Could it be, he did/does not have the $$$$$ to buy a plumbing business?

Absolutely irrelevant to the pernicious economic policies of Obamunism. Why should he risk the money, if Obamunism will simply take it away from him?
You continue to lie and spin, while attempting to distract from your own lying bullshit.
You are the one crying here, not Two. You lie again.
Your whole attempt to compare the correct criticism of your lies and arrogance with the very real persecution of Joe the Plumber by the Obamunists was you crying your pathological liar crocodile tears. You lied, Joe told the truth. There is no comparison.
If you don’t like the criticism, stop lying.

2Hotel9. You asked this question: “I just did a sweep at HuPo, DU, DKos and all 3 DNC webpages and I can’t find a single post from e calling for her Party, the Democrat Party, to remove anyone committing crimes using their government offices. Not one, e. Why is that?”

I gave you a simple answer: “It is because SAB is the only blog I read and post comments.”

To which you reply: “And there it is, gang. It openly admits that it does not hold its Party, the Democrat Party, responsible for their crimes. Only Rob is to be held responsible for the crimes of the Democrat Party. And now we will commence with the heaping of derision upon you.”

Well dearest friend, I am not dissapointed at all.
I knew what you are all along. I just will not say it.

When a campaigning politician invades the privacy of a citizen on a campaign tour,

More lies from 108.

It incredible that somehow you see this Sam Joe whatever, having pushed his way to the front of the crowd in the middle of a public street filled with people and TV cameras
(not the front yard lie you dismally push) to ask Obama a question as “a campaigning politician invades the privacy of a citizen”. Joe is an attention whore. Witness everything he chose to do after his chance encounter with the now President Elect.

And you are still here crying instead of bending every effort into holding your Party, the Democrat Party, responsible for its members criminal actions. All you can do is come here and cry.

2Hotel9 on November 24, 2008 at 03:46 pm

And you are still crying on my shoulder instead of filing lawsuits to punish the wrongdoers of the Democratic party.
Are you that weak that you want others to do the heavy lifting for you?

And still here crying instead of holding the criminals in your Party responsible for their crimes in your name. Good job!

You are the one refusing to condemn your Party’s criminal activity. Suck on that, beatch.

A drunk can sober up, but stupid, arrogant pathological lying is forever.

It is your Party, why are you not fixing it? Simple. You like using government force to intimidate people. Otherwise you would be screeching at your Party about this. Instead, you continue to cry about how everybody is mean to you. Waawaawaawaa.

Isn’t it spelled, E Lie’n ASSS?

Not bad. 15 lines of written material, 13 times the word lie appears in various forms.
I will let the record speak about pathology and lies.

2Hotel9. I did no such thing. And it does not make it so, because you say so.

Oh please. You conflated you getting called stupid for being stupid with Joe having his taxes dragged out. You compared him asking a question with you putting your views out there. And you compared his tarring and feathering with the mild mockery you get.

You dishonest little troll.

Robert108. My answer to you: Shrug.

As a leftie attacker of long repute, e liar is just being the typical hypocrite it is. There is no point to it’s gibberish, other than a desperate, narcissistic need for attention.

No one invaded anyones privacy in the exchange between Obama and Joe.

Another lie from you. Obama approached Joe; Joe never invited him into his yard.

i prefer to refer to this whole episode as obambinogate.

Again, it is your Party. Why are you here playing the victim and not at their multiple webpages screeching for them to renounce and request prosecution of all involved? Why are you here crying instead of writing emails to the Editorial pages of every Democrat Party supporting newspaper that has online editions?

Screech&wail&gnash your teeth because people don’t like you, that will route all the criminals out of your Party. What a whiny moron.

One more once, e, it is your Party. Why are you here crying instead of telling your Party to quit committing crimes?

2Hotel9 on November 22, 2008 at 11:17 am
Do you think you have a winner question here?
As I said, if laws were broken, the guilty should be punished.
Why are you not raising Hell with the Republican Party about the criminal actions its members are involved in? Why are you here crying on my shoulder?
Take your complaints (real or imagined), along with your real or imagined evidence to the Attorney General.

You are the one refusing to hold your Party, the Democrat Party responsible for its members criminal activity. Have a nice evening.

spark? The Aryan Brotherhood want her killed, so you are once again full of shit.

Dear Heaven! This is a insane thread. It is really simple. Joe, {whatever he is or isn’t, whomever he owes or doesn’t, whether he can afford a business or not}, Whurlzebacher is just a regular guy. He can ask whatever he wants, he can lie and say he is a trillionaire about to buy a ‘ho farm. This chick that went into his records should be fired. She won’t be. That’s wrong. Joe, or Sam, or the Jolly Green frickin’ Giant have a right to privacy. He can write a book, sing a song or just plunge a toliet, he still deserves a right to privacy. Why wouldn’t you respect that is a more disturbing question.

Joe got attacked personally, you get disagreed with. He was not trying to debate publically, you are. No similarities at all.

e liar: You’re missing the point, as usual. You whine about people getting attacked on this blog, and it is you who have made some of the most vicious attacks. You are a liar and a whiner.

Its hard to imagine what – in the rest – you disagree with or why.

This is not about me.

You’re finally getting the point.

I a public citizen, when I question the motives qualifications and purity of the soul on one of your heroes, express my opinion or disagree with y’all why am I so viciously attacked? Why am I called a lier for expressing my opinion?

You may differentiate all you want. One thing is for certain: Should someone question the motives qualifications and purity of the soul on one of your heroes, said person is attacked and have have whatever imperfections exist in his/her personal life bandied about at the SAB threads/posts.

Shrug.

Wow, these two morons are just diggin’ that hole faster!

And now boob wants to pretend none of it ever happened. Priceless and classic.

And you are still crying, like a beatch, and refusing to hold your Party, the Democrat Party, responsible for the crimes its members commit in your name.

Kenny. You disagree with me on the interpretation of the events. That is fine with me.
Your short fuse is noted.

And I see you are still here crying.

2Hotel9 on November 24, 2008 at 07:48 pm

Must be your animal magnetism.
Good Night 2H9.

HA!

realitybasedbob. Whatever is robert108 smoking this morning, I want some. Have you noticed? When he exhales smoke comes out of his ass.

2Hotel9. I condemned them, you missed it. So clearly there is a comprehension problem caused by being a disciple of Dionisous.
For future reference, I don’t condemn anyone at your command or urging.

rbb moron: When a campaigning politician invades the privacy of a citizen on a campaign tour, that is the underlying question, whether spoken or not. As a known liar, Obama wasn’t even honest enough to ask him directly, but that was why he invaded Joe’s yard. He wanted to give the impression that average, middle class working Americans approved of his candidacy, and he got a rude awakening. Joe asked him a very relevant question, and Obama revealed his Marxist ideology. For that, Joe was persecuted by the Obamunists.
None of your lying and spinning will change that fact.

This is entirely too funny. I just did a sweep at HuPo, DU, DKos and all 3 DNC webpages and I can’t find a single post from e calling for her Party, the Democrat Party, to remove anyone committing crimes using their government offices. Not one, e. Why is that?

Instead, you are here, in several threads, crying about how people don’t like you and are mean to you.

It is your Party, you vote for it, you defend it, it is yours. And it used the offices of government to harass and intimidate a citizen.

Why are you not raising Hell with the Democrat Party about the criminal actions its members are involved in? Why are you here crying?

All of the above was done to discredit him.
You are doing the same thing.

Joe the Plumber told the truth, and was persecuted for it; you lie, and are constantly exposed for it.
Big difference.

You can stop lying any time, and no one will call you a liar; Joe the Plumber can never get his life back, due to his telling the truth.
Big difference.

For you to compare yourself to Joe the Plumber is not only totally wrong, but obscene.

Again, it is your Party.

2Hotel9 on November 22, 2008 at 10:08 am

I don’t own the Democratic party, and the Democratic party does not own me. Find another shoulder to cry on. The towel that I had on my shoulder for your tears is already soaked. I am not going to waste another one for you.

You lie again, in another attempt to justify your pathological lying. You’re not fooling anyone anymore.

And I see you are still here crying.

And still here crying instead of holding the criminals in your Party responsible for their crimes in your name. Good job!

2Hotel9 on November 25, 2008 at 08:39 am

Thank you for the compliment.

Just swept DU, HufPo, DKos and all 3 DNC webpages. Still not a single word from ecunt about how it is bad that Democrats are committing crimes in the name of her Party. Wonder why that is?

The truth explodes another leftie bullshitter head. Hooray!

You compared him asking a question with you putting your views out there. And you compared his tarring and feathering with the mild mockery you get.
You dishonest little troll.

Kenny on November 20, 2008 at 11:19 pm

When he asked a question, the media was there. So he did put his views out for scrutiny.

2Hotel9. I did no such thing. And it does not make it so, because you say so.

Obama’s cameramen were there.

Kenny on November 21, 2008 at 05:50 pm

So was the media, and a lot of looky looks.
The fact that I disagree with you, and/or have different opinion does not make me a liar.
I see you are getting angry. No reason to. It is just a debate. You present your point/view, I present mine.
Your lack of civility is noted.

Your lack of civility is well known in SAB.

Which in no way excuses or justifies your lying, ignorance, arrogance, threats of violence or lack of integrity/credibility.
More phony equivalence from you.

Familiar territory: The pathological liar keeps lying to try to cover its initial lie.

As I have told you before you are mistaking opinions, political beliefs and ideas different than yours, as lies.

I have correctly identified your lies as lies, and you still keep lying and denying. It is a sickness with you.

Not bad. 15 lines of written material, 13 times the word lie appears in various forms.
I will let the record speak about pathology and lies.

A very tiny fraction of the lies you have spewed on this blog. Your record of lies speaks very loudly about your pathology.

So you clearly admit you do not hold the elected members of your Party, the Democrat Party, to account for their crimes. Please say it a 3rd time! This shit is funny as hell.

2Hotel9 on November 23, 2008 at 03:55 pm

I am so glad that you are able to read what you want in my answers.
How much did you drink today?

shrug.

Dear Heaven! This is a insane thread.

di butler on November 22, 2008 at 03:39 pm

I agree with you. Check these statements as proof of insanity:

For you to blame Obama’s crimes against this man on McCain is new lying territory, even for you.

robert108 on November 22, 2008 at 09:27 am

Crimes? Wow! Those are strong, generic, and unbelievable accusations.
ellinas on November 22, 2008 at 09:36 am

More lies from you; the crimes have already been admitted. Try to keep up.

robert108 on November 22, 2008 at 09:37 am

Scroll down to Obama and his birth certificate. You can click on petition to congress there. Good reading also. It is free just to send email but I paid $9.00 to make sure it was delivered by email and by letter to my congressmen.

Check out: http://www.TruthOrFiction.com dated 11/17/08

I have to agree with you on this one. Must have been very rude to wake up as president elect of the USA.

Another lie from you; I’m sure Obama, after posing as the savior of the middle class, didn’t expect a middle class working guy to question his class envy tax bullshit. This is why the Obamunists persecuted Joe the Plumber; for his ideas.
He wants to be upwardly mobile, in Obama’s commie world of equal outcomes.

The fact that I disagree with you, and/or have different opinion does not make me a liar.

No the fact that you lie repeatedly makes you a liar.

I see you are getting angry. No reason to. It is just a debate. You present your point/view, I present mine.
Your lack of civility is noted.

You don’t have a point of view. You just keep pretending that your and his cases are equivalent. They’re not. I’ve lost patience with your stupidity.

Which crimes did Obama admit to commiting in this case?

Now you’re changing the argument; crimes were committed against Joe the Plumber by the Obama campaign, which Obama runs from above. I don’t expect liar Obama to admit anything, in the same way that neither liar Clinton or liar e ever admit anything. That doesn’t make any of them any less guilty, just unrepentant.

2Hotel9. I am not the Democratic Party. Take your complaints (real or imagined), along with your real or imagined evidence to the Attorney General.

Lying, denying cut and run.
You came on this thread with your lying false equivalence, and now, after being thoroughly refuted and discredited for your lying bullshit, you try to squeal like a victim.
Shame on you!

You are missing the point.

Wrong again! You are simply unable to admit when you are wrong, and try to lie your way out of it. You try to blame others for your own bad behavior. You’re also distracting.

ellinas said, Just like here on SAB. Should someone question the motives qualifications and purity of the soul on one of your heroes, said person is attacked and have have whatever imperfections exist in his/her personal life bandied about at the SAB threads/posts.

He’s got a good point here, guys. This happens far too often at this website. I’ll admit that I’ve been guilty of it from time to time. Most here don’t play the game, some engage in it from time to time, and others use it almost exclusively. The side of the aisle doesn’t seem to matter.

That’s not to say that some things about personal lives aren’t relevant to the discussion at hand (a particular union thug comes to mind).

Neither I, nor realitybasedbob have ever suggested and/or said, whoever did the illegal record snooping/searching/revealing should go unpunished.

You lied and denied everything about what happened to Joe the Plumber due to his persecution by the Obamunists. You tried to blame him for the crimes committed against him, even trying to deny that any crimes were committed against him. You even tried to distract by trying to shift the discussion to how he was going to pay for his plans for the future. You lied and denied, and no one has bought your bullshit. Now, you try to wriggle out of the responsibiity for the lies you told.
You’re fooling no one. We all know what you are.

Kenny. Nothing could be further from the truth.
A person here,who calls himself 2Hotel9, who should forever live in infamy, went as far as to describe the mating practices of my parents.

OK. So one person. One time.

You make it sound like a constant phenomenon.

Stop acting like a victim. The majority of “attacks” on you are for your ideas. And you know it.

If you had an atom of honesty or integrity, you would admit your many lies and beg for forgiveness from those to whom and about whom you have lied. You lack even that.

E. No but you sure have indicated it was not illegal a few times.
“No one invaded anyones privacy in the exchange between Obama and Joe. Stop making things up”. in your own words you deny a crime was committed and the Attorney General has said that 8 out of 18 of the searchers were illegal , do you read or listen to the news .???

welder4 on November 23, 2008 at 04:44 am

welder4. If you read carefully, you will see that I was referring to the conversation between Obama and Joe.

He asked question, and didn’t deserve to have whatever imperfections exist in his personal life bandied about as national headlines.

By Rob on November 20, 2008 at 01:13 pm

Just like here on SAB. Should someone question the motives qualifications and purity of the soul on one of your heroes, said person is attacked and have have whatever imperfections exist in his/her personal life bandied about at the SAB threads/posts.

You keep lying, denying and spinning; we all know what you are. Repent, and you might yet salvage a shred of humanity for yourself.

e liar: Unlike Joe the Plumber, you are being described in terms of what you do and what you are. You haven’t had your privacy violated, no govt officials have illegally revealed information about your private life, and your lying presence here is entirely voluntary. If you stop lying and spewing your ignorance, no one will come after you or accurately describe you as an arrogant, ignorant liar. No politician approached you and asked you a question, then subjected you to a media exam when you didn’t give him an answer that fit his ideology.
You continue to be a liar and a fraud.
Repent and atone for your sins, and you can yet be saved.

robert108 on November 22, 2008 at 08:48 am

All of the above was done to discredit him.
You are doing the same thing.

Have a blessed night. I will pray so that you wake up a decent person.

For you to blame Obama’s crimes against this man on McCain is new lying territory, even for you.

robert108 on November 22, 2008 at 09:27 am

Crimes? Wow! Those are strong, generic, and unbelievable accusations.

As I have told you before you are mistaking opinions, political beliefs and ideas different than yours, as lies.

You lie again; I have faced you up with your lies countless times, and you just keep lying and denying. When you threatened me with both physical and sexual assault, you denied it, and when I reprinted those threats, instead of apologizing for both the threats and the denial of them, you continued to lie. That is beneath contempt, and marked you as a pathological liar. That you continue to deny it and lie about it is just typical behavior from you.
Whenever you attempt to speak about economics, you use declarative statements that are totally wrong, and when corrected, you lie and deny. Finally, you lie about having said what you said. It is your pattern of pathological lying. If you want things to be different, stop lying.
If you’re guessing, admit you’re guessing; if you are just repeating something you heard without doing any research, admit your error and thank the ones who shared their knowledge with you. Instead, you continue to spew arrogant nonsense, and when corrected, you lie about it and try to defend your lies and errors.
When you stop doing that, the criticism will stop, but not before. You get the consequences of your actions.

Ohio Inspector General Rules That Snooping On Joe The Plumber Was Done Illegally

By Rob on November 20, 2008 at 01:13 pm

Was ever any doubt on anyone’s mind that this was done illegally? Not in my mind.

OK. So one person. One time.

You make it sound like a constant phenomenon.

Stop acting like a victim. The majority of “attacks” on you are for your ideas. And you know it.

Kenny on November 20, 2008 at 07:15 pm

You are right about the one person.
You are wrong as to how many times.
Anyway. This is not about me. It is about civility and respect, which are sorely lacking in “Joe the Plumbers” case, and are missing from some of us here on SAB.

And you are still here crying instead of bending every effort into holding your Party, the Democrat Party, responsible for its members criminal actions. All you can do is come here and cry.

I a public citizen, when I question the motives qualifications and purity of the soul on one of your heroes, express my opinion or disagree with y’all why am I so viciously attacked? Why am I called a lier for expressing my opinion?

Where are those mea culpas you owe me Ellinas?

I am having a hard time understanding what ellinas is bitching about here. If it’s about ellinas, or Joe. I can’t figure it out.
If Helen Jones-Kelley broke a law, I see prosecution as a feature in her life, in the near future. Very simple.

My apology, Ellinas, but I’m having trouble finding a vicious attack against you on this thread.

pparets on November 20, 2008 at 03:00 pm

pparets. You know what I mean. The idea is the same.
Lucky for me Robert108 or 2hotel9 are not around.

No need for apology.

Its your Party, you vote for it, you defend it, you fix it. And stop crying that everyone is mean to you, it just makes us laugh harder.

108, Thank you for acknowledging that you were wrong.

You lie, as usual; I acknowledged that you are wrong, habitually.

gman
nice Aryan nation avatar.

read the quotation from that neinous beeyatch on the avatar, kitty.

her and laura ingraham are the real ‘House Negroes’.