Pelosi: “It’s Almost A False Argument To Say We Have A Spending Problem”

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“It is almost a false argument to say we have a spending problem,” Rep. Nancy Pelosi told Fox News’s Chris Wallace today. “We have a budget deficit problem that we have to address.”

She also said that “tax subsidies” should be targeted for cuts rather than spending programs. And by “tax subsidies” what Pelosi means are tax breaks which allow Americans and businesses to pay less in taxes. In Pelosi’s world of Orwellian fiscal language, giving you a tax break is a “subsidy.”

To be fair, I think there are a lot of tax loopholes, credits and deductions that should be ended in favor of lower overall rates. I believe in tax codes that are simple and broad.

That being said, the idea that we don’t have a spending problem is ridiculous. Despite some significant dips due to recession in 2001 and 2009, total federal tax receipts have increased dramatically since 1992:

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The problem is that spending is growing even faster:

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We have two choices. We can either keep jacking up taxes so that revenues keep parity with expenditures (setting aside the fact that tax hikes can hurt the economy and depress revenues), or we can admit that spending is a problem and implement actual cuts.

Or we can believe in the Democrat fantasy land which holds that increased levels of government spending will somehow inspire tax revenues to pay for it.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Guest

    Yet another delusional post where Rob just can’t deal with the fact that Republicans are the ones who have the spending problem. Spending per GDP was up during Republican administrations and down in Democratic ones, including Obama’s. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zVP9OvAtOoY/TFN6mTIWjOI/AAAAAAAABvY/vFEuDofEqs4/s1600/Federal+Spending+as+GDP.png

    Of course, facts have never stopped Rob before. What a hack!

    • Roy_Bean

      No matter how many times you say it, it’s still a lie.

      • Guest

        Spending as a percent of GDP, you seem to have a severe reading comprehension problem. You haven’t proven anything a lie, moron.

        • exsanguine

          % of GPD is one of those, feel good, ‘blowjob’ numbers that make everyone feel good because it never, ever mentions the actual amount of deficit spending. Ever. What are Emperor Narcissus’ deficits again? jackass.

          • Guest

            It’s funny to see conservatives rewrite history by trying to blame 2009’s deficit on Obama when Bush wrote the budget and submitted it to Congress and it started 4 months before Obama took office. Even the ultra-conserative Cato institue doesn’t blame Obama for 2009’s deficit, jackass. http://www.cato.org/blog/dont-blame-obama-bushs-2009-deficit

    • camsaure

      Why don’t you admit that Bush and other tax and spend Republicans(RINOs) are progressives just like the Democrats. Then your typical “he did it too” argument sort of falls flat doesn’t it?

      • Thresherman

        Because they are not. Name one Republican or Rhino that proposed anything like the Obama’s stimulus program or Obamacare. Are there Republicans that want to spend more than other Republicans? Yes, but that does not put them anywhere near the levels of liberals.

        • WOOF

          Republican stimulus, GW Bush, AKA TARP boy.

          • ‘Tom Crawford

            Continued and INCREASED by Obama. While I don’t agree with Bush on his rubber stamping of spending, Obama has spent more in 4 years than Bush did in 8. Until you start admitting Obama and our current Government has a problem with spending and quit looking backwards and going “but Bush” …”Its Bush’s Fault”….and start owning up to the problems that have not been made better but made worse under Obama then there is no debating or discussing anything with you if all you do is kiss Obama’s rear. I and others are willing to admit to Bush’s and Congress’s spending problems (he cant spend without those who control the purse…that was the Democrats during that time), but he didnt have to rubber stamp their proposed spending, that I fault him for – but Obama has made things worse by making a limping economy stagger and crawl on its knees when it should be pushing and growing out of recession by now, instead the policies enacted and passed, increased spending, kicking the can down the road further, not dealing with what needs to be taken care of….now there is economic talk of sliding back into another recession. I will fault where there is fault, either side, but too bad you throw on blinders.

          • Thresherman

            There is an old saying that you should never answer a question that you do not already know the answer to and in this case I am delighted that WOOF took the bait.

            Here is something that liberals always try to ignore about TARP:

            “As of December 31, 2012, the Treasury had received over $405 billion in total cash back on TARP investments, equaling nearly 97 percent of the $418 billion disbursed under the program.”

            Huh, 97% percent paid back, which the Democrats then spent again as fast it came in mind you, but the the cost right now to the taxpayer is 15 billion and that will continue to fall and it looks as if the taxpayer may make a profit on this.

            Man that is sooooooo much like Obama’s nearly trillion dollar stimulus, that “one time expenditure” that has been pretty much baseline budgeted into an annual expense to the taxpayer. That is also why although I want another Reagan, I will settle for a Bush or a Romney over an Obama or Kerry. On their worst days, a Rhino is still 10 times better than your standard liberal.

          • WOOF

            You are agreeing that stimulus works.

        • camsaure

          Respectfull Thresherman, do you know what a progressive really is? GW Bush is one and so is his father GH. Teddfy Roosevelt was probably the first Republican progressive. The progressive movement was and is intended to slowly move the country to socialism without having to resort to a violent takeover. Look up “Fabian Socialist” and the “progressive movement” on Google and you will find plenty both pro and con about the subject. Ever wonder why the Republicans don’t ever bother to reverse socialism that was passed and advanced by the Democrats, rather they onlt seem to slow the advance slightly? GW Bush did plenty to advance the progressive agenda and any movement to the left is bad. RINOs be damned.

          • Thresherman

            Why is it that anyone who isn’t a hardcore conservative must be a liberal in hiding? Yes Bush did some things that I did not approve of, but he also did some things that I strongly approved of. He tried to head off the housing bubble collapse by revamping the CRA but the Democrats and media pilloried him for that just as they did when he tried to privatize part of social security. These are hardly the acts of a socialist in hiding.

            Simply put, it is impossible to ideologically pure and succeed in politics. I agree that compromises seem to be favoring liberal views now, but to concede everything to them rather than accept partial success is asinine.

          • camsaure

            “These are hardly the acts of a socialist in hiding” Because Bush does not have the same hate for the US as obama does. Progressive Republicans move slower to the left then Dems, but the direction is the SAME.
            Ideologically pure…. Why is it so radical to expect our elected officials(ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS) to abide by and respect our constitution?
            Yes Bush was and is way better then Obuma and did do some things I also approved of, that said I also strongly disapprove of several things he did. Some of those Obama simply grossly expanded on. Wrong on both sides.
            I have to ask you what do you think of Bush’s “archetect” Carl Rove of late? His true colors are starting to show.

        • camsaure

          I usually agree with most everything in your posts, but I would like to repspectfully point out that Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Mitch McConnel and John Bohner are also all progressives. Yes, you are correct Obama has really accelerated the advance to the left and I also sometimes wonder if he really has become impatient and would like to start violence to help implement his agenda. Actually I think the left has been poised for quite a long time to move just so. I am sure that Algore, Hillary and John Kerry would have been just as divisive and impatient in their implementation of their socialism also. Seems like just before every election in the past 4 or 5 cycles the Dems and the media have always tried to convince or orchestrate a recession so in case their candidate won they could pretend to “save us” by implementing more socialism ala FDR methods. Bush and his “compasionate conservatism” was just a code word for progressivism. Ask yourself what is a “compassionate consevative” Does that somhow mean Conservatives and Republicans are mean? Does that mean he really didn’t believe in conservatism? The Dept of Homland Security ( which GW started) is really compasionate aren’t they? The liberal Damocrats are now somewhat admitting that they are all in for socialism, But sadly the RINOs in the Republican party are still being very dishonest in what they really believe. I refuse to respect them for just that reason as well as other reasons. The only good or usefull thing about RINOs is that if they have an “R” by their name it is towards the goal of having Republican majorities. They sure as hell should not be in control of the party for any longer at all. The RINOs also have been very sucessful at demoralizing the conservative base. It should be obvious that that is why so many of the base sat out the recent election. How about in ND the Republicans made very certain to make known to libertarians that they had no room for them in the Republican party(as well as conservatives) at the convention. What happened? It helped Hidey Ho get elected. I suppose the RINOs don’t care anyhow as the progressive agenda is advanced, they probably agree with it, but can blame the Democrats(and still many hold their positions of power). Hardly at all respectable in my opinion, but rather despicable.

          • Thresherman

            Look, I hardly favor moving things to the left, but when choice comes between Gore and Bush or Kerry and Bush or McCain and Obama or Romney or Obama, I am not going cut off my nose to spite my face. The problem is not that I do not want another Reagan, we simply do not have one on the radar screen for the next election and haven’t had one for a while. All I am saying is absent that, we are better off with a Bush or a Romney than a liberal. Remember, had McCain won, we would would not have Obamacare and our deficit would be trillions less. Yes there would be stuff we would not like, but overall we would be in better shape than we are now. That is not to say that it couldn’t be better but we are a damn sight worse off than we would be otherwise.

          • camsaure

            Well I have to say that I DO agree with you on what yuou just stated. The problem is we could and should do much better. The reason in my opinion that we do not have another “Reagan” on the radar screen is due to the current leadership whom despise conservatives. That needs to change, and needs to change now. The RINOs all vehemently opposed Reagan in his time and still do. But we must remember how popular he really was in spite of what the RINOs try to tell us.

    • Lenny

      “that Republicans are the ones who have the spending problem.”

      Spending $6trillion in 4 years that we didn’t have So, obama is actually a republican? And here everyone thought he was a Marxist..

      • Guest

        He’s still brought spending as a percent of GDP down from where Bush left it. It’s okay though, we all know Republicans are unable to accept reality when it conflicts with their pre-determined but completely baseless facts.

    • Onslaught1066

      Yet another delusional post where gusty just cant separate fact from opinion.

      Of course, facts have never come within a country mile of gusty. what a hack!

      • Guest

        LOL at Onshat1066 who thinks a graph showing spending as percent of GDP and physical address of a Senator’s office are “opinions.” I truly get a laugh at your pathetically retarded posts everytime!

        Oh Onshat1066, you’re such a sh*thead!

        • Onslaught1066

          The retarded are easily amused.

          Not so easy is for one of them to stumble across a fact during their daily meanderings.

          • Guest

            “The retarded are easily amused.”

            If Shaton1066 thinks the physical address of a Senator and the GDP to spending ratios are opinions, he is indeed easily amused. No wonder he spends so much of his pathetic life here!

            Oh Onshat1066, you’re such a sh*thead!

          • Onslaught1066

            The retarded tend to repetitive sound vocalizations as the buzzing feels good to them.

            It’s easier to cobble together a pleasant sound vibration from opinion than to find a fact that produces the same harmonics.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I’m not sure I said Republicans didn’t have a spending problem.

      I’m pretty sure I pointed out that spending went up faster than revenues throughout the time windows regardless of which party held power.

  • zipity

    It’s also a false argument the say this botox laced moron has average intelligence…

  • KrackerX

    “almost false” = “not false” = “true”

  • JoeMN

    It seems like yesterday that the Democrats insisted we had no spending problem at all.

    Now Democrats partially deny.

    Prepare yourselves for the day Democrats must suddenly take on Guest’s strategy of blaming it ALL on Republicans

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-06/what-us-government-spent-its-money-last-quarter

    • zipity

      Um…that day started the day GW Bush left office…and will continue until the sun burns out.

      And they say Reagan was the “Teflon President”. Ronnie didn’t have the entire LameStream Media© covering his ass.

      Obama would probably deny he was his children’s father if it would advance his far-Left Liberal Agenda.

    • Wayne

      That has always been their strategy. The amazing thing is that it works on their sheeple.

  • WOOF

    The spending problem is that not enough is being spent.

    • ‘Tom Crawford

      Please enlighten us on the trillions being spent, where is the government not spending enough? How much more is enough? How much more are you willing to pony up to foot the bill for increased spending?

      • mickey_moussaoui

        tom,

        woof is a gimmecrat. He is most likely on the receiving end of this entitlement orgy

    • mickey_moussaoui

      $16 trillion and counting

    • Thresherman

      Then cash out all your assets and set them Obama. Failing that, you are not willing to pay for what you demand.

  • ‘Tom Crawford

    “It’s ALMOST….”
    Well I guess it is then.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    I look at Pelosi and I think “term limits”.
    BTW, she is a multimillionair and you know damn well know she is using every tax dodge in the books

  • Geeman

    there needs to be competency hearing, because that statement is SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • headward

    Look at the Bush tax cuts cutting revenue…wait it didn’t.

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