Obama’s Plans To Shink The Deficit Won’t Even Get It To Under $1 Trillion

Over the weekend I posted about Obama’s plan to shrink the nation’s budget deficits (odd coming after signing the largest single spending bill in history into law) by jacking up taxes on those who already pay the most in taxes and ending the war in Iraq.
I pointed out that what we’ve spent on Iraq in almost six years is less than what he just spent on the stimulus alone, and that we’re probably already well beyond a point of diminishing returns from taxing “the rich.” But now Phil Klein posts at The American Spectator that Obama’s plans to shrink the deficit probably won’t even get it under $1 trillion.

The Obama administration expects to reduce the deficit by allowing Bush tax cuts to expire on wealthier Americans and saving money in Iraq and Afghanistan. But according to a Tax Policy Center analysis (a group whose work was frequently cited by the Obama campaign during the election), Obama would only be generating $68 billion in additional revenue by 2013 compared to maintaing all of the Bush tax cuts. Also, in FY 2008, the entire cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was $188 billion. In other words, even if we reduce our presence in both countries to zero and roll back the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy, it doesn’t get the deficit to under $1 trillion under the most charitable of assumptions.

During the campaign Obama claimed to be a practitioner of pay-as-you-go budgeting, and promised to align any spending increases brought about by an economic rescue bill with spending cuts so that he didn’t ramp up the federal deficit. As I’ve already pointed out, Obama’s “stimulus” bill cost America more than almost six years of the war in Iraq, and that doesn’t include the health care entitlement he’s already signed into law and the aggressive domestic budget (including increased spending on entitlements) he’s planning on.
How is Obama going to strip six years worth of Iraq war spending, plus more to match his non-”stimulus” spending, from one year’s budget?
I think he could do it, but given that Obama is a tax-and-spend liberal and I don’t think he will do it.

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  • http://Array HG

    Idiot – n. Dino

    example #2: Profit is theft.

  • robert108

    Bat, Proof: Little dinostems bullshit about profit are right out of Marx’s “labor theory of value”, and are complete nonsense.

  • pparets

    dino lives in a dream-world….

    Candidate Name Percentage of Popular Votes Number of Popular Votes for
    Obama 53% 67,066,915

    McCain 46% 58,421,377

    … about the same margin as most presidential elections.

    Is everyone in Portland as dumb as you are?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Sure it is. The whole basis of capitalism is profit, getting money for nothing. Goldbricking is just an employee getting paid for doing nothing more than showing up. The “premium” or profit is kicking back.

    I’m simply an entrepreneur.

    I figured you cons would appreciate that.

  • Mickey

    Do not feed the troll and it will die.

    think about it

  • Bat One

    Dino,

    Your premise is horsehit. Your conclusions are horseshit. Your questions have already been answered, and the bottom line is that I don’t owe you anything. The last time you backed anyone into a corner, it was probably an 8 year old boy who got lost in a toy store.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    complete nonsense.

    Dino’s an attention whore. His spouting nonsense (with the occasional bigoted remark thrown in for good measure) is merely his attempt to get people to pay attention to his otherwise boring and meaningless life.

    We really ought not to feed the troll!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Profit is theft.

  • Bat One

    The whole basis of capitalism is profit, getting money for nothing.

    Profit is theft.

    Swish,

    Whether you actually believe this socialist horseshit or not, you are a weapons grade, pluperfect moron for saying it.

    I want nothing more to do with your sorry, ignorant ass, so please, go pester someone else with your vile nonsense You’re not worth my time or trouble!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Of course you can’t explain why just like you nor any of the other stems can explain why the private investment houses bought all that toxic debt supposedly forced on lenders by liberals.

    Robbie’s nutjob posts don’t count.

  • docdave

    You stupid f**k, dino. Under Obama everybody will be toast INCLUDING YOU!!

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    My.

    Sounds like someone who makes their living off of other folks (i.e. paid with taxes).

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Once again the arsonists criticize the fire department.

    Getting old.

  • Bat One

    Whether he’s an attention whore, a devout Marxist, or just another over-the-hill florist sashaying after hearses instead of ambulances, I’m done with his sorry ass.

  • Mickey

    11 Most Expensive Catastrophes in History (Amounts in 2009 Dollars)

    11. Titanic Sinks – $150 Million
    10. Tanker Truck w/Fuel vs. Bridge in Germany – $358 Million
    9. Metrolink Train Crash in CA- $500 Million (Est. total including lawsuits)
    8. B-2 Bomber Crash- Guam – $1.4Billion
    7. Exxon Valdez Oil Spill – $2.5 Billion
    6. Piper Alpha Oil Rig Fire- $3.4 Billion
    5. Challenger Shuttle Explosion – $5.5 Billion
    4. Prestige Oil Tanker Sinking and Oil spill – $12 Billion
    3. Columbia Shuttle Explosion – $13 Billion
    2. Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant Accident – $200 Billion
    1. 2008 Presidential Election – $800 Billion in One Month and Counting

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    The troll’s ideas will live on in the millions of people who HATE republicans for what they’ve done to the country.

    You people are TOAST.

  • robert108

    Mickey: One correction; Obama sucked up the second half of Bush’s “bailout”, so add $350 billion to his spending. He’s well over a trillion wasted, with no end in sight, despite his comical pledge to “reduce the deficit”. That’s just nonsense.

  • robert108

    The whole basis of capitalism is profit, getting money for nothing.

    This ignorance explains a lot about dumb little dinostem. He has no idea what profit actually is, and so is not qualified to speak about anything economic at all.
    Profit is getting money for creating value efficiently.
    Dumb, dumb, dumb little dinostem.
    Profit is economic growth; without profit, there is no economic growth, and no prosperity.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    I’m simply an entrepreneur.

    Profit is theft.

    Ergo, Dino is a thief! That certain could explain the odd hours he keeps and his amoral positions on everything else!

    The whole basis of capitalism is profit, getting money for nothing.

    Dino is completely clueless to the idea of “adding value” to anything. Perhaps, because he has no value himself?

  • JK

    At least he’s doing something – one small step and all …
    Tracey

    One GIANT step as he digs us deeper into the hole.

  • robert108

    Profit is theft.

    Straight out of Marxist dogma. It’s one of the reasons why Marxism is always a dismal failure. Dumb little dinostem is just parroting Karl Marx; he has no ideas of his own.

  • HG

    You deserve a refund on your college education for that remark, assuming you had one.

    What dino deserves society is too polite to give. Although I doubt anything could correct such a fool.

  • robert108

    “…inherent value…”

    No such thing; things are worth what people are willing to pay for them, dummy!
    Without applying capital to labor and raw materials at a profit, the only economy is a subsistence economy, moron.
    You have obviously swallowed Marxist mythology without questioning it, which is the sign of lack of higher brain function.

  • carrick

    Dino:

    The troll’s ideas will live on in the millions of people who HATE republicans for what they’ve done to the country.

    You conflate your own mental illness with the apathy felt by most Americans towards both parties.

    Conservatives are as unhappy with how the Republicans represent them as ultraliberals are with Obama and his “Bush-lite” national security measures.

  • carrick

    Dino:

    Charging a premium for something over and above its inherent value is theft

    You deserve a refund on your college education for that remark, assuming you had one.

    That’s one of the most palpably stupid and ignorant comments I’ve seen in my entire life.

    Wow.

  • welder4

    Very well said Mickey:

  • robert108

    You still can’t explain why the educated financial wizards at the now-dead investment houses bought toxic debt supposedly forced on the lenders by liberal social policies.

    Moron little dinostem: The debt wasn’t “toxic” until the inflationary bubble caused by the Dem social engineering affirmative home loan mandates burst. You have been schooled on this countless times, dummy! Get a brain.
    Also, the govt, through Fannie and Freddie, bought that paper at a profit.

  • traceye

    At least he’s doing something – one small step and all …

    Tracey

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Just getting a better deal from the system by fucking them out of time.

    That’s the republican way, no?

  • http://vdvfamily.com/ Sphagnum

    Profit is theft.

    If there was ever better proof of DINO’s immorality, I’ve never seen it.

  • http://www.recessioninfocenter.com/ jeff

    I understand that there are doubts about the stimulus package will help. But with this stimulus the federal deficit is likely to go even higher….

    Anyways, I just came across another two helpful articles on 2008 taxes.

    http://www.recessioninfocenter.com/2008_tax_tips_for_recession.html

    http://recessioninfocenter.com/Taxes_in_recession.html

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Charging a premium for something over and above its inherent value is theft. That’s why we still have controls on those who control life essentials like water and power. At least we do in the civilized parts of this cesspool country.

    BatShitCrazy, you are done with me because I have you backed into a corner over the toxic debt question. You still can’t explain why the educated financial wizards at the now-dead investment houses bought toxic debt supposedly forced on the lenders by liberal social policies.

  • sayanything-2483

    Dino: Do you always blog on your boss’s time, or have you lost your job?

  • sayanything-2483

    Profit is theft.
    DINO on February 23, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Tell that to your boss who pays you.
    You’ve gotten way too stupid today for me to respond to you any more.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    The whole basis of capitalism is profit, getting money for nothing.

  • sayanything-2483

    Uh…NO, but obviously it’s yours.

  • sayanything-2483

    I’m simply an r.entrepreneur
    DINO on February 23, 2009 at 10:08 am

    You don’t have the savy to be an entrepreneur. But you are very entertaining, for a grunt.

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