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The logical extension of abortion on demand and partial-birth abortion.  53 million and counting.

And let’s not forget this gem.

Man throws two sons off South Beach hotel balcony, then jumps to own death: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

If unborn babies aren’t valuable, then why are kids who have been born?

Steve:  Abortion cheapens life.  True that.

My husband’s family had some serious medical problems, which helped convince us not to have kids (that and triplets on both sides and twins on his). 

I’m totally with the forum’s popular opinion on this one.

Should state that so that EVERYONE can understand it, even Robert.

You can choose NOT to have children before they are conceived.  There are times you can’t of course, but abortion has become too close to birth control for some people, including an old high school friend of mine who had three like getting her nails done, then gave her fourth away.

But, having said that, the attitude here of the regulars toward killing children in Iraq belies their concern for babies and children.

It’s the terrorists who are killing non-combatants in Iraq.  Even you can understand that, if you choose to.
About 90% of the time, abortion is birth control.
“...an old high school friend of mine who had three like getting her nails done, then gave her fourth away.” Like throwing away an old Wet-Wipe?

Exactly like that.  And like what our Marines are doing to 2-year-old children and others, apprently; according to the Pentagon.

Alleged to have done.  You really hope it’s true, don’t you?

Well in your world Dhiane moral equivalence is everything, you are perfectly happy when Palestinians blow up Israeli children, so why are you complaining when Marines do it?

Well, McCrackpot, you are just so wrong, aren’t you?  I think all killing is horrendous.

That’s why I’m consistent and you’re not.

It’s all about partisanship, not principle.  Typical leftie thinking.

Yes Dhiane a “foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

Were you thinking of that line when you were describing yourself?

Yes Dhiane a “foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

Ken McCracken on May 29, 2006 at 8:54 PM

No, actually Crackpot, I was thinking of a verse Pastor Gene might have heard somewhere in his Bible studies on how ‘a double minded man is unstable in all his ways.’

However, didn’t I hear you ‘guys’, McCrackpot, drooling and fawning over Dufus Bush’s, oh shoot, how did it go?  Oh yes:

He Is Very Much What He Ever Was
By Bat1 on May 24, 2006 at 11:27 PM 19 Comments

Geez Dhiane, you don’t even know how to cut and paste.

"I think all killing is horrendous.”
Another lie.  You think the killing of US servicemen and Christians is just fine.  You also ignore all the people who Saddam killed.  Not so consistent there, but consistent in your partisanship.

Yes and she cheers when Palestinians kill Israelis.

Consistency of principles is good, consistency of partisanship is bad.  Get it?

Geez Dhiane, you don’t even know how to cut and paste.

Ken McCracken on May 29, 2006 at 8:59 PM

Not a high priority, McCracken.  No money in it.

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You think the killing of US servicemen and Christians is just fine. You also ignore all the people who Saddam killed. Not so consistent there, but consistent in your partisanship.

...Yes and she cheers when Palestinians kill Israelis.

There they go comparing Bush and themselves to Saddam again.  Consistent.

And, I don’t cheer when anyone kills anyone, you absolute numbskulls.

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Consistency of principles is good, consistency of partisanship is bad. Get it?

robert108 on May 29, 2006 at 9:01 PM

Oh yeah.  Now when will you guys?

I’d love to keep this stimulating discussion going, but I’ll be back.

Oh, goody. Off to fill your swimming pool with the blood of Iraqi children?

"And, I don’t cheer when anyone kills anyone, you absolute numbskulls.”

Once again, you lie. You also never criticize the terrorists when they kill women and children.  You excuse it.  They also kill civilians by masquerading as civilians and mixing with the civilian populations.  They are cowards.

Glad you remembered, Brooke.  What was it, seven swimming pools that could be filled with all the blood of innocent Iraqis killed by your war on Iraqis??

diane, a liar?  Perish the thought.  I told you guys to stop feeding the trolls, but nooooooooo...you had to keep it up.  Now look what happens, she’s becoming a regular.

Regards…

diane: Most of them were killed by the terrorists.  You always leave out that little detail.  By using the civilians as cover, the cowardly jihadis encourage the death of the innocent. They also just outright kill the civilians in their ongoing media war.  You never mention that, either.  The mass graves are from Saddam and the terrorists.

LTM: She’s already a regular liar and hater.

And so the Superman is soon arriving. Eliminating the weak, here is where the truth of equality stands, after all what is living? who can honestly compare a healthy child to a birth defected one?

Why not strive to produce a Superman? Weed out all genetic flaws,but for piety, piety is destructiveness. In the cruelty of nature shines tommorows sun.

When a bird dont fly it dies, and so should the incapable, When one half of America holds the other half up, this is a sin.

Abortion is murder regardless of the circumstances, but by what definition are we concidered Human? striving for the Superman is the future, babies who will forever be dependent for care are dead already.

If America adapts natures survival of the fittest concept she will take leaps not crawl. Which way America? And at what cost? for the world does not owe you a living at leaste not natures world.

she’s becoming a regular.

LoadTheMule on May 29, 2006 at 11:30 PM

There is an overload of Bush fanatacism on this board that needs a serious dousing with the fresh, cool, clean water of reality.  Just think of me as the Water Carrier for that purpose.  You already think of me as a water carrier, so it should be easy.

Since Mule and Bobby toss around the word ‘liar’ like it’s a hot potato, I’d like one of them to extrapolate and list the lies I’ve told on this board along with my posts where I’ve said these ‘lies’.

If not, I’d like them to shut the heck up.

You continue to lie, you get called on it.  You know the lies you tell.  Stop lying, and you will not be called a liar.

There is an overload of Bush fanatacism on this board that needs a serious dousing with the fresh, cool, clean water of reality.

Point out even a single post where I have “carried the water” for Bush.  Go head, find one.  And when you don’t--because you can’t--stop lumping me in with the others to whom you keep referring.  As for…

Since Mule and Bobby toss around the word ‘liar’ like it’s a hot potato, I’d like one of them to extrapolate and list the lies I’ve told on this board along with my posts where I’ve said these ‘lies’.

My name is LoadTheMule, or LTM if you prefer, not ‘Mule’ or any of the other perjoratives you so loosely sling.  Just as yours is diane, which is all I’ve ever addressed you as.

Lies?  You lied about leaving, diane.  Then made a big deal out of staying because ‘people’ asked you to when, in fact, only one person asked you to.  You also lie every time you lump me in with what you call the right-wing fanaticists here.  If you don’t even have the common courtesy to keep the players straight, perhaps you’re the one who needs to STFU.

Regards…

Glad you remembered, Brooke. What was it, seven swimming pools that could be filled with all the blood of innocent Iraqis killed by your war on Iraqis??

Dhiane, how could I forget something so blatantly ridiculous?

Reminds me of Communist China.
I won’t even dignify the offhand smears about accidents with a reply.  Certain people have no idea what is going on in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Horn of Africa, Colombia and 70+ other locations our military are deployed.  This post is about abortion, and more precisely, is a person justified in intentionally killing (murder) of another human being without a consequence.  Killing babies by drowning, throwing them off tall buildings, throwing them against walls and various other ways are examples of intentional killing.  Accidents on the highways, brakes failing, policemen’s bullets richocheting off walls and killing children are not.  Gangs who illegally discharge weapons and then kill children would or should be charged with at least second degree murder, but some don’t want to talk about that.

1. this is the most disgusting thing I have ever thought or heard of it needs to be band omg when will some one just shoot bush?

The lefties are always telling us who they are.

this is the most disgusting thing I have ever thought or heard of it needs to be band omg when will some one just shoot bush?

You really do need to put some effort into your posts, Tiffany.  Punctuation counts unless you’re a pre-schooler.  The word is banned unless you mean it needs to be a violin or tuba.  And I’m sure the Secret Service will be interested in your last comment.

Get a grip.

Regards…

Dhiane, how could I forget something so blatantly ridiculous?

Brooke on May 30, 2006 at 7:04 AM

I find the word ‘ridiculous’ inappropriate here.  It’s a graphic portrayal of how many innocent Iraqis have died.

You could swim in their blood. 

And now we find that apparently the Marines have added another wading pool full of it in the most gruesome manner possible.

Are you proud of what our country has become?

I’m certainly not.

Diane, ‘graphic portrayals’ are often ridiculous, and yours is no exception.

I am proud of our country; it is despite it’s faults the greatest on Earth.

If only we could get rid of dhimmi leftists and spineless Republicans.

Is an “undesireable” person any less human after birth? Is someone with a mental disability more disposable than someone without?

Diane, ‘graphic portrayals’ are often ridiculous, and yours is no exception.

I am proud of our country; it is despite it’s faults the greatest on Earth.

If only we could get rid of dhimmi leftists and spineless Republicans.

Brooke on May 30, 2006 at 2:54 PM

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Fortunately, you cannot. 

Graphic portrayals are the best way to get a point across to people who can’t get it any other way.

Happy swimming!  And pleasant dreams!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13053200/

What happened in Haditha, Iraq?
Witnesses and others tell a consistent story as the Pentagon investigates

On Tuesday, for the first time, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki spoke about the Haditha case. He said that Iraqi and multinational forces must respect human rights and the rights of Iraqi citizens, and a family cannot be killed because someone is fighting terrorists

GET IT, BROOKE????

Witnesses say Marines search the area for the bomber. They storm a house directly across from the attack, shooting as they approach.

A video shot by a local journalism student purports to show the bloody aftermath of what happened. Inside are 77-year-old Abdul Hamid — blind and in a wheelchair — his 66-year-old wife and others: sons, daughters-in-law and grandchildren.

Local coroners’ reports obtained by NBC News say Abdul Hamid was shot in the stomach and head. The reports say his wife and five other relatives were also killed by multiple gunshot wounds.

Four inside the house survived, including 9-year-old Iman.

“The Americans came into the room where my father was praying and shot him. Then they went to my grandmother and killed her, too,” Iman says.

During the raid, Abdul Hamid’s house caught fire. Witnesses say Marines then moved next door to the house of Younis Hamid. Nine people were inside, and eight were killed — five of them children.

Twelve-year-old Safa says she survived by hiding under the bed.

“They came in and shot all of us,” she says. “I pretended I was dead.”

Witnesses say Marines then moves to a third location — a taxi parked by the side of the road. In it, residents say, were four university students and a driver. A witness watching from a nearby rooftop says Marines took the five men out of the car and executed them.

The driver screamed in English, “Please, please!” but they shot him in the body.

Other witnesses say two hours passed as more Marines and helicopters arrived to lock down the neighborhood.

Around 10:30 a.m., Marines stormed the house of Eid Ahmed, where they allegedly separate his four sons from the women and children — and killed the men.

Nine-year-old Khalid was in the house.

“This is my father!” he screams. “God will take my revenge!”

NBC News asked the U.S. military to comment on this report. So far, the U.S. military here in Iraq only said that it takes the allegations seriously but cannot comment on ongoing investigations.

Gee, Diane, I’s sure all of that is as untainted by your beloved media as the driven snow.

I will sleep well tonight, because I know that my country is inherently good.

If Haditha turns out to be a true, then those Marines will face charges, as they should.

But you’ve already got them tried, convicted and executed, and all because you hate our troops and President.

Where are you, Diane, when troops give out their own food rations to children? Where are you when the soldier’s wives scour yard sales for clothing and shoes so that our soldiers can hand them out to civilians? Where are you when schools are opened, and decades old power and sewage grids are rebuilt? Where are your words of praise when Iraqi police and military officers hug and thank our men and women in uniform for being there? Where are you when women, clad in the hijab are finally, finally able to vote, and send their daughters to school?

And Diane, where are your words of condemnation for the foriegn terrorists who blow up children and women all for the hopes of getting 72 virgins? Where are your words of condemnation for the cries of “Allah Akbar” when innocents are slaughtered? Where is your condemnation for the thugs who dare not put on a uniform and stand to be counted for anything?

What you don’t say, Diane, is louder and more vile than the bilge that you pound out on your keyboard.

And what you say is evidence of a programmed idiot American, Brooke. 

Where are you when a sick Iraqi can’t get medical help because we’ve torn their country apart?  Where are you when they have to wait hours in gas lines in dangerous circumstances?
Where are you when their children are blown to bits by some U.S. soldier with F U Iraq written on the side of his bomb????

You’re probably at a Republican Woman’s Tea fundraising for the immoral war.

What a loser.

Brooke, you are wasting time. Best course of action is to crap on Dhimi, the way its husband and his Mullah do. Makes it feel loved. And that is really sad.

Hitting the bottle hard today, eh DoughBoy?

Hitting the bottle hard today, eh DoughBoy.

No, actually. Getting ready to go and do a night shoot. Yesterday morning’s MadMinute salute kind of inspired us to do some serious shooting. Gonna work the 250 to 500 meter range, with flare illumination. Got some troops getting ready to go across the water, figure we can give them some extra trigger time. Uncle’s got them cut back to the bare minimum anymore.

Oh! And thanks! Compliments come from the strangest places.

Love that killing stuff, dontcha?  I’ve suspected for some time our military must have high rates of alkies.  I know they’re getting gang members now.  Most decent people just don’t want to be a part of the killing fields.

Must run, ta ta.

Funny how Dhiane manages to turn every subject, regardless of the thread topic, into a diatribe on Iraq replete with half-cooked thoughts, sterotypical insults and “graphic portrayals.”

TwoHotel9, good luck on your shooting. It is folks like you who will save Dhiane from dhimmitude, whether she likes it or not.

I hope YOU sleep well tonight, Dhiane, at the expense of those whom you call murderous, alcoholic gang members.

Oh, I don’t call them that Brooke. I just report what the government and the media is saying about them:

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh284/179-181.htm

ALCOHOL USE AND PREVENTING ALCOHOL-RELATED PROBLEMS AMONG YOUNG ADULTS IN THE MILITARY

Heavy alcohol use remains a persistent problem in the U.S. military and is especially prevalent among young adult (18- to 25-year-old) service members. According to Drs. Genevieve Ames and Carol Cunradi, certain characteristics of the military culture may contribute to heavy drinking in this population. The authors compare the rates of alcohol use among young adults in all four branches of the military with rates for young adult civilians, including college students. In addition to describing the relevant risk factors, such as a workplace culture in which alcohol is accepted as a way to deal with stress, boredom, and loneliness, the article also examines strategies that may help mitigate risk and reduce heavy drinking in this group. Research is needed to evaluate these strategies, which included alcohol use policies, making alcohol use less glamorous, and promoting overall good health.

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AND I’M SURE YOU TRUST THIS SOURCE:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005130.htm

GANGSTAS IN THE MILITARY
By Michelle Malkin · May 04, 2006 01:00 PM
Been meaning to get to this disturbing Chicago Sun-Times story on gangbangers in the US armed forces. Reporter Frank Main publicized photos taken by Army reservist Jeffrey Stoleson in Iraq. These are just a few of hundreds of images of defaced military vehicles, barricades, etc., that Stoleson has snapped:

GO TO LINK FOR PHOTOS OF THE KIND OF TRASH AMERICANS IRAQIS HAVE TO FACE

The problem is a longstanding one, but according to Stoleson, higher-ups discourage troops from calling attention to it: Main reports:

“I have identified 320 soldiers as gang members from April 2002 to present,” said Scott Barfield, a Defense Department gang detective at Fort Lewis in Washington state. “I think that’s the tip of the iceberg.”
Of paramount concern is whether gang-affiliated soldiers’ training will make them deadly urban warriors when they return to civilian life and if some are using their access to military equipment to supply gangs at home, said Barfield and other experts.

‘They don’t try to hide it’

Jeffrey Stoleson, an Army Reserve sergeant in Iraq for almost a year, said he has taken hundreds of photos of gang graffiti there.

In a storage yard in Taji, about 18 miles north of Baghdad, dozens of tanks were vandalized with painted gang symbols, Stoleson said in a phone interview from Iraq. He said he also took pictures of graffiti at Camp Scania, about 108 miles southeast of Baghdad, and Camp Anaconda, about 40 miles north of Baghdad. Much of the graffiti was by Chicago-based gangs, he said.

...Because of the extreme danger of his mission in Iraq, Stoleson said he does not relish the idea of working alongside gang members, whom he does not trust. Stoleson said he once reported to a supervisor that he suspected a company of soldiers in Iraq was rife with gang members.

“My E-8 [supervising sergeant] told me not to ruffle their feathers because they were doing a good job,” he said.

Stoleson said he has spotted soldiers in Iraq with tattoos signifying their allegiance to the Vice Lords and the Simon City Royals, another street gang spawned in Chicago.

“They don’t try to hide it,” Stoleson said.

The safety concerns are not hypothetical. Last year, I reported on a cop-killing Marine, Lance Corporal Andres Raya--who had been caught on videotape with Latino gang members smoking marijuana and throwing gang signs after breaking into a school gym, stealing computer equipment, tearing up an American flag, and spelling out “F--- BUSH” with the pieces--which were left on the gym floor.

As I noted at the time, the question isn’t what got into Raya when he entered the military. The question is why and how Raya—who police say had a propensity for violence well before he joined the Marines—got into our military in the first place. Few have challenged the Pentagon’s decision to let admitted illegal aliens--some using illegal fake documents-- join the armed forces. Now, the FBI has assigned investigators to probe ties between US soldiers and gang alliances:

Of particular concern are reports that the Folk Nation, consisting of more than a dozen gangs in the Chicago area, is placing young members in the military in an effort to gather information about weapons and tactics, said FBI Special Agent Andrea Simmons, who is based in El Paso, Texas.
“Our understanding is that they find members without a criminal history so that they can join, and once they get out, they will have a new set of skills that they can apply to criminal enterprises,” Simmons said. “This could be a concern for any law enforcement agency that has to deal with gangs on a daily basis.”

Chicago gang symbols can be found amid other graffiti, mostly in latrines on U.S. military bases such as Camp Fallujah in Iraq’s Anbar Province.

There’s an interesting discussion over at Military.com.

The White House seems to be shrugging off the reports.

Question: Do we really want thugs who mark their territory like animals and swear allegiance to criminal enterprises serving in uniform? Are we nuts?

The question answers itself.

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And yet, Brooke pontificates:

I hope YOU sleep well tonight, Dhiane, at the expense of those whom you call murderous, alcoholic gang members.

Michelle Malkin calls them that, the government calls them that, Bhrooke.

See, Brooke? Cut&paste bullshit. No real world expirence. Just another teenybopper talking to adult its parents don’t know about. Now it will hop in and say how it is so old and has its own business and blahblahblah. Just another teenybopper, who thinks it is CCOOLL to shit all over America.

Teenybopper again!  Ouch!  Whassamatter, Boy...didn’t the shooting go well tonight?

Oh well, another sixpack out to make it all better.

Diane, I have a question for you:

Where were you when three teenage christian students were kidnapped and DECAPITATED by your poor little misunderstood Iraqis?

Where were you when women and children were made to watch their father and husband flayed alive because Saddam thought their father was a political enemy?

Where were you when mass graves, (the REAL graves, not the ones made up in the Salon story you love to quote so much), were uncovered?

Where were you when Iraqi men and women braved those you and your ilk call minutemen to vote for a democratic government?

Most importantly, where the fuck where you when 3,000 of YOUR OWN CONTRYMEN were murdered before your very eyes?

My guess?

You were sitting in the local starbucks, talking to your fellow socialist wannabe silver spoon fed America hating ilk, who have NOT ONE FUCKING CLUE what people like Casey Sheehan and Pat Tillman sacrificed so you can come here and desecrate their memories.

See Diane, your problem isn’t that you are a liberal; your problem is you hate America and all it stands for. At some point during your sheltered life, you were programmed by some liberal hack professor whose closest attempt at being a real man was when he put on a fake Army costume for halloween to believe that all the people who stand in the shadows and bleed for you are not only wrong, but immoral. Your need to repetitavely bash our military and our country as a whole, while giving a COMPLETE PASS to any wrongdoing by Al-Quida is not only ignorant, but extremely selfish and arrogant. There are millions of people around the world who would kill for the chance to have what you have, and look how you show your gratitude. Maybe if you actually had to work for something a day in your life, then you could begin to grasp what scarifices were made on your behalf to make this nation great.

But here you sit, on a weekend dedicated to rememberance of our soldiers, spitting on their graves. How very American of you Diane.

But that isn’t the truely pathetic thing. What’s truely pathetic is the fact that you actually believe you are speaking truth to power when you engage in this shameless insulting of our soldiers, while explaining away the actions of those who engage in horrific atrocities against their OWN PEOPLE.

In conclusion, I would like to be the first of many to let you know that if you feel like this:

“Are you proud of what our country has become?

I’m certainly not.” - Diane

You can kindly GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY, YOU ANTI-AMERICAN WHORE.

That is all.

Well said, Veritas. Dhiane is the apex of liberal hypocrisy.

Oh, by the way Dhimi diane, the shooting went very well. Thanks for being concerned.

Gee, I wonder who hijacked this at one time interesting thread?

I see your right on top of things as usual, davey.

What the.... Dave, you realize this thread died a long time ago, right?

Sphag: I’d just been reading through it again. It starts off both germane and interesting....up until the time Diane started posting. :(

Something we can ALL agree on!

Dave: True that!