Pentagon Planning To Deploy 20,000 US Troops Domestically For Security Purposes

I have a big, big problem with this:

The U.S. military expects to have 20,000 uniformed troops inside the United States by 2011 trained to help state and local officials respond to a nuclear terrorist attack or other domestic catastrophe, according to Pentagon officials.
The long-planned shift in the Defense Department’s role in homeland security was recently backed with funding and troop commitments after years of prodding by Congress and outside experts, defense analysts said.

I’m assuming that the law giving the President, and thus the Pentagon, the authority to do this is the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 which was signed into law by President Bush in October of 2006. I wrote about it back in 2006. At the time it was suggested that the President needed this power to react to natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina (prior to this law’s passage the President couldn’t deploy military forces domestically without consent of the state Governor in question).
I opposed that expansion of executive power then, and I oppose it now.
The Posse Comitatus and Insurrection Acts exist for a reason. America must have a clear definition between domestic law enforcement and the national military. Because while the idea of government using the military domestically for political ends may seem far-fetched right now, such problems come about slowly. Especially in liberal democracies such as ours.
In ancient times Roman soldiers would lay down their arms before crossing the Rubicon and became Roman citizens before entering their homeland. It wasn’t until Caesar crossed the Rubicon with his armies that Rome became an empire.

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  • http://www.sayanythingblog.com/ electnixon
  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Bike Bubba

    This bothers me, even if they leave their weapons on the other side of the Rubicon, so to speak. Not because of Posse Commitatus, but rather because the federal government would be assuming the role of first responder. When that happens, we are no longer a republic, but rather really more of an empire.

  • RebTex

    SFC
    My comment was in no way directed at the Soldiers but completely directed at the next administration.
    My problem is that this detail will be ready to deployabout the same time as obama takes the reins.
    My inferrence was that it would be easy for this detail to re-deploy to a “new mission”.
    obama’s handlers have already hinted at several of the same policies & programs as was used by Germany.
    With any research at all (or attention to my postings for the last 8 months), one can clearly see that obama’s speeches closely mirrored those of hitler.

    During my time in, I also wore only the official BDU’s but I wasn’t in the Service during a socialist movement.

  • Scared

    I don’t care who’s sitting in the Oval Office, this is BAD BAD BAD juju. American soldiers, with full battle gear, walking the streets of our hometowns. That isn’t a police state, its a militarily controlled state.

    I’m sure 20,000 fully armed soldiers riding armored Humvees and Tanks wouldn’t do anything to stifle political protest or free speech…… yhea right.

    Buy guns, Buy Food. Remember you can’t eat bullets, but without the bullets somebody will take your food.

  • Dino

    Let’s see. How will you blame liberals for this……

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Burying your weapons is not going to be
    effective against these guys.

    Liberals have argued we don’t need anything more than a handgun. Now, we might actually need those “assault weapons”, and they’re telling us “sucks you only have certain weapons huh?

  • Dino

    Quite a stretch there Rob.

    And Mickey, didja hear that Ayers is going to be the new Secretary of Education?

  • sdmike

    Whomever is in office this is a scary move by our near tyrannical government. Wait until inflation hits like it did in the Weimar Republic of post WWI Germany, you will see even more tactics like that of Hitler because they work in that situation. We the people will need to execute our second amendment to to stay alive as a country.

  • Kurt

    Something very evil lurks in the hearts of men, with destruction, takeover, control, on the horizon. I fear the beginning of the end. How many warnings are needed to see the ugliness coming? An alarmist? Just being prepared what is to come.

  • Mickey

    Prior to the election Joe Biden warned us that Obama would be tested. Now Mumbai is attacked and we have troops in our cities ready for trouble. The economy is tanking and the transition to leadership is an unknown whom not even his followers can fully explain. The Metaphysics of Envy and the revenge of the psychologically oppressed against people who look happier and more satisfied with their lives is in play.

  • 2Hotel9

    As I have pointed out at another blog, there are over 800,000 Active Duty troops in CONUS at any given time.

    This is ostensibly being done for immediate response to NBC attacks by terrorists. The reasoning being that they are trained and equipped for that specific task. Fact is there are already Active Duty troops positioned around CONUS for this. Just look at a list of US Military bases.

    I actually have no problem with deploying Active Duty troops along our borders, as long outside the demarcated border line. That would be cognizant with the limits outlined in the Constitution.

  • RebTex

    Remember you can’t eat bullets,

    But with bullets, you eat.

  • 2Hotel9

    dinothefakehomo, perhaps you could name the Republicans who were screaming so loudly after Katrina for Active Duty troops to do what police, fire&rescue and other civilians are supposed to, and did, do?

    John Warner was the committee head that crafted this pile of shit. Who were Senators and Reps who wanted this so badly? And how long have you been calling them Republicans?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Will they still give us cheese?

  • Mickey

    And Mickey, didja hear that Ayers is going to be the new Secretary of Education

    Too bad Jeffry Dahmer is dead. He could be Obamas secretary of Health and Welfare.

  • Dino

    Juuuust about to snap, it’s stretched so tight.

  • Mickey

    On the flip side, if we had this when Obama’s friend Bill Ayres bombed the Pentagon he would of gotten shot on sight. I wonder how Obama will treat domestic terrorists now. hmmm

  • 2Hotel9

    Still waiting for dinothefakehomo to list for us all the members of Congress who screeched&wailed for Active Duty troops to be deployed after Katrina. And to explain when he started calling them Republicans. I’m quite certain Teddi Kennedy&Co will be shocked to find out they are Republicans according to dinothefakehomo.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    I am also against this. Title 10 soldiers should not be used. There are plenty of National Guard Troops under Title 32 which a state Governor has authority.

  • studakota

    Most So. American countries already have this sort of arrangement and look how well that works. It’s not the policeman in Mexico you best beware of,it’s the Federales. They’ll both make you disappear but the police usually hide you in some dark recess till someone pays a bribe. Not so with their army, you go “Poof”.

  • RebTex

    Hmmmmmmm…veddy inter-restink
    /Shultz
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    I wonder what type of boots & shirts they’ll be wearing…..

  • sfcmac

    @rebtex:

    The only boots and shirts I wore during my 30 years as a Soldier, were part of my Army fatigues/BDUs. Stow the damned references to Nazis. It’s insulting and crass. Leave that crap to the liberals; Dick Durbin in particular. You have considerably more to fear from the corrupt, Marxist, nihilist moron who will take office on 20 Jenuary 2009, than you do those who are sworn to uphold the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution.

    Just save your Nazi references for him. You’ll need it.

  • Friend of USA

    Republicans couldn’t have passed the law without Democrats on board.

    True.

    but it is under a Democrat that the USA will be one step closer to what some would call a “police state”

    And all this time the left was warning us Bush would be the one to do it…

    Obama will bring change that’s for sure, just not the change the left has voted for…

  • RebTex

    Too bad Jeffry Dahmer is dead

    Didja know that Dahmer’s bologna actually DID have a first name?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Juuuust about to snap, it’s stretched so tight.

    So what you’re saying is that you have no serious rebuttal.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I think blame lays on both sides of the aisle on this one.

    Democrats railed against President Bush not unilaterally deploying American military forces to help with Katrina, so he went out got Congress to give him that power.

    They worked together on this, Dino.

    Not everything is a partisan issue.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Quite a stretch there Rob.

    Republicans couldn’t have passed the law without Democrats on board.

  • WOOFX

    Burying your weapons is not going to be
    effective against these guys.

    The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

    Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

    Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

    The Boys Are Back In Town

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