People Leaving Blue States Means More House Seats For Red States

• December 24, 2008

After the 2010 census the seats in the House of Representatives will be re-apportioned among the various states by population. And as of right now that re-apportionment looks good for “red states” as people leave “blue states.”

The population shifts will be felt following the 2010 census, when the nation apportions the 435 seats in the House of Representatives, based on population. Texas stands to be the biggest winner, picking up as many as four seats, while Ohio could be the big loser, giving up as many as two seats, according to projections by Kim Brace of Election Data Services, a Virginia-based firm that crunches political numbers.
Other states projected to lose single seats are Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania. Brace projects Arizona to add two seats, while Georgia, Nevada, South Carolina and Utah could add one each. Florida could add one or two seats, Brace said.

Of those states, four are solidly liberal-voting states. Four lean blue. Two are swing states, and one leans red.
So what does this mean? Two things, I think.
First, I think this is a commentary on big-government liberal policies. Generally, people are leaving states controlled by liberals. Meaning they’re leaving states with higher taxes and bigger government. They’re “voting with their feet” in what is one of the greatest traditions of our federalist democracy. If people don’t like the policies of one state they can move to another. We should remember this as the agents of big government seek to weaken the states and consolidate power at the federal level.
Second, I’m not sure that this blue state diaspora is necessarily a good thing for the cause of limited government in red states. A blue state exodus tends to turn red states purple. Many of these people fleeing state governments they don’t like will continue to vote for the same sort of leaders and policies in their new homes that made their old homes uninhabitable.
Liberals often continue to be liberals even as they flee the result of their own preferred policies.
(via Paul Ibrahim)

Tags: Domestic Issues, Politics

Hannitized

Hannitzed: Blah, blah, blah, blah (I never admit I’m wrong) blah, blah, blah!

MMM……yeah…..”I” am wrong? Sure (not). What an idiot you are Poofy.

You make a statement that is entirely possible by simply having administrative privileges, and then hold others accountable for taking you for your word. Typical conservative who never accepts responsibility for their actions.

BTW, not everyone who posts on the front page has full administrative access.

I really could care less.
Hannitized

Proof admits to violations of SAB ethics:

I have access to the comment editing software for SA. Nine times out of ten, Dino types….

Typical right wing tactic to abuse power to attempt to humiliate his political foes. What a numbnut.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

What will you do about the people leaving "red ideology" a la North Carolina and Virginia?

And where do those blue people go? They go to red states and turn them purple, again as in VA and NC.

Conservatism is not a popular belief system these days and will only drop in popularity as we tie it to the meltdown.
Flickertail

Dino I fear conservitism is dead also, and I stay awake at night thinking about it. I see too many people expecting something for nothing. I own my own business and work at a minimum 60 hours a week, but to ask somebody to actually work 40 hours sometimes seems like a crime. Most of the employees I've had (which I pay 3 dollars more then mimimum wage) can't even find the ambition to come in on time.

Nope we've become the handout nation too many people expect the government to provide, which sickens me every time I think about it.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Depending on where you live, you pay your people around 8-10 $ per hour.

I wouldn't give you much devotion for that either. I'd steal you blind. Or burn you down.
http://drudgereport.com/ FHJR

Dino:

Do you have a day job?
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

I'd steal you blind. Or burn you down.

Liberal ethics on display.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Dino: Do you have a day job?

FHJR: I have access to the comment editing software for SA. Nine times out of ten, Dino types "Do you want fries with that?" and then has to erase it! Heh.
Flickertail

Depending on where you live, you pay your people around 8-10 $ per hour.
I wouldn't give you much devotion for that either. I'd steal you blind. Or burn you down.

Well as a small business owner I can't really pay too much more, if a person is just showing up for a paycheck why pay them more? You expect to get paid, there should be no expectations of getting paid for nothing, thats welfare. If you show ambition or want to get paid more, work more, be ontime, and do the job above expectations. Thats what I've always done and I expect no less from anyone else. A job isn't just a money tree you actually have responsibilities.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

If you can't afford to pay people a decent wage your business isn't viable.

The idea that hard work will garner a reward is belied by the fact that as productivity gains increased greatly over the past 20 years, incomes have remained stagnant.

This is my job. I'm paid by the democrats to educate the stems. In my world, this is known as a sweatshop. LOL
Flickertail

As a bonus bit after I figure out the hours I work every year my hourly wage is about $8.50 an hour. Out of this I get to pay a little over a third of all of it to the government after Social security, Medicare, income, unemployment and WSI insurance.

Wow us business owners have it good.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Don't complain to me. 30 years of republican policies tilted towards large corporations has destroyed small business.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

This is my job. I'm paid by the democrats to educate the stems.

Then they should ask for their money back, because you have failed colossally! Maybe had you educated yourself first?
Flickertail

This is my job. I'm paid by the democrats to educate the stems. In my world, this is known as a sweatshop. LOL

Really a sweatshop? What do you expect to get paid? In our area 10 dollars an hour for part time work is pretty good, do you expect to get paid 20 dollars for doing nothing? I'm sure you do. Because all of us small businesses are so rich.
Flickertail

Don't complain to me. 30 years of republican policies tilted towards large corporations has destroyed small business.

So why do the Democrats want to tax me more?
tarpon

So how are the illegals going to figure in? They already want to have the ice raids stopped so they won't scare them off.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Dino: Is your job title: "Name Calling Buffoon"?
Hannitized

Proof says:

My dear, demented, dimwitted Dino:

and…

Anyone care to spit in the wind trying to educate this sub-moronic troll?

all in the same comment;
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/we_liberals_are_…

Clearly Poofy suffers from projection and he can't get over the McCain loss. He is a bitter and angry sore loser.
sc

Dino: If your theory is right that it's conservatives that are the problem for our economy, then, why do so many liberal states with local (cities, counties) governments controlled by Liberals have such financial problems, etc? Why do Conservative run states like North Dakota have 1.2 billion in the bank with 2.2% unemployment and a robust economy? Do you see my problem understanding your position?
syn

Do you see my problem understanding your position?

Understanding Dino, it's an ongoing problem.

Personally speaking, I've come to the conclusion Dino is a Serf who needs to wallow in Serfdom to feel alive.

I feel sorry(head tilting to the side) for Dino, Serfdom is such miserable place to reside.
Flickertail

Typical right wing tactic to abuse power to attempt to humiliate his political foes. What a numbnut.

What and I wasn't attacked for my store being called a sweatshop, typical double standard.
robert108

Conservatism is not a popular belief system these days and will only drop in popularity as we tie it to the meltdown.

Conservative Derangement Syndrome.

Don't complain to me. 30 years of republican policies tilted towards large corporations has destroyed small business.

Truth Derangement Syndrome.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Proof admits to violations of SAB ethics:

Hannitized the Humorless has trouble with a three letter word: Heh.
To my knowledge, no such software exists that allows anyone to see the content of your comments before you hit the "Submit" key. It was a joke, dullard! (The Head of the Department of Homeland Security is making me say that!*)

(What grade did you say you were in, Han-Job? A smart tenth grader should have been able to figure out that it was a joke! And here you claimed to be such a computer whiz! -Probably ranks up there with your surfing and marksmanship skills! Heh!)

*Also a joke… for the humor impaired!
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

I used to do Subtitles for the Humor Impaired. Maybe if Han-job and Dino persist in their cluelessness, I may have to revive that.
syn

"Conservatism is not a popular belief system these days and will only drop in popularity as we tie it to the meltdown."

Ok but We had better get off their high horse and figure out that Democrat-Liberals are majority in Congress and hold the White House.

Get back to me in 2010 when the Bush tax-cuts (for everyone except the top 5r;s who voted for Obama) expire then let's talk POPULARITY.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

I really was wondering if anyone would be stupid enough or clueless enough about computers to not construe that as a joke. Thanks, Hannitized for not disappointing me!
Heh.
syn

I imagine by this time in 2010 all the out-of-work Broadway Serfs will be begging Alaskans for a place to live.
Hannitized

To my knowledge, no such software exists that allows anyone to see the content of your comments before you hit the "Submit" key.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!!

There are many appliances and software products that allow you to see anything that is typed on a network, server or database as they are being typed.

You can literally rewind and playback anything anyone is doing on a network or server.
Hannitized

and you did not make a distinction between if he was hitting preview key or submit. And my answer pertains to what exists, not what would actually work in this situation.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Liberal cities and states are suffering under the same backwards effects of conservatism. my state- Oregon- is considered liberal but the legislature was run by republicans from 1990 to 2006. Also coincided with our decline.

There are few places untouched by 30 years of conservative ignorance and mismanagement.
Hannitized

I really was wondering if anyone would be stupid enough or clueless enough about computers to not construe that as a joke. Thanks, Hannitized for not disappointing me!

Oh jeezus christ I didn't see this before i commented.

Really Poofy, when you jump in with both feet you really commit to it, don't you.

You are seriously going to display your ignorance of network forensic tools as a trump card over my knowledge of network monitoring and data recovery?

I will bet you can't even articulate what types of packets are sent over a network, let alone how data is captured once it is at rest on disk. Disk that can either be booting from SAN or NAS or direct attached.

What putz you are Poofy.
welder4

If all the guy in business is getting is $8.50 an hour maybe he needs to rethink his structure and business model , it appears it is not working right for him or her.?? of course there are the hours they work so if he makes $1,000 A week and he figures up 70 80 hours then he is making a low hourly rate . Ah I remember the good old days when I paid in 801 dollars a week in taxes out of that I cleared $1,201.00 But i did work 80 hours a week I did this for two years, had a ball . To get a business to work and start paying anything it usually takes two years of hard work on the part of the owner, if all the I 's were dotted and the T's crossed you could cut back to 50 hours a week . Of course a person that is hired is to do the job they signed on for, and that ethic is disappearing fast. Y'all have a good day and Merry Christmas and to all a good night .
RebTex

I wouldn't give you much devotion for that either. I'd steal you blind. Or burn you down.

Typical leftist.
Of course, there'll be a trumpet line to suddenly refute the statement.
RebTex

This is my job. I'm paid by the democrats to educate the stems

Well, with biden's glaring incompetence for a guidon, this statement is not surprising.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

What putz you are Poofy.

And yet, you're the humorless one who doesn't get the joke. Perhaps, more specifically, I should have said I know of no software on the SAB system that allows such as thing. Surely the DoD has the capabilities, but again, you're not STUPID enough to think that we would have or utilize such stuff here? And to what purpose? To humiliate clowns like you, who already do a marvelous job of that for free? What a putz, indeed!
Hannitized

And yet, you're the humorless one who doesn't get the joke.

Ok Eddie Murphy, your joke was only obvious to people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about (you).

First, you said you had access to the "comment editing software". That means you could see what people had said in the preview section or once they had submitted. If someone edited their comments after they previewed it you could easily see it.

That is not exactly impossible to set up you know. So from the start, your joke could be taken seriously.

Second, you offered a challenge about what is possible, not what you had done. So the challenge you offered was different that what you said you were capable of. You idiot.

Perhaps, more specifically, I should have said I know of no software on the SAB system that allows such as thing.

You mean like having administrative privileges and access? You idiot. Because that would give you the ability to see what people draft but never submit.

Surely the DoD has the capabilities, but again, you're not STUPID enough to think that we would have or utilize such stuff here?

Again, let me explain for your slow brain. You stated you didn't know of any software that enabled you to see what people comment on their computer before they hit preview or submit. So I answered the question that is it possible. But this has nothing to do with what you said you could achieve by having access to what Dino might have authored in draft form.

And to what purpose? To humiliate clowns like you, who already do a marvelous job of that for free? What a putz, indeed!

You are soo in over your head, you are too clueless to know it.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Hannitzed: Blah, blah, blah, blah (I never admit I'm wrong) blah, blah, blah!

BTW, not everyone who posts on the front page has full administrative access. (Rob suspects Whistler and I of plotting a coup de grace!)

Closed captioning for the Humor Impaired:

Let it go, putz! It was a joke and you weren't sharp enough to tumble to it! You will only embarrass yourself further, the deeper you dig!
Mickey

This is my job. I'm paid by the democrats to educate the stems. In my world, this is known as a sweatshop. LOL

Translation: A loser who makes under $8.00 per hour.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

OH MICKEY YOU'RE SO FINE

YOU'RE SO FINE

YOU BLOW MY MIND

HEY MICKEY!

HEY MICKEY!
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

If conservatives would just STFU and give liberalism 30 years of unimpeded power like the cons had to make the changes necessary to reivie this cesspool country, we'd get er done.

But we have to contend with obstructionist cons and their never-ending filibusters, dirty tricks and general asshole-ism.

I blame liberals for being too wimpy and not steamrolling the cons through demonization and general mayhem.
RebTex

Depending on where you live, you pay your people around 8-10 $ per hour.
I wouldn't give you much devotion for that either. I'd steal you blind. Or burn you down.

Your inane statement came to mind when I read this article: http://www.kfdm.com/news/thomas_29330___article.h…
"PENSACOLA, Fla. (AP) – A Christian woman claims she was fired from her job because she greeted callers with "Merry Christmas," but the vacation rental company says it's no Scrooge and the woman is just a disgruntled employee.

Tonia Thomas, 35, said she refused to say "Happy Holidays" and was fired, even after offering to use the company's non-holiday greeting. The Panama City woman filed a federal complaint that accuses the company of religious discrimination. She is seeking compensation for lost wages…"
"…Thomas has found another job, but she makes less than the $10.50 an hour she earned with the rental company. She said the trauma of being fired and the pay cut has made for a tough holiday season for herself, her husband and their 6-year-old son…"
It's more than small businesses paying the wages you scoff at.
Just more proof of how out of touch with reality you are.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

If conservatives would just STFU and give liberalism 30 years of unimpeded power like the cons had

You do know that simply repeating the lie over and over doesn't make it true, don't you?
Hannitized

Yes, we know that. This is why your entire argument about ODS not existing is an utter falsehood.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

If she was told to say Happy Holidays and she refused, tough. You cons would be the first to say:

She didn't do as she was told so deserved to be fired or,

No one forced her to work there or,

She should have thought about how her actions would affect her family.

You people show NO sympathy for workers who receive pay cuts, benefit cuts or are forced to do things they don't like for a paycheck. This idiot is no exception.
Flickertail

If she was told to say Happy Holidays and she refused, tough. You cons would be the first to say:
She didn't do as she was told so deserved to be fired or,
No one forced her to work there or,

So on the other hand if I hire someone and expect a certain level of work for a certain amount of pay, I can fire them? But then you would burn my business down. HMMMMM can't figure out your logic yet, but I will learn.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Fire away. I just wouldn't give you much loyalty for 8-10 bucks an hour. Burning it down was rhetorical.

Whoever you replace them with is not going to give you much enthusiasm for that low of pay. That's what you people don't get. You complain about lazy employees but then you get what you pay for.

Blame the republicans whose supply-side economics has frozen upward mobility for many while rewarding the top 10%. You're a victim of it too, you're just blind to it. but, you are feeling the effects.

In 1980, my girlfriend was making $10 working as a deli girl in a grocery store. 1980. And you people think that should be seen as a good pay now? That's the effect of 30 years of conservatism. Destruction of the middle class. If it takes you down too, good, as you supported that mindset.
welder4

It is totally silly to force someone to say anything about no religion or anything that pertains to Christmas it is a holiday we have had for over a hundred years. I believe Grant made it a law, it is no more being religious then saying happy Kawanza or happy veterans day or have a great 4th. What is the big deal here if it it is not trying to erase any sign of religion in the public which is not what the freedom and liberties we are about, I have wished many people a Merry Christmas and have never had any one say bad things about the greeting , now maybe if I said "have a happy time in hell" I might get a bad response . After all it is a federal holiday so why not try to get it changed at the federal level and good luck it would not go very far . and how far are we off the content of the discussion over red an blue state representation article . so why not stick to the forum and deal with the topic . I get caught up in it but I am trying not to and I will from this point in time check at the top to see if I am on the right topic . Some times I think, wow did I change articles ? Merry Chrismas to all and to all a good knight !
King of the round table, har har ,
RebTex

Fire away. I just wouldn't give you much loyalty for 8-10 bucks an hour. Burning it down was rhetorical.

It's questionable if the "burning" part was rhetorical.
It didn't seem to be.
That aside, your viewpoint shows the great crevasse in the differences between the left & the Right.
Loyalty, when bought, is worthless.
In the reciprocal relationship between management & worker requires Trust & Loyalty no matter the wage.
After 15 minutes, what good is Love bought?
/See…*that* is a rhetorical statement
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Oh puhleeze! The only loyalty the right has it to MONEY. There's not a con alive who wouldn't renounce their citizenship, their religion or possibly even their loved ones for the right amount of $$$$.
Flickertail

Whoever you replace them with is not going to give you much enthusiasm for that low of pay. That's what you people don't get. You complain about lazy employees but then you get what you pay for.

So in your opinion $15 an hour will give me more work ethic?
RebTex

The only loyalty the right has it to MONEY. There's not a con alive who wouldn't renounce their citizenship, their religion or possibly even their loved ones for the right amount of $$$$.

I wouldn't bet the farm on that one if I were you.
I'd have said not to bet your soul, but it's clear you gave away the rights to that…..
sc

Dino: Oregon has had a Democrat Governor since 1987 and things have gone to hell in Oregon. I have many Liberal relatives living in the Portland area. Every one of them has been out to screw the system. Everyone of them has taken advantage of workmen's comp, abuse sick leave and unemployment. They brag about who gets more out of the system. Does anyone work in Oregon?
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

There's not a con alive who wouldn't renounce their citizenship, their religion or possibly even their loved ones for the right amount of $$$$.

Projection.
Dino of the low morals has already told us to what depths he would stoop in other circumstances.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Flicker: yes

Reb: zzzzzzzzzzzzz you don't even know how to read.

sc: the legislature was republican. Besides, Portland is a magical place, the envy of most American cities and a top destination for foreign visitors. Consistently in the top 10 best places to live in this country. Thank liberals for that!

Proof: zzzzzzzzzzzz being accused of having low morals by a con is laughable.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Proof: zzzzzzzzzzzz being accused of having low morals by a con islaughable.

True! What I should have said is NO morals. It would have been more apt!
You can go back to sleep now!
Hoss

I'd steal you blind. Or burn you down.

Typical leftist scumbag. That's why the left is virtually unemployable. But, you can't really label a party that has no morals as being morally bankrupt, I guess.

And you might want to slow down on the right loves money and corporatism meme, nevermind, it's not like you'd concede what dollar whores and corporate shills the democrat party has become despite all the unimpeachable evidence.It's not like we could ever expect intellectual honesty out of you.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

But the right does love money and corporatism. I once knew a con who ate his mother because someone told him he'd shit money.

That's one of my favorites. Here's another:

A young man is hitchhiking on a lonely country road. A car stops to pick him up. The driver says, "Before you get in, are you a democrat or a republican?". "Democrat!", the boy says proudly.

The car speeds off.

A little while later another car stops. Again the driver asks the boy what party he belongs to. "Democrat!", the boy says again.

And again the car speeds off.

Another car stops, this one a sports car driven by a beautiful blonde. Like the others she asks the boy, "Are you a democrat or a republican?" After thinking the boy says, "Republican!"

"Get in", she says and he does.

They're driving along and he notices her looking at him once in a while, checking out his crotch. He looks at her and she licks her lips and smiles. The next time he looks over she's hitching up her skirt. Then she reaches over and puts her hand on his thigh.

At this the boy said, "Ma'am, you better stop the car and let me out. I've only been a republican for a few minutes and I already feel like screwing somebody!"
tothestars2

If you can't afford to pay people a decent wage your business isn't viable.

The idea that hard work will garner a reward is belied by the fact that as productivity gains increased greatly over the past 20 years, incomes have remained stagnant.
————————————————————
This sounds familiar, oh yeah, it was from a speech Hitler gave during his rise to power.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

Dino: Keep your day job!
http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

So-called "liberals" are like a virus. They mess up their hosts, flee to new ones, and start the process anew.

DINO shows this in spades

I'd steal you blind. Or burn you down.

They're like viruses looking to eat from those who produce, unable to survive on their own.

You can also see this in action when the "liberals" talk about how generous they are and how "stingy" the conservatives are, and yet study after study have shown that conservatives are the most generous with charity while the "liberals" are the most stingy. When they talk like this, it is nothing more than projection.

They're viruses serving no one but themselves.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Really? Liberals as viruses? That would make conservatives CANCER since their policies have created an ENORMOUS economic crisis!

However, conservatives behave more like a sexually transmitted disease in that they spread the cancer by screwing people over. Then they behave like a parasite and blame someone else!
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

Parasites Lik, Parasites.

And, yes, I agree.
Lance

What will you do about the people leaving "red ideology" a la North Carolina and Virginia?

Unlikely since most people in the south love their heritage and traditions.

Conservatism is not a popular belief system these days and will only drop in popularity as we tie it to the meltdown.

Just among the uneducated. Statistically speaking, the more educated a person is, the less likely they are to be a Democrat. Most liberals have no idea what they are voting for, what they are protesting, what it's like to live outside of their parents basement, or what it's like to have a real job with responsibilities (No Dino, your gas pumping job doesn't count). If someone makes them aware of the actual platform of their party, basic economics, American history, or the Constitution, they are usually no longer liberals.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

If they live in the south, they love poverty, too:

Poverty in the Republican South

Persistent Poverty Counties are those that have had poverty rates of 20% or higher in every decennial census between 1970 and 2000.

340 of the 386 (88%) Persistently Poor Counties are nonmetro.

18% of nonmetro counties are persistent poverty counties, versus only 4% of metro counties.

The nonmetro South, with over 40 percent of the U.S. nonmetro population, has a significantly higher incidence of poverty.

82% of the nonmetro persistently poor counties are in the South.

Oh, and the MOST educated people are liberals. Those with post-grad educations.
Wookiebush

DiNO, what you FAIL to realize is that in the south, most states are controlled by the DEMS. That is one of the odd things about the south, localy they vote DEM, and nationally and judges they vote republican. So once again, poverty brought on by dems. look at Detroit, been in libtards hands for over 30 years, and it is a social wasteland.

W.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Southern cons can call themselves dems. Party labels mean nothing. IDEOLOGY IS EVERYTHING.

Last I checked, Detroit was part of the country that republicans have ruled for decades and destroyed through neglect and mismanagement. Cities don't make economic policy. They suffer under republican rule as everyone else does.
robert108

IDEOLOGY IS EVERYTHING.

That's what Marxists believe; for real Americans, it's principle.
welder4

Hey Dino who ran Detroit for decades try democrats since 1970 , 38 years of decline"

On America's cities. Run by Democrats' core union and activist African-American constituencies, Detroit is a living laboratory of the party's liberal agenda. Ruled by Democrats (a Republican has not served in city government since the late 1970s) in a majority-Democrat state, Detroit boasts a living-wage law, strict racial hiring quotas, a public-school system with one of the nation's highest per pupil expenditures, a generous welfare system, a highly paid union workforce, high tax rates, and city services delivered entirely by the public sector.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Welder, we already covered the Detroit thing. Why not talk about all the successful cities? Cities are where the intellectual capital is that is holding this economy up. Certainly won't find it in the rural areas. What you will find in rural areas is poverty, particularly in the conservative rural south:

Persistent Poverty Counties are those that have had poverty rates of 20% or higher in every decennial census between 1970 and 2000.

340 of the 386 (88%) Persistently Poor Counties are nonmetro.

18% of nonmetro counties are persistent poverty counties, versus only 4% of metro counties.

The nonmetro South, with over 40 percent of the U.S. nonmetro population, has a significantly higher incidence of poverty. 82% of the nonmetro persistently poor counties are in the South.

You just enjoy that cushy union job you have thanks to liberal policies. Don't get too comfy though, your people are gunning to reduce your income and bennies.

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