Obama’s Next Anti-Energy Trick: Shutting Down Dozens Of Coal Plants With New EPA Regulations

After announcing that he’ll continue to stonewall the development of the Keystone XL pipeline, which would not only facilitate the flow of Canadian energy into American markets but also provide crucial infrastructure to bring energy from states like North Dakota to market, President Obama’s next move is to shut down dozens of coal-fired electric plants which provide enough energy to power some 11 million homes.

An Associated Press analysis has found that more than 32 mostly coal-fired power plants in a dozen states will be forced to close because of the new, more stringent regulations. Another 36 plants are at risk of closing.

No lights will go dark. But the Environmental Protection Agency has estimated that 14.7 gigawatts — enough power for more than 11 million households — will be retired from the power grid in the 2014-15 period when the rules take effect. One rule curbs air pollution in states downwind from dirty power plants. Another sets first standards for mercury and other toxic pollutants from smokestacks.

The effect is greatest in the Midwest and in coal belt states such as Virginia and West Virginia, where dozens of units are likely to shut down.

Take Giles County, where American Electric Power’s Glen Lyn plant is located, and where 44 jobs are on the line.

County Administrator Chris McKlarney worries about the $600,000 tax-revenue hit his $40 million budget will take. But that’s just one concern involving a plant and workers whose community contribution is “hard to quantify.”

“They’ve done so much donation-wise for local causes … And they’re really good people working there,” he said. “They’re coaches in Little League sports, involved in the Parent-Teacher Organization — you lose those kind of people, it’s tough.”

And they’re good jobs — stable, well-paying positions with good benefits in places where such things can be hard to find.

This sort of energy scarcity may be just what Obama’s cronies in the “green” energy industry need to be competitive – wind and solar power just can’t compete in a free energy market – but it is certainly not what a stagnating economy needs.

Beyond the jobs lost at these plants, and the loss of jobs that supported those plants, is the higher energy prices which will make the cost of living and doing business higher for everyone in America.

All in the name of environmental standards that have more to do with cosmetics than air quality.

For you North Dakota readers out there, so far our state has dodged this bullet. The EPA has delayed a decision on whether or not to take over our state-run regional haze program.

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  • borborygmi

    This is all taking place after he is out of office.   Ain’t going to happen.  This way he can save face with his base.  Politics as usual…..sigh

    • Anonymous

      Actually he has already done it here in Green Bay. His lapdog EPA has forced the JP Pulliam plant to shut down one of their older units. Prior to his election, that plant was given a permit to operate for another decade before review. This crap will happen everywhere. We are looking at greatly increased electricy rates because of this liberal demagogue.

      • Anonymous

        The ObamaNation leg irons will be removed with a GOP sweep in 2012.

        American born energy is just waiting for the word to GET TO WORK.

  • Anonymous

    Creative destruction .

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Creative destruction is when something is replaced int he market by something better. Not when something that is still very marketable is driven from the market by government regulations because of political motivations.

    • Anonymous

      not very creative considering the backwards direction he is taking with wind and solar

      • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

        To paraphrase Samuel Johnson: What is good about the Obama Regime is not original, and what is original is not good.

  • Anonymous

    Old coal plants poison the populace.

    • Anonymous

      freezing to death is quicker

      liberals poison the mind

      • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

        They poison Life.

    • 2hotel9

      And yet another lie from the lie&sh*t spewing liar woofie, and the lie&sh*t spewing liars at EPA and DNC.

  • Fighting Czech

    Speaking of poisoning .  cant wait to see everyone going back to wood stoves to heat their houses…even people with respiratory problems will tolerate the added pollution if it means not freezing to death…  

    • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

      In third world countries they used to (and maybe still do) burn animal dung for heating and cooking. The reduction of pollution comes with efficiency. Coal powered plants for thousands are more efficient than thousands of wood (and dung) fires.

      • Fighting Czech

        Exactly my point.  My monthly heating bill is already making me seriously consider putting a wood stove back in… cant imagine ill be the only one by a long shot.   Then you will see a REAL increase in pollution.  not to mention House fires,  carbon Monoxide poisonings and related deaths….

        • Jamermorrow

          I have a feeling it will get much worse once Europe gets its problems under control. A falling dollar has been responsible for the increase in energy prices. Other countries are seeing falling energy prices.

      • 2hotel9

        Proof? Apropos of nothing in this thread, here is a post from Doug Hoffman that you may find interesting enough for a front page post here.

         http://resilientearth.com/?q=content/stone-age-america-pyramids-and-big-muddy

        Aught to get the leftards screeching effeminately in short order.

  • Anonymous

    “Progressives” will soon have us riding on horseback to the nearest coalvein so we can eat warm beans & bisquits fresh out of the dutch oven.

    (no trees in ND)

    • Fighting Czech

      Not a problem finding trees….. they come floating up the Red River every Springr!!!!

  • Anonymous

    When America announces that we are back in the oil, gas and coal business, the price of energy will plummet. Cheap energy will lead US back to economic health as the domino’s fall towards prosperity. EPA lawyers will be forced to stand down as funding for their nefarious work is cut off.

    Vote for some honest change this time….vote for a pro-American Energy government that puts high paying jobs on the front burner. Vote for the Canadian Pipeline. Vote for the great awakening that will be our economy once the leg irons of ObamaNation are removed. Vote GOP in 2012.

    • Jamermorrow

      If we start producing cheap energy most of it will get exported. The United States is broke and other countries will outbid the U.S.. Petroleum products were are largest export last year. As the dollar continues to slide we will export even more. Luckily the falling Euro has been helping the U.S. for the time being.

      • Anonymous

        nonsense….cheap enegy begins at home

        • Jamermorrow

          and it can be sold to whoever bids the highest.

          • 2hotel9

            Which is what you hate, individual liberty, capitalism, America, all things that piss you off fake anarchist.

        • 2hotel9

          Exactly why fake anarchist keeps screeching for America’s energy production to be shutdown. That is how leftarded c*nts like him want to drag America into the sh*thole of 3rd world poverty.

  • Jamermorrow

    I have a feeling most of our energy we produce is going to be exported in the future. The United States is broke and still trying to live of the wealth of our Grandfathers/greatgrandfathers. We have no savings and can only buy products as long we can borrow money. Once interest rates rise our consumer based economy is going to collapse. The energy market will still be a great place to work because other countries will be more than willing to buy our energy.

    • 2hotel9

      Really, fake anarchist? We are “exporting” electricity? Got proof of this lie? Oh, yea, you don’t. All you do is spew lies, as usual.

      • Jamermorrow

        The number one export in 2011 was petroleum products. In the future more of energy will be exported. Not sure where I can get statistics on something I think will happen in the future. I look at our savings rate, amount of debt, amount of production, and compare it to other countries. I know inflation is going to be rampant in the U.S. which will weaken the dollar. A weak dollar means more exports of our products. 

        • 2hotel9

          Again, fake anarchist, how is America going to “export” electricity? Closing electric generation plants and block petroleum production IN America is hurting our economy, and you support anything that does that.

          • Jamermorrow

            Coal can be exported. Oil can be exported. Windmills can be exported. The list goes on.

          • Anonymous

            Most of the windmills that you find in America were imported from europe

          • 2hotel9

            So, your whole point is we have to shutdown all electricity, petroleum and mining production because it can all create wealth for Americans. OK, fake anarchist, we get it. Your same line of sh*t.

          • Jamermorrow

            What? People are going to sell to the highest bidder. American is broke and will no longer be the highest bidder.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have told us, repeatedly, that you want to shutdown all energy production, mining and petroleum production, endlessly without end. Now, just tell us WHY you want America driven into poverty and starvation. It is your stated political goal, now explain and justify it.

  • Anonymous

    The Dem’cats………..they want coal fired cars to be built ala the Chev Volt……….but they dont want the energy source to supply them with the power……

    meanwhile their alternate sources of power are going broke faster than the Volt can drive at top speed….

    typical dem’cat shortsightedness in economics……..just adds to their 100% failure list

  • Anonymous

    Do not cry for power plants that were built in the 1920′s, 1930′s, and 1940′s.
    Time to enter the 21st century. Time to build modern efficient and clean coal power plants.

    • 2hotel9

      EPA refuses to all them to be built. And when EPA finally issues a permit the builders are blocked by environazi obstructionists with frivolous law suits.

      • Anonymous

        I have found no evidence that the owner of this power plant has applied for a license to build a new power plant.

        • 2hotel9

          Really, liar? Then how did EPA deny those permits, if they were never applied for, whinny lying c*nt? EPA says it has denied them. Are you calling them liars, ec*nt?

          • Anonymous

            Really, Mr 2 hotel9. If you have nay evidence to the contrary, present it.

            PS:Nobody is impressed by your vulgarity and rude manners.

          • 2hotel9

            Burden of proof is on you, ec*nt. Prove the EPA is lying.

          • Anonymous

             Nobody is impressed by your vulgarity and rude manners.

          • 2hotel9

            Still can’t prove the EPA has refused  permits smoke stack/furnace/boiler
            upgrades, ec*nt? Wonder why you can not prove any of the lies you spew.

            You have lost, yet again, ec*nt. Now, confirm it. Post another comment. I order you to.

        • Anonymous

          You don’t apply for a license to update an existing plant. The last coal power plant built was in 2008 in Wausau, Wisconsin

          • 2hotel9

            Actually you do have to apply for permission from the EPA, and OSHA, DeptCommerce, DeptInterior, and multiple state level agencies to update existing plants. And the process is further complicated by unending frivolous lawsuits from environazi groups, at Federal, state and local levels.

          • Anonymous

            I agree, but he said “license” which is a different document all together

          • 2hotel9

            Oh, ec*nt will twirl&spin, obfuscate and outright lie no matter what the subject.

          • Anonymous

            License to mean anything that has to do with building a power plant.
            So in that context, license to me means permit, permission, license, OSHA,  SMOSHA,
            EPA, Dept of the Interior, OK from the Queen of England, the multiple state level agencies, the CIA the FBI, the local environazi group the regional environmental group, all the BRIBES in the form of campaign donations, and finaly you have notified Mr 2hotel9 of your intent.

            I hope the above clears the misunderstanding.

          • Anonymous

             Excuse me?
             Mickey. I said: “I have found no evidence that the owner of this power plant has applied for a license to build a new power plant.”

            And you, Mickey answered: “You don’t apply for a license to update an existing plant. The last coal
            power plant built was in 2008 in Wausau, Wisconsin.”

            Two different things Mickey. Two entirely different things.
            I am talking about building a new one, and you are talking about upgrading.

          • Anonymous

            I think you and I are talking about two different plants as well.

          • Anonymous

             License to mean anything that has to do with building a power plant.
            So in that context, license to me means permit, permission, license, OSHA,  SMOSHA, EPA,
            Dept of the Interior, OK from the Queen of England, the multiple state
            level agencies, the CIA the FBI, the local environazi group, the regional
            environmental group, all the BRIBES in the form of campaign donations,
            and finaly you have notified Mr 2hotel9 of your intent.

            I hope the above clears the misunderstanding.

          • 2hotel9

            Still can’t prove the EPA has refused permits smoke stack/furnace/boiler
            upgrades, ec*nt? Wonder why you can not prove any of the lies you spew.

            You have lost, yet again, ec*nt. Now, confirm it. Post another comment. I order you to.

    • Anonymous

      Those power plants were updated over the years with technology relative to the time they were updated. The only “old” part of the plant is the building itself.

      • Anonymous

        Mickey, I do support coal power plants, and have no problem with building more. I am opposed to maintaining the ones that were built in the beginning of the last cenury.

        Now, I am a bit confused here. You say they were updated, but our in house expert on everything say, claims and maintains they were not.

        Per our in house expert on everything: “Really, ec*nt? Tell us why EPA has blocked every attempt to modernize
        Glen Lyn. Explain to us why EPA refuses to allow modern smoke stack
        systems to be placed into the furnace/boiler systems at Glen Lyn.”
        Mr 2hotel9 claims, says , and maintains that no upgrading too place. You say there was upgrading done.

        Help me reconcile the two competing claims.
        One of you is lying to me. Who is it?

        • Anonymous

           2hotel9 is correct about the process to upgrade the existing plant. The plant in Green Bay has been upgraded many times over the history of that plant. The industry has clean coal technology and many of those updates are included in that process. Every power plant has to go through a state and federal process to “keep” their existing operating license via periodic reviews where they get extensions for a specified period. The plant may be old but much of the technology inside could be state of the art. Some old plants have multiple generating systems of various age and updates. It is up to the owners of the plant to invest in keeping them up to standard. We run into problems when the EPA starts changing the regulations under pressure from an administration that is tilted toward an agenda of green energy. The process is complicated, expensive and time consuming. It doesn’t help when the federal government stacks the deck against you. Obama is not doing you any favors by his anti coal policies.

          • Anonymous

            Mickey. You say: “Those power plants were updated over the years with technology relative
            to the time they were updated. The only “old” part of the plant is the
            building itself.”

            Mr 2hotel9 clearly says they were not: “Really, ec*nt? Tell us why EPA has blocked every attempt to modernize
            Glen Lyn.Explain to us why EPA refuses to allow modern smoke stack
            systems to be placed into the furnace/boiler systems at Glen Lyn.”

            Now you say that Mr 2hotel9 is correct about the process to upgrade the existing plant.

            Why are you jerking me around like a fool?
            Were the plants I am talking about updated and upgraded?
            Please answer with a yes or no.

            If yes, then Mr 2hotel9 is a lying liar.
            If no, you are either mistaken, or are being less than truthful.
            Which is it? YES or NO?

          • 2hotel9

            You have lost, yet again, ec*nt. Now, confirm it. Post another comment. I order you to.

          • Anonymous

            we may be talking about two different power plants.

            Old power plants do get upgrades from time to time. The crux of the story is that Obama and the EPA are playing games with the rules and the end result will be fewer power plants and more expensive energy prices.
            They are doing it to promote the green agenda, no matter what it costs. If we start trimming their salaries to be more in line with the private sector and lay off 20% of staff they would change their tune.

          • Anonymous

            Mickey, we are not talking about different plants.
            You are being evasive and less than truthful for the benefit of a common cur.
            Nice going.

          • 2hotel9

            No, ec*nt is screeching for the complete shutdown of all coal fired power. Then she will screech for the shutdown of all hydroelectric plants. She has already screeched for the shutdown of all nuclear power.

          • Anonymous

             Nah! you don’t say.
            You ain’t shitting me now, are you Mr hotel?

          • chris

            Don’t mind 2hotel9, he’s a little messed up in the head.

          • Anonymous

            I have been dealing with this mangy cur for many years
            An undercover America hating idiot he is.

          • 2hotel9

            Says the illegal alien welfare whore. Or is this just your latest suckpuppet?

          • Anonymous

            Right on queue. Spewing racist antiamerican propaganda.

          • 2hotel9

            See? ec*nt has lost, again, and can’t help but keep proving it. I order her to and she does, over and over. Then you got chrisee, the Occutard, screeching its anti-American sh*t. Or perhaps they are one in the same. ec*nt has a history of suckpuppetry, and chrisee is spewing the same sh*t she does.

          • chris

            you’re the only one screeching anti-American sh*t.  You’re making the whole country look bad with your incoherent ramblings.  You don’t even make sense.

          • 2hotel9

            Poor widdle chrisee, still screeching your America hate and proving you have lost. Go ahead. Prove you have lost again. Post another comment, stupid c*nt. I order you to.

          • 2hotel9

            Good job, Mic!  You got her twirling and screeching with a single post.

        • 2hotel9

          Easily reconciled, ec*nt. You are the one spewing lies and sh*t, as you always do.

          • Anonymous

             Not realy, Mr 2hotel9, not realy.

  • Awfulorv

    The average American voter has spent far too much time in dimly lit, Indian casinos without learning anything.  How else to explain their bet on Barack Obama?  A large segment of voters thought they had the game of voter Craps figured out, but they were disastrously wrong. They’d become accustomed to making foolish bets and,  doing so, had to, eventually, “Seven Out”. It didn’t help that Barack’s buddies, the Stickmen, also known as the MSM, kept touting them on  wrong bets.   This time around voters must not go “All In” with that enticing Field bet, rather they would do well to follow the bets of the guys who’ve played at the table many times. Who know the proper odds, at least, of the bets they’re making.  Sometimes despite even the noise emanating from their ex-wives, who’ve lost their stake at the Slots, and life,  and now need replenishment, or there’ll be hell to pay. 

  • Anonymous

    Mr Port says: “Take Giles County, where American Electric Power’s Glen Lyn plant is located, and where 44 jobs are on the line.”

    The truth: The Glen Lyn plant, is 92 years old
    and nearing the end of its life span.
    The Glen Lyn plant, is used only during peak
    demand in the winter and summer, had been slated to close in 2018.
    Many workers have transferred to more modern plants or are making plans to retire.

    How much longer is the electrical company going to milk this old cow?
    Her milk is like poison:The plant released about 217,000 pounds of toxins — mostly hydrochloric
    and sulfuric acids, with smaller amounts of lead and mercury compounds
    – in 2009, according to the Virginia Department of Environmental
    Quality.

    • 2hotel9

      Really, ec*nt? Tell us why EPA has blocked every attempt to modernize Glen Lyn. Explain to us why EPA refuses to allow modern smoke stack systems to be placed into the furnace/boiler systems at Glen Lyn.  Don’t just spew the sh*t from DNC talking points, explain to us why Glen Lyn HAS to be closed and no new plant is allowed to be built to replace it.

      • Anonymous

        Really, Mr 2hotel9. If you have any evidence to the contrary, present it.

        • 2hotel9

          Burden of proof is on you, ec*nt. Prove the EPA is lying.

          • Anonymous

             Mr 2hotel9. If you have any evidence to the contrary, present it. Burden of proof is on you Mr hotel. Prove that I am mistaken.

          • 2hotel9

            Still can’t prove the EPA has refused permits smoke stack/furnace/boiler
            upgrades, ec*nt? Wonder why you can not prove any of the lies you spew.

            You have lost, yet again, ec*nt. Now, confirm it. Post another comment. I order you to.

        • 2hotel9

          Still can’t prove the EPA has refused permits smoke stack/furnace/boiler upgrades, ec*nt? Wonder why you can not prove any of the lies you spew.

          • Anonymous

            Mr 2hotel9. If you have any evidence to the contrary, present it.

          • 2hotel9

            Still can’t prove the EPA has refused permits smoke stack/furnace/boiler
            upgrades, ec*nt? Wonder why you can not prove any of the lies you spew.

            You have lost, yet again, ec*nt. Now, confirm it. Post another comment. I order you to.

      • chris

        The EPA did not prohibit Glen Lyn from modernizing it’s power plant, in fact Glen Lyn had made many improvements and efficiencies over the years, they’re just no longer good enough for the new stricter environmental standards.  To be fair, American Electric Power (AEP) actually supports these EPA regulations, the only criticism is the unrealistic compliance timelines, and they may have a point there.

        • chris

          Here is the source of my information if you want to look at it:

          http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/299470

          Although I don’t believe 2hotel9 has the coherence to objectively read it.  All he sees is Occutard, c*nt, America hater, because he knows deep down inside that’s what he really is.

          • 2hotel9

            Really, widdle chrisee? Then why has the EPA repeatedly said they have refused Glen Lyn permits for new scrubber system, new boiler/furnace system and new ash handling system? Or are you calling EPA liars the same as ec*nt is?

    • 2hotel9

      You have lost, yet again, ec*nt. Now, confirm it. Post another comment. I order you to.

  • Anonymous

    The EPA is full of like minded enviro activists. That’s the way the left works.

    • JustRuss

      “Under my plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket”

  • Jack Daniels

    Remember the candidate who pushed and campaigned for Obumble and his Marxist agenda since 2008 and solidly tied herself to his anti-energy, anti-prosperity, anti-American, and anti-North Dakota agenda.

  • WTF?

    myself and 500 others in my state are losing our jobs because of these plants closing….I am aware of the pollution that coal plants generate but so do nuclear plants to a point with the nuclear waste and chance for a devistating disaster….think of my co workers and there families the next time you crank the AC or charge your Iphone or to anyone that is pro green everything while they are sipping on a plastic water bottle and then throwing it in the trash…..

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