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Saturday, April 19, 2008

Oklahoma City Bombing Was 13 Years Ago Today

Interesting that the anniversary of the Oklahoma City Bombing would arrive right at the same time as controversy mounts over Barack Obama’s close relationship with left-wing bomb setter William Ayers (Obama launched his 1995 state senate campaign from Ayers’ home).

Really, what are the practical differences between Timothy McVeigh and William Ayers?  Other than ideological beliefs and the fact that McVeigh was a lot more successful at it than Ayers ever was.

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Really, what are the practical differences between Timothy McVeigh and William Ayers?

There is no real difference.  William Ayers is a terrorist and should have gotten the same sentence that McVeigh did.  I am glad that ABC actually asked Obama some hard questions for once and showed this relationship between Obama and Ayers.



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dougee on April 19, 2008 at 08:50 pm

A conservative colleague was sitting next to me watching TV when the news broke about the bombing. The first words out of his mouth were: “I don’t know why they let those people (meaning Muslims) come over here.”
Later, when he learned the suspects were Americans, he was astounded. He said: “I can’t believe an American would do that.”

watashiwa on April 20, 2008 at 03:33 pm
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Really, what are the practical differences between Timothy McVeigh and William Ayers? 

Murder for one.  Aires murdered no-one.  McVeigh, a murdered a whole hellava lot.

Coburn on the other-hand has murdered at least twice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Radical history

According to his memoir, Ayers became radicalized at the University of Michigan where he became involved in the New Left and the SDS. Ayers joined the Weatherman group in 1969, but went underground with several associates after the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion in 1970, in which three members (Ted Gold, Terry Robbins, and Diana Oughton, who was Ayers’s girlfriend at the time) were killed while constructing a bomb. While underground, he and fellow member Bernardine Dohrn married and had two children, Zayd and Malik. They were purged from the group in the mid-1970s, and turned themselves in to the authorities in 1981. All charges against him were dropped because of prosecutorial misconduct during the long search for the fugitives. They later became legal guardians of Chesa Boudin, the son of former Weathermen David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin, after his parents were arrested for their part in the Brinks Robbery of 1981.[4]
In 2001, Ayers published Fugitive Days: A Memoir. Ayers’s interview with the New York Times about his book was published, by historical coincidence, on September 11, 2001,[5] and opens with his statement, “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough."[4] Ayers later explained that by “no regrets” he meant that he didn’t regret his efforts to oppose the Vietnam War, and that “we didn’t do enough” meant that efforts to stop the war were obviously inadequate as it dragged on for a decade; the two statements were not intended to elide into a wish they had set more bombs.[6] The interview also includes his reaction (in his book) to Emile De Antonio’s 1976 documentary film about the Weathermen: “He was ‘embarrassed by the arrogance, the solipsism, the absolute certainty that we and we alone knew the way. The rigidity and the narcissism."[4] New Politics reviewer Jesse Lemisch has contrasted Ayers’s recollections with those of other Weathermen and has alleged serious factual errors.[7] Ayers, in the foreward to his book, states it was written as his personal memories and impressions over time, not a scholarly research project.[4] His history occasionally surfaces, as when he was asked not to attend a progressive educators’ conference in the fall of 2006 on the basis that the organizers did not want to risk an association with his past[8].

Hannitized on April 20, 2008 at 03:43 pm

Hannitized:

All charges against him were dropped because of prosecutorial misconduct during the long search for the fugitives.

Sounds like “a technicality” to me.  On your no murder assertion by Ayres:

He’s said that he wished he and his group had set more bombs.

16 February 1970 – Bombing of Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen.

I searched, but could not find an indictment for your assertion:

Coburn on the other-hand has murdered at least twice

Please, if you have time, a reference to this accusation of murder by Senator Tom Coburn.

Coburn on the other-hand has murdered at least twice.

That would be murder in this one cited case by Rob earlier.

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Communism is evil

Chief RZ on April 20, 2008 at 05:15 pm
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