wasn’t wrong.

That McCain ousted him from the campaign shows a weakness of character and lack of leadership that speaks volumes about McCain himself.  Rather than a “stick to your guns” sort of leader willing to do what he thinks is right despite the whimsical opinions of the media and the mob McCain is showing himself to be the sort of finger-in-the-wind politician that Bill Clinton was.

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This is not good. I don’t think what Gramm said is all that far off base…


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goon on July 18, 2008 at 07:47 pm

Phil Gramm is vice chairman of UBS. The bank that assists Americans hide assets from the IRS.
I think this has more to do with his resignation than the “nation of whiners” comment.

ellinas on July 18, 2008 at 08:06 pm

Good call e.

Who knows, after all the gop scum falls off the McCain campaign, he just might be a decent candidate after all.


Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on July 18, 2008 at 08:12 pm
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bobbarr08 on July 18, 2008 at 08:32 pm

he just might be a decent candidate after all.

Yeah, then McCain can fully be a pandering populist without an ounce of leadership who’s willing to sell his own out at the drop of a hat just like Obama (although in all fairness, it did take Barry a very long time to cut the Rev and Trinity loose). 

I can hardly wait.


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Hoss on July 18, 2008 at 10:08 pm

bfd, how many people have left the Obama campaign?


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on July 19, 2008 at 08:15 am

What does Gramm know he’s just an economist.

The problem is that McCain’s a whiner wannabee.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on July 19, 2008 at 08:23 am

What does Gramm know he’s just an economist.
The Whistler on July 19, 2008 at 08:23 am

Maybe he knows how to help tax evaders to hide their assets from thr IRS. But he does not help everyone, only the well heeled.

ellinas on July 19, 2008 at 08:28 am
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Whiners?  It is tough in the U.S. these days. the laid-off and unemployed have to pay $4 for a gal. of gas and have to decide which of the two cars or car or pickup to put the gas into--if they can pull themselves away from the big screen TV long enough to do that.
What do you think people will say when you tell them how tough it is in the U.S. and how the oil companies and insurance companies are ripping them off?  guess. The dog has to eat road kill because the kids and I have to eat the dog’s food.

Halatbis on July 19, 2008 at 08:43 am

bfd, how many people have left the Obama campaign?

They didn’t leave they were through under the bus. Only after they were no longer any good to them.

Fledger, Reverand Wrong, Ayers, Rezko, Johnson… The list keeps growing.


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goon on July 19, 2008 at 08:55 am
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This is not good. I don’t think what Gramm said is all that far off base…

If the Messiah says it, it must be true, eh Goon?

Why is it when Republicans show their contempt for Americans is it ok?  If a Democrat would have said this, we would hear nothing but whining from the Conservatives.

Maybe Gramm was right after all?  I guess the problem for McCain is he just doesn’t want that much reality in his campaign.

Hannitized on July 19, 2008 at 12:08 pm

Why is it when Republicans show their contempt for Americans is it ok?  If a Democrat would have said this, we would hear nothing but whining from the Conservatives.

Maybe Gramm was right after all?  I guess the problem for McCain is he just doesn’t want that much reality in his campaign.

Lets look at the crew/malcontents that Obama surrounds himself with
1.) Reverand Wrong (God Damn America)
2.) Billy Ayers and his Wife (domestic terrorists)
3.) Rezko
4.) Father Fledger (he is a piece of work)

That is just off the top of my head add to this the comment from BHO’s wife that this is the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country. That aint whinning.


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goon on July 19, 2008 at 12:12 pm

If the Messiah says it, it must be true, eh Goon?

Why is it when Republicans show their contempt for Americans is it ok?  If a Democrat would have said this, we would hear nothing but whining from the Conservatives.

You know damn well know one looks at Gramm as a messiah figure, the Right and Especially most conservatives don’t look at any man as being more than a man.

Republicans do not ever show contempt for America, in this case it was irritation at people not able to realize they are still living in the most prosperous nation of earth, and while having advantages that most of the world envies and even breaks our laws to get here and enjoy, they bitch because they cannot all afford First Class vacations to Tahiti every damn year!


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on July 19, 2008 at 12:23 pm

...they bitch because they cannot all afford First Class vacations to Tahiti every damn year!
Neiman on July 19, 2008 at 12:23 pm

Not only they cannot afford first class I’d venture and say they can’t afford Fifth class vacations every five years.
And then people like Gramm talk shit to us.

ellinas on July 19, 2008 at 12:57 pm
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most conservatives don’t look at any man as being more than a man.

Except when they worship a life-sized cardboard cut out of Bush and do some warfare over him????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bB2rt3IKJc

Republicans do not ever show contempt for America,

I said Americans, and yes they do...all the time, including our government and it’s officials.  This is evident in most right wing blogs who constantly bash the leadership, both conservative and liberal.

I don’t want to be rude Nieman, but you everything you said has no basis in reality, and is invalid in every way.  Sound familiar?

Hannitized on July 19, 2008 at 01:07 pm

Not only they cannot afford first class I’d venture and say they can’t afford Fifth class vacations every five years.

And then people like Gramm talk shit to us.

So now it is Bushes fault you can’t afford a vacation?


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goon on July 19, 2008 at 01:14 pm
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How in the hell did you come to THAT conclusion Goon?

Hannitized on July 19, 2008 at 01:24 pm

Except when they worship a life-sized cardboard cut out of Bush and do some warfare over him????

Fibber! They did not worship him, they prayed a blessing on him. I thought it was a bit silly, I would have objected; but it was also an isolated event that is meaningless to the greater Christian community.

I said Americans, and yes they do...all the time, including our government and it’s officials.  This is evident in most right wing blogs who constantly bash the leadership, both conservative and liberal.

Our government, mostly Democrat but also Republicans are big spending, big government, anti-liberty and prosperity crud that deserve to be criticized, all of them. They are destroying America. That is quite different than your side hating everything we stand for and wanting us defeated so you can establish a socialist utopia in America.

I don’t want to be rude Nieman, but you everything you said has no basis in reality, and is invalid in every way.  Sound familiar?

(a) Juvewnile on your part, as it is akin to saying, oh yeah well you too! You are like a child saying, ‘I am rubber you are glue, everything you say bounces off me and sticks on you.’ (b) Not very creative to parrot my great utterances, rather than coming up with something original.


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Neiman on July 19, 2008 at 01:26 pm
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They did not worship him, they prayed a blessing on him.

I had no idea you were so well versed in the teachings of Jesus Camp, Neiman.  Why don’t you educate us on what “doing WARFARE over him” means!

Our government, mostly Democrat but also Republicans are big spending, big government, anti-liberty and prosperity crud that deserve to be criticized, all of them. They are destroying America.

Ah yes.  More contempt for Americans and the American government.

That is quite different than your side hating everything we stand for.

Ok....and what is your point for saying that?  Did I say you hate everything we stand for?  Why are you shadowboxing yourself?

(a) Juvewnile on your part, as it is akin to saying, oh yeah well you too! You are like a child saying, ‘I am rubber you are glue, everything you say bounces off me and sticks on you.’ (b)

I am sorry that my juvenile response to your juvenile response offended you Neiman.  And I am also sorry you missed the irony in this.

Hannitized on July 19, 2008 at 02:00 pm

So now it is Bushes fault you can’t afford a vacation?
goon on July 19, 2008 at 01:14 pm

Why would you say such a deranged thing?

ellinas on July 19, 2008 at 05:02 pm
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Hi realitybasedbob,

I saw your avatar.  Are you an Alan Keyes supporter, too!

Alan Keyes for President 2008
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savvyconsumer7 on July 19, 2008 at 07:16 pm

Why yes, I am a big fan.

I loved him in Sanford and Son.

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Excuse me, you were saying?


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realitybasedbob on July 19, 2008 at 07:48 pm

savvyconsumer7 Boob aka RBB is a mouth piece for the Barack Hussein Obama campaign, I am convinced he is one of their staffers.


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I am convinced he is one of their staffers.

Yeah! rbb reminds me of staph, too!



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Proof on July 19, 2008 at 08:00 pm

So now it is Bushes fault you can’t afford a vacation?
goon on July 19, 2008 at 01:14 pm

goon, why would you say such a deranged thing?
Who blamed Bush for their vacation?

ellinas on July 20, 2008 at 09:34 am

ellinas it is called being sarcastic, Bush gets blamed for everything else I figure you were blaming him as well…


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goon on July 20, 2008 at 09:52 am

Sarcasm aside to prove that you don’t fit in the fifth class every five years can’t take a vacation category what you say we vacation together in Tahiti first class next month?

ellinas on July 20, 2008 at 10:01 am

No goon. I don’t blame Bush for everything. Just the astronomical national debt, the spending spree in our name with the nation’s credit card, and the needless (IMO) war in Iraq.

ellinas on July 20, 2008 at 10:05 am

Ellinas that would be your democratic congress.


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goon on July 20, 2008 at 10:26 am

Goon. That was the congress with the Republican majority. Besides. Did the dog eat Bushes veto?

ellinas on July 20, 2008 at 10:30 am

There’s plenty of room to blame the Republicans and GWB for spending so much.  In fact the really tragic thing is that they apparently didn’t learn a damn thing by their losses in 2006.

On the other hand the Democrats are much worse and I notice the frauds like Ellinas are willing to give them a free pass for their overspending.  (How’s the deficit going to come out compared to last year with the first Reid/Pelosi budget that ends Sept 30th as compared to the previous one?)


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on July 20, 2008 at 11:17 am

Whistler is right GWB has not reigned in spending as well.
The fact remains the Dems have been incontrol of the congress for two years and have done nothing but try to fatten their pocks with special interest money and obstruct domestic drilling.


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goon on July 20, 2008 at 11:22 am

Whistler.  Did the dog eat Bushes veto?
And how are the Dems able to pass a budget with a 51 to 49 majority?
If you want to blame ‘em all I’ll be right there with you. I’ll scream at these co**su**kers louder than anyone.
Methinks that you are more interested in making cheap partisan point on the issue.

ellinas on July 20, 2008 at 11:28 am

The fact remains the Dems have been incontrol of the congress for two years and have done nothing but try to fatten their pocks with special interest money and obstruct domestic drilling.
goon on July 20, 2008 at 11:22 am

If that’s all they did, why then blame them for the budget deficit?

ellinas on July 20, 2008 at 11:30 am

You need to work on your reading skills.  I said there is plenty to blame Bush for. 

Have someone explain things before you make a fool of yourself again.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on July 20, 2008 at 12:19 pm

One thing of interest is that you don’t hear daily reports on the deficit in the media. 

Apparently they unlike Ellinas know that it’s a Democrat budget and aren’t going to call attention to it.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on July 20, 2008 at 12:20 pm

If that’s all they did, why then blame them for the budget deficit?

They are using the green movement to shove their special interests down our throat based on a phoney science. That will eventually cause even further deficits.


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goon on July 20, 2008 at 12:35 pm

Game set and match whistler.


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goon on July 20, 2008 at 12:38 pm

And how are the Dems able to pass a budget with a 51 to 49 majority? If you want to blame ‘em all I’ll be right there with you. I’ll scream at these co**su**kers louder than anyone.
Methinks that you are more interested in making cheap partisan point on the issue.
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