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Gees, Rob, stop already.  Only 22 NDers gave to Pomeroy according to FEC reports.  I don’t see my name and I donated to Earl. So what is the required reportable amount?  $100? $200?

Now let’s take a look at some of the groups listed:  Rural electrics:  ah they are in ND
Aetna:  operates in ND
AFLAC:  operates in ND
Allstate:  operates in ND
ND Physicians, Opthamologists, Bankers nurses, radiologists, surgeons Dentists hospitals all belong to national associations and most probably donate to those national association PACS. just because those groups aren’t based in ND doesn’t mean that North Dakotans aren’t donating to those groups.

Get a grip!

Doesn’t North Dakota get most of its money from out-of state taxpayers via the federal government?

Puzzled,

Now let’s take a look at some of the groups listed:  Rural electrics:  ah they are in ND
Aetna:  operates in ND
AFLAC:  operates in ND
Allstate:  operates in ND
ND Physicians, Opthamologists, Bankers nurses, radiologists, surgeons Dentists hospitals all belong to national associations and most probably donate to those national association PACS. just because those groups aren’t based in ND doesn’t mean that North Dakotans aren’t donating to those groups.

From the post:

There’s no very easy way to quantify which of these groups represent North Dakota interests and which don’t as many national special interest groups (those representing agriculture interests, for instance) undoubtedly have a North Dakota constituency.

Learn to read.

As for this:

Gees, Rob, stop already.  Only 22 NDers gave to Pomeroy according to FEC reports.  I don’t see my name and I donated to Earl. So what is the required reportable amount?  $100? $200?

$200, so fair point.  But are you really going to tell me there’s enough contributions under $200 from North Dakotans to make any difference?

Earl Pomeroy is bought and paid for by out of state interests.  You know.  I know it.  The least you could do is be honest about it.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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And before anyone tries to explain this away by saying all the North Dakotans are contributing smaller-than-reportable amounts, let’s remember that Pomeroy could voluntarily report all of his contributions but doesn’t.

Election cycle after election cycle, Earl Pomeroy gets most of his money from out of state.  And he should be criticized for it.  If he actually had to campaign on the money he raised in North Dakota, he wouldn’t be able to campaign at all.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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You claimed they were out of state interests,I pointed out there were NDers in those groups. You claim you can’t quantify which of those groups have ND interests.  I think it is pretty easy to quantify those groups. You however, jump to the conclusion that Pomeroy is bought and paid for by out of state interests. 

You make conclusions and then add well,maybe not tho, because you don’t want to quantify those organizations and the members they have in North Dakota.  Also only federal pacs can give to federal candidates.  So a group of physicians from North Dakota could only give individually and not from a group of ND physicians or workers or investigators etc.

Your problem is that you can’t find a republican who will take on Pomeroy and have any shot of beating him.  NDers like him and they keep voting for him.  You wrote misleading headline and a misleading post at least you can be honest about that.

Wow.  Did you break your keyboard typing that rambling, intemperate reply?  I can almost here the keys crackling from here.

I can always tell when I’m over the target with you, Puzzled.  You get so angry.

I fully admit that many of the groups that contributed to Pomeroy have ND constituencies.  That’s a fair point, and one I made myself in the post.  But even so, the fact is only three of those groups are actually based in North Dakota.

So spin all you want.  Earl Pomeroy still gets the vast majority of his political money from out of state interests.

This is undeniable fact.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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Actually, I’m not angry Rob, can’t be; watching the Daily show while blogging tonight.

simply pointing out your misleading headline and misleading posting.

With the loss of federalism and the emergence of the entitlement society, this pork barrel guy affects all of America. Therefore, all of America should be represented in some way. The money and the influence it buys are the representation.

It’s a shitty situation, especially if you’re from North Dakota, but that’s what we get with the loss of federalism.

The Democrats don’t seem to mind, but then again they don’t support local control/federalism. They support consolidation of power, so the out of state money isn’t even on their radar.

Actually, I’m not angry Rob,

Sure you’re not.

simply pointing out your misleading headline and misleading posting.

Nothing misleading about it.  According to the FEC, exactly 22 North Dakotans contributed to Earl Pomeroy.  This is fact.

What’s also fact is that Pomeroy gets the vast majority of his money from out of state.

Nothing you can say will change these things.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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How big is Puzzlefeet’s government check?

North Dakota can’t afford even
one US Senator.

Hey Kevin, not one dime from federal or state money.Perhaps you should know what you’re talking about. But as usual Kevin, you are a one trick pony.

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The rest of the contributors are not people Earl Pomeroy represents in Congress.

You can’t put a chink in his armor and whine about out of state contributions and cry to the press who doesn’t listen to your whining.

Notice puzz has no problem with a Democrat getting the majority of their campaign money from outside of the state they are supposed to represent. And yet a little over a year ago she was screeching about how a Republican was dirty for doing the same thing. My, how the worm has turned.

Kevin, she gets a pile of money each month from the Feds, she is on SS.

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You have to be specific orr face charges of inaccuracy because, well, you’re being inaccurate. Most North Dakotans do in fact contribute in amounts less than $200. I don’t know since I haven’t looked at the figure, but I doubt those dollar totals exceed the amounts given by outside special interests.

But there’s another way to describe this, the way the delegation usually does: “Of the 1,000 total contributions made to my campaign, 950 came from North Dakotans.” Or whatever the figure is. That doesn’t refute the point that Pomeroy et al. are subsidiaries of out-of-state interests, but it does make the point that they are in fact supported by North Dakotans, too.

Kevin, she gets a pile of money each month from the Feds, she is on SS.

watch his voting record, you will realize that he is not voiting in a way that represents the average North Dakotan

go ron paul

2h9, Liar, I am not on Social Security, way too young. god it feels good to write that.

2h9 writes:  And yet a little over a year ago she was screeching about how a Republican was dirty for doing the same thing Proof please.

Really? Since when was 66 too young for SS?

And are you changing your position in regards to Duane Sands? You crapped all over him for accepting out of state money AND money from RNC, but now it is alright. Really?

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2h9, since I am well under 66 and won’t be eligible for many years.  Do a bit better research. 

No, I’m not changing my position on Duane Sand, just pointing out that your guys accept out of state money as well and don’t complain unless it’s a democrat. just trying to keep you honest which is really hard to do.

2h9, since I am well under 66 and won’t be eligible for many years.  Do a bit better research. 

No, I’m not changing my position on Duane Sand, just pointing out that your guys accept out of state money as well and don’t complain unless it’s a democrat. just trying to keep you honest which is really hard to do.

Puzzle,

How many more times are you going to point out that you are not yet 66 years old?

Those of us on/in the Right don’t judge people on their age… or their race or gender as Democrats do, according to Chris Matthews.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

So, last winter when you wailed&cried that the only thing keeping you from having to survive on only your SS benefits was your Union assured retirement you were lying? Nice to clear that up.

As for Mr Sand, the majority of his campaign money was collected in North Dakota, as Rob and Toot pointed out. You screeched that because he accepted ANY money from out of state made him corrupt. To which Toot supplied the first chart showing over 90% of Pomeroy’s money came from outside ND. All of this brought up in threads about Conrad and his fake ND residency.

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No, I wasn’t lying, just pointing out that I have a retirement plan in place, not that I was retired. Never wrote it, too bad you can’t read well.

Never claimed it made him corrupt, again you lie.  Please show proof that I claimed Sand was corrupt. Again, what you write doesn’t prove anything.  Nice try though.

B1, it is 2h9 who claimed I was 66, simply pointing out I am not for the record.  How the double post occured I don’t know. Lighten up!

Sweety, want proof of something? Perhaps your boy Pomeroy will provide the complete listing of ALL donations, instead of playing the slimy lawyer and hiding the true levels of contributions. What say, sweety? Think your boy is up to the Pepsi challenge?

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How the double post occured I don’t know.

Puzzle,

I believe that in your case the correct phrase would be, “I haven’t a clue.”

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

oooooh, ouch, B1, you hurt my feelings, but I’ll just have to go on!

2h9 baby, there you go again, can’t find any facts to back up your lies so you move on.  let’s see, Rob makes an allegation then you say, Hey Pomeroy prove it’s not true.  Pretty typical of you righties.

Why will your boy not provide a complete listing of his donors?

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Let’s see, hmmm,Rob mischaracterizes and misleads with his post using innuendo and then you demand that Pomeroy list all his donors.  Of course that’s how all you righties think things should happen, throw mud, hope it sticks and then demand that someone prove otherwise.  Apparently that’s how things work in your rightie world.  You made the allegations you prove it.

So, why does he refuse to list all of his donors?

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Prove that he refused to list all his donors.

According to the FEC he has supplied only limited listing. And at his page there are no listings or other information. You would think that he would proudly list all those thousands of NoDaks who have contributed. But no. Just a come on to get more money. So, why is he ashamed of where his money comes from?

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2h9, Prove that he is ashamed of where his money comes from.  He lists every pac which you guys just hate.  You keep making proofless allegations.  Keep trying 2h9, keep trying.  Perhaps Rob, should send a missive to Pomeroy’s office asking for the full list in the interest of openess and transparency and perhaps Rob, should send a missive to the ND Americans for Prosperity asking them for a complete list of their donations and how that group is funded.  Keep going 2h9.

Why is he ashamed of where his money comes from?

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