Obama’s Lies About Meetings With Blagojevich Just Got A Little More Difficult To Believe

Obama continues to maintain that he’s confident that his staff wasn’t deal-making with Blagojevich over his vacated Senate seat. But today the Chicago Tribune confirms the existence of what was reported here yesterday: Recordings of Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s Chief of Staff, talking with Blago’s people about the appointment.

Rahm Emanuel, President-elect Barack Obama’s pick to be White House chief of staff, had conversations with Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s administration about who would replace Obama in the U.S. Senate, the Tribune has learned.
The revelation does not suggest Obama’s new gatekeeper was involved in any talk of dealmaking involving the seat. But it does help fill in the gaps surrounding a question that Obama was unable or unwilling to answer this week: Did anyone on his staff have contact with Blagojevich about his choice for the Senate seat? …
One source confirmed that communications between Emanuel and the Blagojevich administration were captured on court-approved wiretaps.
Another source said that contact between the Obama camp and the governor’s administration regarding the Senate seat began the Saturday before the Nov. 4 election, when Emanuel made a call to the cell phone of Harris. The conversation took place around the same time press reports surfaced about Emanuel being approached about taking the high-level White House post should Obama win.
Emanuel delivered a list of candidates who would be “acceptable” to Obama, the source said. On the list were Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, Illinois Veterans Affairs director Tammy Duckworth, state Comptroller Dan Hynes and U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Chicago, the source said. All are Democrats.
Sometime after the election, Emanuel called Harris back to add the name of Democratic Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan to the approved list, the source said.

What I don’t understand is why Obama wasn’t forthcoming about this stuff from the get-go. Obama claims that he himself didn’t meet with Blago about the appointment, but news reports suggest otherwise. And then it took days for news to surface that Obama’s chief of staff was communicating with Blago about people Obama would like to see appointed, and even then that news had to be disclosed by federal sources and not Obama himself.
Now, unless we’re to believe that Emanuel came up with the list of suggested appointments for Blago with no input from his boss, it’s unfathomable that Obama didn’t know full well that these conversations between Rhambo and Blago were taking place. And if Obama knew they were taking place, why didn’t he just come out and say it?
Why all the secrecy?
Even if Obama and his people aren’t guilty of any deal-making they don’t get away from this clean. Blago was an Obama ally. Obama helped put Blago in office, twice, working directly for his campaigns. Obama has been less than truthful about both his and his staff’s communications with Blago about this appointment.
None of this is any way to start off an administration that is allegedly about hope ‘n change.

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  • http://Array ellinas

    Asked and answered: Leadership. I guess your latest tactic is to play dumb; that won’t work, either. It’s the job of a leader to lead, and to take action to solve problems. He needs to clean up the Dem corruption, by whatever means necessary. After all, he is posing as President, so he should at least sound Presidential.

    robert108 on December 13, 2008 at 06:43 pm

    No. My latest tactic is not to play dumb. I am trying to be non confrontational.
    Once again, your answer is a non answer. What real or imagined, regular and or special powers does he have, to go after corrupt politicians in home state?
    Enumerate for us all here at SAB what means he has available to him clean up his home state of corruption at this point.
    Your original question, and subsequent answers are high on rhetoric and low on substance.

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  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Were his promises to give us a recession, raise our taxes and expanded the size of our government?

    Because if they were, boy oh boy was he ever true to those.

  • ellinas

    What a disappointment! We should have elected someone who know something, not this inexperienced fool!

    robert108 on December 13, 2008 at 09:42 pm

    Since you voted for Sarah, your phrase “We should have elected” is meaningless. You did not participate in the election of MR Barak Husein Obama. As I have been saying all along, your original question, subsequent answers, new questions and various pronouncements are high on rhetoric and low on substance.

    Once again, you have avoided my question. What real or imagined, regular and or special powers does he have, to go after corrupt politicians in home state?
    Enumerate for us all here at SAB what means he has available to him clean up his home state of corruption at this point.

  • robert108

    So, you don’t know what the promises were. Typical.

    I know; I just want you to know, so you might stop lying about it. You keep making excuses, instead of doing the research.
    Can’t handle it?

  • ellinas

    Of course I didn’t vote for a commie!

    robert108 on December 14, 2008 at 09:35 am

    So your statement, “We should have elected someone who know something, not this inexperienced fool!” is meaningless. Since you did not vote for Barak, I wonder why you say “we”. Why are you including your self in to the people that voted for him when you clearly state you did not vote for him?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    108! Again with the lies?

    I admit I was wrong to expect you to want to know the truth.

    Allow me to repeat my honest question:

    What were Reagan’s three promises?

    If you don’t know what they were, just say so.

  • robert108

    If you really wanted me to know, you would tell me.

    As a narcissist, you are under the delusion that I care about you in any way. I don’t. Stew in your own ignorance, then.

  • robert108

    If you don’t know what they were, just say so.

    I know what they were, but you don’t. You admit your ignorance on this subject, which is undoubtedly why you have no counter argument. You simply try to distract with your adolescent baiting tactics, as usual.

  • ellinas

    Enumerate for us all here at SAB what means he has available to him clean up his home state of corruption at this point. Leadership alone cannot clean anything.
    That is a generic term you use, in the absense of specific actions needed.

  • Man Train

    the facts have been presented, and as yet you have not disproven (sic) my statement.

    Pardon? You mean assertions.

  • robert108

    “The Projectionist” pseudonym becomes you.

    Pseudonym means “false name”, and that’s exactly what it is, in this case. Keep distracting from the original truths about Obama’s lies and lack of leadership. It just proves your desperation. Especially the namecalling.

  • robert108

    You lie again; I wrote that I wanted you to find out for yourself. I made a statement to rebut e liar’s ridiculous excuse for Obama’s lies, and you have no counter argument to that statement. Lacking one, you want me to do even more work; you try to refute what I said, and then I’ll smack you with the truth. Until then, keep sucking wind.

  • robert108

    I can only assume that you don’t know either.

    Your ignorant assumptions are your problem; the facts have been presented, and as yet you have not disproven my statement. You have admitted your ignorance. You have nothing, but continue to try to distract with impotent personal attack. I realize this is all you have.

    I voted for Sarah.

  • robert108

    Leadership alone cannot clean anything.

    Again, you demonstrate your ignorance; leadership is the only way things get done. I’m not surprised you don’t know that.
    Fitz is leading the investigation. He’s taking action to eliminate the corruption through legal means. Obama could use his political clout, but he isn’t; he’s not a leader.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    I know; I just want you to know, so you might stop lying about it.

    If you really wanted me to know, you would tell me.

    What were Reagan’s three promises?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I real leader would have disclosed everything, and then would have cleaned house immediately.

    Why would he have had to clean house even. It’s entirely appropriate for the Obama team to meet with the governor.

    So why the cover-up?

  • robert108

    BTW, I didn’t say anything about any “raygun”; is that one of your adolescent fantasies? I was talking about President Ronald Reagan. Sorry you missed that.

  • robert108

    e the simple minded: Google lies when it comes to reportage of politically sensitive statistics. They over report Republican corruption, and under report Dem corruption, but even then, the figures are woefully lopsided on the side of Dem corruption. Reagan’s promises are a matter of history, and google can report that as well as anyone else, at least up to this point. Your ignorance is astounding.

  • robert108

    So 108, you trust Google (the lying search engine) for some things but not other things.

    Another lie from you. I have independent knowledge of Reagan’s campaign promises, and don’t require Google, but I recommended it to you, since you are ignorant of history. Again, you keep trying to create distraction away from the subject, which is Obama’s lack of leadership in this scandal.
    You keep lying and distracting, I keep smacking you with the truth. Obama is not a leader; he’s a liar and a weakling.

  • robert108

    rbb: I can understand your desperate efforts to change the subject away from your Messiah’s lies and lack of leadership.
    I realize you can’t deal with this inconvenient truth, just like you are unable to deal with the avalanche of corruption in the Dem Party. That’s your problem, and trying feeble personal attacks on me won’t solve it for you. It only deepens your psychosis.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    No, no that’s just not the case, 108.

    You claimed, and let me quote you here because you are a nit picking cherry picker:

    Ronald Reagan made three campaign promises, all of which he kept.

    Your statement clearly indicates your belief that RR made 3 campaign promises.

    You did not write “among his many promises, RR kept 3″.

    You wrote:

    Ronald Reagan made three campaign promises, all of which he kept.

    You are a cherry/nit picking liar.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Ok, Ok here ya go 108

    Ronnie Raygun promised during his first campaign to abolish the Department of Education.

    He did not.

    Therefore Raygun was a liar.

    Therefore you are a liar for claiming “Ronald Reagan made three campaign promises, all of which he kept. “

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    So 108, you trust Google (the lying search engine) for some things but not other things. That seems kind of odd. But then again, you are a queer little man.

    But your ignorance is not nearly as astounding as your inexplicable reluctance to type and post what you’ve claimed were Reagan’s 3 campaign promises.

    Why is that, 108?

    What are you hiding?

    Were the the Reagan accomplishments I listed, the 3 promises you referenced?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    “The Projectionist” pseudonym becomes you.

  • robert108

    e liar: The other side to your feeble attempts at distraction from Obama’s lack of leadership in this corruption scandal is that in claiming that all politicians make promises they don’t keep, you forget the fact that Obama had only his promises, since he had no record of accomplishments. His razor thin resume contained only commie community agitation, which is not a qualification for President, or even dog catcher, so he created this persona of an all-powerful promiser of all things to all people, and was elected on that basis, since he had nothing else. In light of that, all we have are his promises, so when he violates them, he has nothing upon which to fall back, save his community agitating. He has revealed himself, by his conduct in this scandal involving his buddies, as an empty suit.

  • ellinas

    Mr realitybasedbob. The man is a pretender. He cannot answer a simple question. He has lied repeatedly in this thread. He has no honor to speak off. If he did he would answer, not lead us to a wild goose chase.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    108, when you wrote:

    I know; I just want you to know, so you might stop lying about it.

    Were you lying again?

    Do you really want me to know? Why not just tell me what you want me to know?

  • robert108

    Now 108 is a lying flip flopper who can’t tell us what Reagan’s 3 campaign promises were.

    Still no counter argument, I see.

  • robert108

    Still no answer to a simple question: what were Ronnie’s 3 campaign promises.

    I guess you were unable to find out what many people, including me, already know, and have known for quite some time. If you want to make any sort of argument, you will have to educate yourself. It’s not my job to educate you. If you have no counter argument, just admit it. Stop trying to shift your ignorance on to someone else. It’s your fault.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Still no answer to a simple question: what were Ronnie’s 3 campaign promises.

    If you don’t know just say so.

  • robert108

    I can’t make a counter argument until I know what you consider Reagan’s 3 campaign promises to be.

    Bullshit! I have made a simple declarative statement. You could claim that he made a different number of promises, or that he didn’t keep any or all of them, but you have failed to do that, because you are ignorant of the facts.

    I have named a few that (he) certainly delivered

    All you did was to repeat your own lies.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Brother Bullwinckle, are you ok?

    – Ellinas, lying piece of shit Marxist and illiterate asshole

    I’m not your brother you little lying bitch. Quit acting like you have any concern about me, everyone knows you don’t.

    There is no ‘c’ in Bullwinkle you turd. That’s because you have taken them all with your other name, you stupid, illiterate CUNT.

    Now go fuck yourself, liar.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Your train runs in a circle.

    108:

    Ronald Reagan made three campaign promises, all of which he
    kept.

    rbb:

    What were Reagan’s three promises?

    It’s really quite a simple question.
    You can’t answer it.

    When challenged, you never answer the questions.

    Typical.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    I can’t make a counter argument until I know what you consider Reagan’s 3 campaign promises to be.

    I have named a few that certainly delivered and could have been promises, but without knowing what you believe his promises were, we are at a standstill.

    108, you invariably resort to this game when challenged.

    Why is that?

  • robert108

    108, if you told us what the promises were, maybe there wouldn’t be any argument to make.

    e liar made a statement that all politicians break their campaign promises, a patently false statment, and I gave one example that refuted his blanket generalization in excuse of Obama’s lack of leadership in the Blago corruption case. You have yet to refute my statement, even after I told you how you might do so. You have no counter argument, and you are squealing loudly to cover for that deficiency on your part.

  • robert108

    If you don’t know what they are, please, please say so and let’s end your little game.

    Make a counter argument, or stop playing your silly little game. You have already admitted your ignorance on this subject.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    I am not disputing your claim of 3 promises.
    If you say RR made 3 campaign promises, I believe you.

    Ronald Reagan made 3 campaign promises.

    Although your insistence that I argue he made more is telling.

    If you don’t tell us what RR’s 3 campaign promises were, there is nothing to refute.

    What were they?

  • ellinas

    “but we elected the wrong man”

    robert108 on December 14, 2008 at 10:11 am

    Your continuing use of the words “we elected” is very dissingenious, as you have, numerous times stated that, you did not vote for him. “We” does not include you.
    Puzzling position to take. I wonder why?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    108, if you told us what the promises were, maybe there wouldn’t be any argument to make.

    What were the 3 campaign promises RR made?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    I have named a few that (he) certainly delivered

  • robert108

    You wrote:

    Ronald Reagan made three campaign promises, all of which he
    kept.

    And you have yet to come up with a counter argument. Lots of squealing, though.

    Here’s how debate works, sonny: One side makes an argument, the other side makes a counter argument, and then they both work to prove their positions. You haven’t taken the first step, so I don’t have to do anything. I know if you had a counter argument, you would have made it immediately, but since you have consistently failed to do so, your admission of ignorance is obviously determinative.

  • robert108

    Although your insistence that I argue he made more is telling.

    A suggestion, not “insistence”; you lie again.

    If you don’t tell us what RR’s 3 campaign promises were, there is nothing to refute.

    Wrong. Again, my statement about Reagan keeping his three campaign promises was a refutation of e liar’s false statment that all politicians break their promises. One counter example is all that’s necessary to refute e’s lie.

    If you were able to refute my point there, you would have to prove that Reagan didn’t keep all his promises, no matter what they were. Even one kept promise refutes e liar.
    In order to do that, you have to know what the promises are, and you don’t; therefore, you have no argument, a fact you have proved over and over and over again in your time-wasting narcissism on this thread.
    You don’t know what you’re talking about, and are even unable to follow a logical train of thought.

  • ellinas

    Only to a moron; “we”, as I have already told you, refers to the American voting populace. Do you deny that Obama was elected by the American voters?

    robert108 on December 14, 2008 at 11:09 am

    So it is “we” minus robert108! thank you for admitting the truth.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    You wrote that you wanted me to know and yet you refuse to tell me.

    I can only assume that you don’t know either.

    And you have yet to answer my question about writing in Sarah’s name for president.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Yes, I could have argued that “he made a different number of promises”, but I didn’t. That would be a stupid argument. One that you might have made.

    You were very specific in claiming 3 promises.

    I was very specific in asking you what were the 3 promises.

    What is so hard about that?

    You wrote:

    Ronald Reagan made three campaign promises, all of which he kept.

    108, what were the 3 campaign promises made by Ronald Wilson Reagan?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    108, we are still waiting for you to post the fact about Reagan’s 3 campaign promises.

    If you don’t know what they are, please, please say so and let’s end your little game.

  • robert108

    Again, rbb, you would have to prove that he didn’t keep even one campaign promise to discount my rebuttal of e liar’s original “everybody does it” bullshit.
    You have labored mightily to avoid making an argument, and continue to fail in that effort.

  • robert108

    Why would he have had to clean house even. It’s entirely appropriate for the Obama team to meet with the governor.

    I mean that he should have cleaned out the corrupt ones right away, but expelling them from the Party, like they did to Joe Lieberman for having one diverse policy stance.

  • robert108

    Still no argument from the leftie squealers, just feeble attempts at distraction from Obama’s lies.

    Shame on you!

  • http://www.bismarckmandanblog.com/ clintf

    Give him a break, Rob, this is how they do things in Kenya.

  • ellinas

    Rob. How about you holding Obama responsible for things he’s actually done?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Yes, thank you E.

    Now 108 is a lying flip flopper who can’t tell us what Reagan’s 3 campaign promises were.

    Good catch.

  • sc

    Obama wouldn’t be much of a leader, if he didn’t suggest or give names to the governor of who he would like to fill his senate seat. After all, it is the senate seat that he was elected to. For him to deny any communications with governor just doesn’t pass the smell test.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Well, if it wasn’t this it would be a library book Obama didn’t return in the 8th grade.

    You people are following the “clinton model” of discrediting a President when you lose. Keep throwing up roadblocks of scandal to trip up the winner.

    It won’t work this time.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    It’s not even a conspiracy theory. it’s just typical conservative guilt by association tactics that they use to hogtie the winner of elections they lose.

    I guess we should be grateful they don’t still just assassinate their opponents like they used to.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Did Ronnie make a campaign promise to put us back on the gold standard…yes he did…oh yes he did…

    But he didnt keep that promise, did he.

    Raygun broke his campaign promise.

    Raygun was a liar.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Rob. How about you holding Obama responsible for things he’s actually done?

    – Ellinas, lying marxist piece of shit and ILLITERATE asshole

    Hey moron, if you weren’t a lying piece of shit you’d admit that Rob is holding Obama responsible for things he’s actually done.

    Obama has been less than truthful about both his and his staff’s communications with Blago about this appointment.

    Rob holds Obama responsible for lying, you asshole. You would too if you weren’t a pathological LYING PIECE OF SHIT MARXIST yourself. Obama lied to you too, moron.

  • http://www.kenmccracken.blogspot.com/ Ken McCracken

    The news story says:

    One source confirmed that communications between Emanuel and the Blagojevich administration were captured on court-approved wiretaps.

    Yeah, I guess the Chicago Tribune must be using “typical conservative guilt by association tactics that they use to hogtie the winner of elections they lose.”

    What a strange, twisted world liberals live in.

  • ellinas

    Brother Bullwinckle, are you ok?

  • robert108

    Good one, Rob! You have the leftie liars squealing loudly!

    It’s obvious there has been communication between Obama and Blago; although that doesn’t make it dishonest or unethical in any way. The real question is: Why is he denying it if there’s nothing wrong? I see this as a failure of leadership on Obama’s part. He can’t even keep his own local Party ethical, so how can he even hope to run the entire country?
    I real leader would have disclosed everything, and then would have cleaned house immediately. If he can’t even handle this, how can he handle foreign policy and terrorism? Will he just run and hide, like he did here?

  • Man Train

    Obama’s Lies About Meetings With Blagojevich Just Got A Little More Difficult To Believe

    Conspiracy theory.

  • robert108

    Where’s Obama’s leadership? If he can’t even clean up the corruption in his home State, how will he stand up to the terrorists who want to destroy us? How will he stand up to Putin? Where’s the leadership?

  • robert108

    Give him a break, Rob, this is how they do things in Kenya.

    Yes, it’s all about tribal loyalty.

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  • robert108

    I’m sorry you don’t understand the meaning of “leadership”; IMO, Obama doesn’t understand it either, which is why he’s trying to cover his ass instead of taking action as head of the Dem Party.

  • robert108

    He is looking for it. Give him a chance to find it. He masqueraded as a leader to win the election for President; now, he’s “looking for it”? Bullshit and lies.
    Please explain how is he suppose to clean up his home state of corruption at this point. Asked and answered: He’s the head of the Dem Party, and ran on his “experience” as both a State Senator and a US Senator from Illinois. You really don’t know that?

  • Mickey

    How much for Joe Biden’s senate seat?

  • robert108

    Try googling it; you might learn something.

    I voted for Sarah; asked and answered countless times, pesty little kid.

  • ellinas

    Please explain how is he supposed to clean up his home state of corruption at this point.

    ellinas on December 13, 2008 at 03:44 pm

    Asked and answered: He’s the head of the Dem Party, and ran on his “experience” as both a State Senator and a US Senator from Illinois. You really don’t know that?

    robert108 on December 13, 2008 at 03:53 pm

    Your answer does not explain how he is supposed to to clean up his home state of corruption at this point.
    What real or imagined, regular and or special powers does he have, to go after corrupt politicians in home state?
    Please enumerate.
    Your original question, and subsequent answer are high on rhetoric and low on substance.

  • http://2mdh.blogspot.com/ C. Y.

    What I don’t understand is why Obama wasn’t forthcoming about this stuff from the get-go.

    Obama is embarrassed because he was outbid by Jesse Jackson Jr.

  • robert108

    Asked and answered: Leadership. I guess your latest tactic is to play dumb; that won’t work, either. It’s the job of a leader to lead, and to take action to solve problems. He needs to clean up the Dem corruption, by whatever means necessary. After all, he is posing as President, so he should at least sound Presidential.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Ellinas, you lying Marxist fucktard, Obama claims to be leader and is lying about Rahm Emmanuel meeting with Blagojevich.

    Leaders lead by example so he could set an example by telling the truth. That would be a start.

    Only a piece of shit Lying Marxist like you wouldn’t be demanding that he tells the truth.

    You are every bit as corrupt as he is. You continue to support your fellow Marxist liar even though you and everybody else knows he’s lying.

    Remember, when he lies to the public he’s lying to you to. Just because you don’t mind liars or being lied to pretending not understand that he’s a corrupt piece of shit doesn’t change anything. He was, is and always will be a corrupt piece of shit and a liar, JUST LIKE YOU.

    BTW, don’t call me brother again. Ever.

  • robert108

    Every politician new or veteran, young or old, campaigns with promises he can’t or won’t deliver.

    Wrong again! Ronald Reagan made three campaign promises, all of which he kept. You have become so inured to leftie lying that you can see nothing else, and accept lying as normal.
    That is your sickness.

    Sarah was more qualified to be President than either Obama, McCain or Biden. I voted for the right person, you voted for a corrupt fool.
    Your corrupt attempts to excuse this behavior on the part of your Messiah are noted.

  • robert108

    And what a landslide it was…we are still trying to dig our way out from under the Raygun legacy.

    Yeah; you lefties are trying to dig your way to Communist China.

  • Mickey


    Blagojevich…

    Bigboyavich…

    There’s something about these guys I can’t put my finger on.

  • ellinas

    Ellinas, you lying Marxist fucktard, Obama claims to be leader and is lying about Rahm Emmanuel meeting with Blagojevich.
    Leaders lead by example so he could set an example by telling the truth. That would be a start.
    Only a piece of shit Lying Marxist like you wouldn’t be demanding that he tells the truth.
    You are every bit as corrupt as he is. You continue to support your fellow Marxist liar even though you and everybody else knows he’s lying.
    Remember, when he lies to the public he’s lying to you to. Just because you don’t mind liars or being lied to pretending not understand that he’s a corrupt piece of shit doesn’t change anything. He was, is and always will be a corrupt piece of shit and a liar, JUST LIKE YOU.
    BTW, don’t call me brother again. Ever.

    Bullwinkle on December 13, 2008 at 07:50 pm

    Mr. brother Bullwinkle. Upon finishing reading your post, I have realized how much you love me. I am touched, touched I say, by your brotherly love and tender words.

    Please be advised, whether lying or not, Mr. Barak Husein Obama our president elect, is no different than any of the politicians of this great country. His lying makes you froth at the mouth. Did our current president’s lies ever bring forth such emotions to you?
    Mr. brother Bullwinkle. In closing, I wish to again, wish you and yours merry Christmas and a happy new year.
    May the Lords blessings be with you and yours today, and everyday.
    Sincerely,
    your brother from another mother, and a different father, Ellinas.

  • robert108

    Please be advised, whether lying or not, Mr. Barak Husein Obama our president elect, is no different than any of the politicians of this great country.

    That’s not how he campaigned! He was the new, fresh guy, the “lightworker” who was going to save us all, unite us, and usher in a new age of wonderfulness. We were told that his election was “historic”, and now you tell us he’s just another crooked politician, no different from any other? Is this the latest Dem talking point to cover for his lack of leadership?

    What a disappointment! We should have elected someone who know something, not this inexperienced fool!

  • thetodd

    Hey moron, if you weren’t a lying piece of shit you’d admit that Rob is holding Obama responsible for things he’s actually done.

    Things like being from Illinois. Damn him!

    My older brother is a lawyer in Chicago. I bet he’s involved too!!!

  • pparets

    See!!??? You really need sleep…..

  • pparets

    Hahahaha! You need to go to bed now….

  • robert108

    e liar: I’m sorry you can’t understand simple English, but we elected the wrong man, which was clearly what I said. Obama no more deserves to be President than does Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky or “God Damn America” Wright. Sorry you were unable to discern my obvious meaning. By “we” I mean the American voting populace. Duh.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Another playes in the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, the New York Times:

    CHICAGO — President-elect Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, communicated with the office of Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois about potential candidates for Mr. Obama’s Senate seat and provided a list of names, according to two Obama associates briefed on the matter.

    Heh. And stop calling me brother you piece of shit. You never would have made it with your pathological lying growing up in my parent’s house. They would have beaten the lying out of you and it would have justified. The only thing remaining of you would have a lump of shit with a little hair on it.

    Go fuck yourself liar.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    No Christmas?

    But this is a Christian nation.

    Why do you hate America?

    Merry Christmas Mr. Bull.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    What??? you been talking my by best gal?

  • pparets

    now, now…. 69,445,367 for Mr. Obama to 59,923,677 for Mr. McCain isn’t a landslide.

    When Mr. Reagan got 54,455,472 over Mr. Mondale’s 37,577,352… THAT was a landslide!

  • ellinas

    That’s not how he campaigned!

    robert108 on December 13, 2008 at 09:42 pm

    Every politician new or veteran, young or old, campaigns with promises he can’t or won’t deliver.

    What a disappointment! We should have elected someone who know something, not this inexperienced fool!

    robert108 on December 13, 2008 at 09:42 pm

    Don’t be dissaspointed, you voted for Sarah. Remember?

    Once again, you have avoided my question. What real or imagined, regular and or special powers does he have, to go after corrupt politicians in home state?
    Enumerate for us all here at SAB what means he has available to him clean up his home state of corruption at this point.
    Your original question, subsequent answers and new questions are high on rhetoric and low on substance.

  • ellinas

    Heh. And stop calling me brother you piece of shit. You never would have made it with your pathological lying growing up in my parent’s house. They would have beaten the lying out of you and it would have justified. The only thing remaining of you would have a lump of shit with a little hair on it.

    Go fuck yourself liar.

    Bullwinkle on December 14, 2008 at 03:31 am

    Mr brother Bullwinkle. Did they *your parents) beat you often? Call you names? Now I understand your loving behaviour, and tender words.
    Mr. brother Bullwinkle. In closing, I wish to again, wish you and yours merry Christmas and a happy new year.
    May the Lords blessings be with you and yours today, and everyday.
    Sincerely,
    your brother from another mother, and a different father, Ellinas.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    And what a landslide it was…we are still trying to dig our way out from under the Raygun legacy.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    No, they never beat me because I wasn’t a lying piece of shit Marxist like you. Your parents should have beaten you until you stopped lying, in other words, to death.

    Someone will someday. I hope it’s soon. I hope they take their time doing it. A long time.

    BTW, I’m Jewish you ignorant fucktard. Jews don’t celebrate Christmas.

    Go fuck yourself.

  • http://www.kenmccracken.blogspot.com/ Ken McCracken

    Hmmm, Obama is lying about things he doesn’t need to lie about . . .

    A sure sign that this scandal is much deeper than we know so far.

    Too funny. Obama’s presidency may well be over before it even begins.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    No, that would be the gop free trade agreements.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    What were Reagan’s three promises?

    Did you write in Sarah’s name or did you vote for McCain/Palin?

  • robert108

    Do you really want me to know? Why not just tell me what you want me to know?

    I admit I was wrong to expect you to want to know the truth. Your identity is completely involved with your partisan lying, and I had no business tempting you to educate yourself. Please stay ignorant; it’s what you do best.

  • robert108

    You did not participate in the election of MR Barak Husein Obama.

    Of course I didn’t vote for a commie!

    Enumerate for us all here at SAB what means he has available to him clean up his home state of corruption at this point.

    Answered multiple times; he’s the leader of his Party; he should lead, instead of trying to hide from the issue of his political buddy being corrupt. He’s lying and denying instead of leading. A leader owns the problem and takes action; Obama is trying to distance himself from the problem, and is avoiding action.
    Why should I ever answer any question from you if you are incapable of recognizing the answer?

    What were Reagan’s three promises?

    Google it; I’m not your mommy.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Still upset about the landslide loss, huh Mr. Bull?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    So, you don’t know what the promises were. Typical.

    You have never answered my question about writing in Sarah’s name.

    Did you write in Sarah’s name or did you vote McCain/Palin?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    The point Rob was making is that Obama wouldn’t have to lie if he didn’t have something to cover up.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    I know what they were, but you don’t. You admit your ignorance on this subject,..

    Yes, I am ignorant of what Reagan’s three promises were.

    You wrote that you wanted me to know. Why not tell me what the 3 promises were? If you don’t know, which is understandable, why not just admit it?

  • robert108

    rbb: Thanks for reminding me that when I try to have an honest discussion with a narcissist like you, it’s like fighting with a pig; even when I win, I get shit all over me.

  • ellinas

    Try googling it; you might learn something.

    robert108 on December 14, 2008 at 09:13 am

    Mr. Robert108, you have stated in the past that google lies.
    Now you are asking someone to google it. Has your position changed?

  • ellinas

    Ellinas, lying piece of shit Marxist and illiterate asshole
    I’m not your brother you little lying bitch. Quit acting like you have any concern about me, everyone knows you don’t.
    There is no ‘c’ in Bullwinkle you turd. That’s because you have taken them all with your other name, you stupid, illiterate CUNT.
    Now go fuck yourself, liar.
    Bullwinkle on December 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Mr. brother Bullwincle. Thank you for your kind words.
    Merry Christmas to you too sir.
    May the Lords blessings be with you and yours today, and everyday.

  • robert108

    You are unable to present a counter argument, and so try to make your ignorance about me. Won’t work; put up or shut up.

  • ellinas

    Where’s Obama’s leadership?

    robert108 on December 13, 2008 at 11:49 am

    He is looking for it. Give him a chance to find it.
    Please explain how is he suppose to clean up his home state of corruption at this point.

  • robert108

    Your attempts to distract with bullshit personal attacks is noted.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Amen to that, brother!

  • robert108

    Puzzling position to take.

    Only to a moron; “we”, as I have already told you, refers to the American voting populace. Do you deny that Obama was elected by the American voters?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Hey, nobody made Obama befriend Blago. Nobody made Obama be less than truthful about his and his staff’s contacts with Blago.

    How about you holding Obama responsible for things he’s actually done?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    I voted for Sarah

    ooooh! a write in.

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