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Tuesday, February 26, 2008

Pelosi: Bush’s “$10 Trillion” War Will Never End

Does anyone really take this woman seriously when she says ludicrous things like this?

Washington (AP) House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says a recent Pentagon projection shows the troop buildup in Iraq is not temporary.

A senior general says that when the buildup ends in July, there will be about 8,000 more troops in Iraq than when the surge began.

There currently are about 158,000 U.S. troops in Iraq.

Lieutenant General Carter Ham says that’s likely to drop to about 140,000. It’s the first time the Pentagon has publicly speculated on the number of troops who will remain in Iraq. Ham stresses that the troop level is tied to the security situation in Iraq.

Pelosi argues that Americans are demanding “a new direction in Iraq.” She says Americans are rejecting a quote “10-year, trillion-dollar war in Iraq.”

First, it’s worth noting that nobody wants the war in Iraq to go on forever.  The left, in its never ending quest to cast the war in Iraq in shadows of hopelessness, would like people to think that Republicans do want an endless war but that’s just politics.  We all want our troops to come home.  It’s just that some of us want them to come home victorious.

Second, it’s also worth noting that the vast majority of troops who will remain in Iraq over and above the number who were there pre-surge will be support troops.  Administrators.  Logistics officers.  Support staff.  Obviously, these not being combat troops, the number of soldiers in actual harm’s way will probably be about equal to pre-surge numbers.  Not that partisans like Pelosi care much for details like this.

And, finally, as for that “$10 trillion war” nonsense, let’s keep in mind that our entire federal budget - including all the money spent on roads, bridges, pork projects and entitlements like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - “only” totaled $2.7 trillion in 2007.  Let’s also keep in mind that in a single year we, as a nation, budget more for social entitlements than the entire world does on military and war.

The entire world.  Global military and war spending was $1.12 trillion in 2005. America’s entitlement spending that same year was about $1.32 billion.  In order for Iraq to cost us $10 trillion we’d have to spend as much as the entire world spends on wars and military for the most part of a decade.

Pelosi’s $10 trillion number is, to put it bluntly, just plain stupid.

Comments

10 Trillion that is a lot of money. Yikes. Of course none of us have seen actual proof.


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goon on February 26, 2008 at 06:20 am
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I not sure you read her comment correctly. It appears to read as a 10 year war costing a $1 trillion dollars. She’s still wrong.

SJPhoto67 on February 26, 2008 at 06:25 am
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First, it’s worth noting that nobody wants the war in Iraq to go on forever.

These people do---and the Bush administration is their accomplice.

It’s just that some of us want them to come home victorious.

Define “victory.” Because if you’re looking to turn Iraq into a Jefferson democracy...well, that is never gonna happen. Ergo, the GOP wants to be in Iraq PERMANENTLY.

Only President Obama will end our colonial adventure.

Jack on February 26, 2008 at 06:35 am

Sj I think your right but that still doesn’t seem right as well…


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goon on February 26, 2008 at 06:45 am

It’s Pelosi talking about one of the many things she knows naught of.  Kind of reminds me of Jack


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Rodney Graves on February 26, 2008 at 07:12 am
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She never said “$10 trillion”.  She said “10 year”.

Does “victory” include undoing the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad neighborhoods?

jimmy on February 26, 2008 at 08:02 am
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Sometimes victory is knowing when you have done all you can do and it’s up to the people or country you are trying to help to take the reins and lead thier own country.Although Vietnam was not considered victorious,the country and people have made the best of what they have.Not everyone wants the American life as some presume.We must accept the differences of the world and try to lead by example.

groetzinger on February 26, 2008 at 08:34 am

Of course Pelosi got this wrong.  If we only we could stop this horrible war (eyes rolling) we could give everyone ponies and free health car. What a crock.



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dougee on February 26, 2008 at 10:46 am

A new contributor under the alias of groetzinger informs us:

Although Vietnam was not considered victorious, the country and people have made the best of what they have.

Oh my.

I’ve seen a lot of ignorance on display over the years when it comes to the late unpleasantness in Southeast Asia.  Given the sad state of higher education in general, history specifically, and military history in particular, this is no great surprise.  Our own soi disant military experts have demonstrated this repeatedly, after all. 

But really.

The insurgency in South Vietnam effectively ended with the obliteration of the Vietcong during the Tet offensive.  Far from being a triumph of Vietcong arms, Tet was their death knell.  General Giap would later write that he had moved to soon and that the only victory he could claim from the otherwise disastrous offensive was a propaganda victory.

South Vietnam did not fall to insurgency.

South Vietnam was conquered by a conventional invasion (the second such, the first having been beaten back with American assistance) with conventional forces from the North.  That defeat too was avoidable, but the Congress of the United States prevented the President from fulfilling our treaty obligations to support and help defend South Vietnam.


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Rodney Graves on February 26, 2008 at 10:55 am

I not sure you read her comment correctly. It appears to read as a 10 year war costing a $1 trillion dollars. She’s still wrong.

Agree.  I didn’t think the cost was approaching $1T, but then again, we are barely 5 years into it.

I am not sure how she projects that the war will last another 5 years and cost another $500B though.  I figure it will last until around the third week in January when we immediately withdraw all troops, raise the white flag, and hold meetings with Iran, Syria, and Al Qaeda to figure out how they are gonna divy the place up.

Justin B. on February 26, 2008 at 11:44 am
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