Obama’s Cognitive Dissonance On Gun Control

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During a “fireside hangout” facilitated by social media, President Obama was asked why his gun control proposals target so-called “assault weapons” but not handguns which are involved in far more crimes and violence?

The Presidents response was illuminating, but not in a direct way:

During a Google Plus “Fireside Hangout,” Obama was asked why he favored a ban on assault weapons, which account for only a small percentage of gun deaths, as opposed to handguns, which are responsible for the majority.

“I actually don’t think we should ban handguns,” Obama said. “But keep in mind what we’re trying to do is come up with a package that protects Second Amendment rights but also contributes to reduce violence.”

Obama said assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are “generally not used for hunting,” and that while banning them won’t “solve every problem,” it “can play a meaningful part” in reducing gun violence.

Well, handguns aren’t generally used for hunting, but they are used in a lot more crime than any sort of long-barreled weapon. The thing is, it’s a lot easier to stir up political dissent against scary “assault weapons” than handguns.

Which lays bare the President’s motivations with regard to gun control. It’s not really about crime. It’s about leveraging an incidence of mass murder into policy which makes gun ownership harder. Politically, restrictions on “assault weapons” are an easier sell than restrictions on handguns, so Obama takes the path of least resistance.

To be clear, I don’t think that restrictions on handguns would do anything with regard to crime or violence either. I think those who equate gun control with crime control are mistaken. But Obama does believe that gun control is crime control, but you couldn’t tell that from his gun control platform.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    “This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety … While we recognize that assault-weapon legislation will not stop all assault-weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals” – Ronaldo Reagan

    “I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.” – Ronaldo Reagan

    “Every year, an average of 9,200 Americans are murdered by handguns, according to Department of Justice statistics. This does not include suicides or the tens of thousands of robberies, rapes and assaults committed with handguns. This level of violence must be stopped.” – Ronaldo Reagan

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Who ever said Ronald Reagan was infallible?

      • $8194357

        The Pope?

        • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

          Heh.

          • $8194357

            could be, no.

      • slackwarerobert

        Actually Ronald Reagan, he said his scotus mistakes are the biggest, and he was right.

    • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

      We’re not talking about machine guns so the second quote is rather meaningless.

      The first quote is from around the time (1994) Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. I think it’s likely the opinion of those around him rather than what he would have done during his good years.

      • slackwarerobert

        Yes we are, because all assault weapons have an auto fire selector switch. Obama is using the cannon fodder to ban non assault weapons.

        • $8194357

          dissinformation propaganda to perpetuate the crisis…

          • slackwarerobert

            No, an assault weapon by definition can fire automatic, none on obamas or feinsteins list will do that. They only look like the ones that do when viewed from far away so you can’t see there is no selector for full auto. A gatling gun will put the bushmaster to shame, and it is the same class of weapon.

          • $8194357

            I know…
            Thats what i said…
            with dis information and propaganda they
            say “semi autos” are assault rifles while the
            know it all know nothings march in lock step
            with the propaganda agendas…

          • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

            you’re right.

      • SusanBeehler

        The definition depends on if your a machine or if you are a gun or child being killed by a bushmaster.

        • two_amber_lamps

          Well, you certainly fall into the “machine” category… though “machine” is a bit elaborate a title for a tool.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            You can understand WTF SAB’s pet twit is trying to say!?

          • two_amber_lamps

            No, not really… sort of like listening to a stroke victim with aphasia. Except I think the stroke victim’s cognitive faculties operate at a much higher level of reasoning.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            I wasn’t prepared to suggest brain injury, but you might well be on the right track. Suzy just didn’t have the reserves going into her brain damage.

          • two_amber_lamps

            I’ve got a little experience with this since my dad stroked in Sept. He’s better now but at the time it was very frustrating since he KNEW what he wanted to say, it just wouldn’t come out right.

            In Lil Ms. SuzyBS’ers case there’s not much cogency to the original thought process to even warrant trying to sort thru the muck. I just pick out the intelligible parts and beat her over the head with it.

          • $8194357

            fool tools

        • slackwarerobert

          the latter I would call stupid obama supporter, a bushmaster in a closed environment is at best an even match for a handgun. But since obama wouldn’t let the child have one to save themselves……

        • $16179444

          and yet a blind eye is turned when that same child was aborted.

      • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

        Since the troll quoting Reagan didn’t bother to cite the source or context of the quotes (as usual) it’s harder to identify when the statements were made, but I would venture they were made before Reagan had opportunity to observe the failure of the last “Assault” Weapon Ban, which did nothing to attain those goals. In hindsight, I think we can forgive Reagan for his misplaced optimism.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          How can you prove a negative? By all means, please explain yourself. We can see by current gun statistics that as hand gun ownership has went down per capita all across the country, so has gun related violence.

          • Greg

            You haven’t been to Chicago have you?
            Owned and run by dems with some of the strictest gun laws in the country, and gun violence the highest.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “as hand gun ownership has went (sic) down”

            First of all, if you are able, Tiny Mindless troll, please cite any statistics you have that handgun ownership “has went down (sic)”, much less is responsible for the decrease in crime.

            Plus, the US has more guns per capita, period, than any other country on earth. Are you going to try to prove the negative that an abundance of those long guns, along with handguns, being used in self defense, could not be responsible for a decrease in gun related violence?

            According to Gallup in 2011, “Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993″ http://www.gallup.com/poll/150353/self-reported-gun-ownership-highest-1993.aspx

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Ah, midget troll! How thoughtful (or inept) of you to provide a chart with absolutely no reference to when the study was taken, or any of its qualifiers. (Unlike the link I provided you.)

            Link us to the post that used this graph or directly to the Gallup poll it was taken from.

            To quote from the first page of the site you linked to: As the great Bill James once said, the alternative to “good statistics” is not “no statistics,” it’s “bad statistics.”

            Given that you have given no context for this graph, we’ll consider that “bad statistics” until proven otherwise.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So in your tiny, dysfunctional brain you believe the overall household pistol ownership percentage has gone up since 1970 through 2010? Do you think this Gallup Poll was taken in 2008, or 1990??

            Here’s what you asked for:

            “please cite any statistics you have that handgun ownership “has went down” – Poofy

            Move goal posts much?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Poor ignorant troll! While it is true that the poll purports to track these statistics from 1959 to 2010, it does not cite when the poll was taken. Unless you believe today is Jan. 1, 2011, then you are a fool if you think the date the poll was taken is self evident.

            Stop being a child. If you don’t know when the poll was taken, just say so.

            Asking when the poll was taken is not “moving the goal posts”, ignorant child. Asking to see the data backing up the poll is not “moving the goal posts”, ignorant child.

            And as to your use of quotation marks, you quote me without my noting your original abysmal grammar, and as such is a dishonest quote. But, then, we typically expect as much from you, lying troll.

            If you had the brains to quote me correctly, the quote would have looked like this:

            “…please cite any statistics you have that handgun ownership “has went down (sic)”,

            Or has your IQ “went down” (sic) since you said it, Tiny Sociopath? (If such a thing were even possible!)

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I guess we can add the words “moving the goal posts” to the long, long list of words that you don’t understand their meaning. And quit copying Rbb, You aren’t nearly smart enough to steal his wit.

            In your original request, you did not ask for all of this new criteria you are demanding, so that you can make sense of what you are reading.

            Just so I know the true depths of your stupidity, can you please let me know when YOU think this poll was taken? 1990, or 2009? Please give me an insight to just how stupid you are, so I know where to start.

            Heh!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “I guess we can put the words “moving the goal posts” to the long, long list of words that you don’t understand their meaning.”

            I’ve always said you were irony impaired, Tiny Sociopath. Who else could parrot me almost word for word and then accuse me of copying someone else? Too funny Parrot Boy!

            See the above comment where I spoke of your inability to provide meaningful data to back up what you assert, in order to converse rationally, or in an adult manner.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Speaking of “moving the goal posts”, witless child, let me remind you of the original statement I asked you to defend:

            “We can see by current gun statistics that as hand gun ownership has went (sic) down per capita all across the country…”

            Since the Gallup polls I cited show gun ownership going up since 2010, how is showing a trend that purportedly ended in 2010 be in anyone’s imagination “current”? (Other than the imagination of a braindead, pitiful, sociopathic troll, who cannot even fully document the outdated statistics he quotes.)

            Do you believe that it is still 2010, BraindeadTrollitized? Or shall we merely add “current” to the ever growing, never shrinking, long, long list of English words you cannot quite understand?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            And just in case you are thinking about running like a scalded dog from this discussion, because you cannot back up your supposed “facts”, your unverifiable chart puts the Gallop poll survey at just below 40% of households. However, if you look at the Gallop site and poll I liked to, it shows the percentage in 2010 to be between 41 and 42%.

            So, was it the same poll, only incorrectly rendered on your chart? Or was it a different poll?

            Now please, stamp your preternaturally tiny feet and refuse to give any further information and pretend that your refusal to provide precise data to back up your arguments makes your drivel somehow relevant.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Did you by any chance, quote the Gallup poll through 2010, because, according to Gallup, gun ownership went back up between 2010 and 2012, DishonestIneptSociopathicTrollitized?

            http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poof, you are still having troubles figuring out what years the poll was through? BTW, your link didn’t refer to handgun ownership going up, which was the discussion of our debate, you tiny, inept freakazoid. Your link only asked about hand guns once, but that data was only good until 2007. So your data doesn’t speak to hand gun ownership, but it does show fewer people have guns, more more guns are purchased by one member of the family.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            PoorPitifulFoolitized: I never had trouble ascertaining the period that the poll purports to represent. I merely asked you when the poll was taken, since it is now 2013 (for the clueless sociopaths who might not have noticed) it could have been taken anytime over a period of several years. Since the Gallup poll I linked to shows a rise in gun ownership in late 2010, the poll might not even contain statistics for the full year of 2010. Your childish refusal (or inability) to link to the date of the poll makes it difficult to give it much credence.

            The data I linked to speaks to an increase in gun ownership, some portion of which are handguns, making your outdated statistics even more worthless in proving your point, assuming you had one.

            If you have data that the handgun ownership continued to decline despite a growing percentage of gun ownership, I would be happy to examine it. Unfortunately, you cannot even produce the underlying basis for your outdated stats, much less anything current.

            Toddle off now and let the adults chat.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poof, if you don’t have any stats that show hand gun ownership has increased, just say so. In the meantime, please continue to ignore the factual statistic you asked for, that shows hand gun ownership has steadily decreased since the 70’s, it’s what everyone has come to expect of you.

            Everyone knows that among those gun owners, that have generally decreased in percentage over the last 40 years, many of them are stockpiling firearms. Nice attempt to obfuscate, though.

          • On_A_Waiting_List_To_Buy

            REPORT FROM GUNS & AMMO:

            S&W: Running
            at Full capacity
            making 300+
            guns/day-mainly
            M&P pistols.
            They are unable
            to produce any
            more guns to
            help with the
            shortages.

            RUGER: Plans to
            increase from
            75% to 100% in
            the next 90
            days.

            FNH: Moving from
            50% production
            to 75% by Feb
            1st and 100% by
            March 1.

            Remington: Maxed
            out!

            Armalite: Maxed
            out.

            DPMS: Can’t get
            enough parts to
            produce any more
            product.

            COLT: Production
            runs increasing
            weekly…bottle
            necked by lack
            of bolt
            carrier’s.

            LWRC: Making
            only black guns,
            running at full
            capacity…can’t
            get enough gun
            quality steel to
            make barrels.

            Springfield
            Armory: Only
            company who can
            meet demand but
            are running
            30-45 days
            behind.

            AMMO: Every
            caliber is now
            Allocated! We
            are looking at a
            nation wide
            shortage of all
            calibers over
            the next 9
            months. All
            plants are
            producing as
            much ammo as
            possible w/over
            1 BILLION rounds
            produced weekly.
            Most is military
            followed by L.E.
            and civilians
            are third in
            line.

            MAGPUL: Behind 1
            MILLION mags, do
            not expect any
            large quantities
            of magpul
            anytime soon.

            RELOADERS: ALL
            Remington,
            Winchester, CCI
            & Federal
            primers are
            going to ammo
            FIRST. There are
            no extras for
            reloading
            purposes…it
            could be 6-9
            months before
            things get
            caught up. Sorry
            for the bleak
            news, but now we
            know what to
            expect in the
            coming months.
            Stay tuned,
            we’ll keep you
            posted…

            Related
            commentary from
            Bob Owens:

            They didn’t know
            when they’d be
            getting anything
            back in stock,
            from magazines
            to rifles to
            pistols.
            Manufacturers
            are running
            full-bore, but
            can’t come close
            to keeping up
            with market
            demand. It isn’t
            just the AR-15s,
            the AK-pattern
            rifles, the
            M1As, and the
            FALs that are
            sold out. It
            really hit me
            when I realized
            that the World
            War-era M1
            Garands, M1
            Carbines, and
            Enfield .303s
            are gone, along
            with every last
            shell.
            Ubiquitous
            Mosin-Nagants—of
            which every gun
            store always
            seemed to have
            10-20—are gone.
            So is their
            ammo. Only a
            dust free space
            marked their
            passing. I’ve
            never seen
            anything like
            it.

            Every weapon of
            military utility
            designed within
            the past 100+
            years is gone.
            This isn’t a
            society stocking
            up on certain
            guns because
            they fear they
            may be banned.
            This is a
            society
            preparing for
            war.

            Barack Obama,
            Dianne Feinstein
            and the rest of
            the Statists
            have done more
            to promote gun
            ownership than
            the NRA ever
            did. Well done,
            Democrats!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned.

            This is a society preparing for war.

            You must be very scared of life.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Blah, blah, blah you are going to kill Americans, I get it. So much for being a responsible gun owner.

          • On_A_Waiting_List_To_Buy

            You should address your idiotic comment to the author who wrote the article for guns and ammo. Will you be surrendering your semi automatic weapons and their high capacity magazines, or are you planning to kill true Americans?
            The only thing you get is a tax lien and STD meds, smallwillie.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I’m sorry Witless Child Hanni Boo Boo, but you are the one who made the statement that handgun ownership has decreased. The onus is on you to prove it. I never said I had statistics to prove they had increased, but it is not beyond the realm of possibility that they did, given a verifiable statistical increase in gun ownership.

            Bottom line, Hanni Boo Boo, is that when you make a statement, as you did, the onus is on you to prove it. That is how adults converse, which is probably why it is so foreign to you.

            Despite all your wild delusions of adequacy, you have not given me a verifiable statistic that handgun ownership has decreased. Given the fact that it is now 2013, you have not given me any current statistic that handgun ownership has increased. Why don’t you just go back to bleating that “camp” is short for “campaign”. You’d still be wrong, but might have a better chance of convincing yourself that you are not a complete idiot.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy, I provided verifiable evidence that hand gun ownership has steadily gone down since the 70’s. You just tried to say they went up, but offered no factual evidence showing hand gun ownership increased.

            Nice try, but all the mental gymnastics in the world wont make you look any less stupid.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I’m sorry, Tiny Sociopath, but you have not provided verifiable evidence of anything. We’ll merely add “verifiable” to the ever growing, never shrinking, long, long list of English words you cannot quite understand.

            I have been asking you for the date of the poll or a link or anything that details the source, in order that we might verify your evidence, but you, Hanni Boo Boo Child, are unable to do so.

            In fact, you have posted two different graphs, neither of which has a link to the source and one of which (of which you must be particularly fond, since you posted it three times) has absolutely no date or source at all.

            It takes no “mental gymnastics” to see that you’ve posted nothing that would allow us to verify the data on those two graphs, Tiny Sociopath. If you had at least as much mental acuity as a comatose gerbil, you might have noticed that.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So in your deluded mind, my Gallup poll is not a credible source, but your Gallup poll is, even though it doesn’t say hand gun purchases have increased?

            LOLOLOL.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Sorry, Hanni Boo Boo! I linked to the actual Gallup website that has the date of the poll and information about the methodology of the poll. You linked to a graphic that purports to be a Gallup poll, but, with no link at all to Gallup or the date of the poll or any way to verify it.

            If you think that makes for a equivalency in the quality of the links, then you are just the mind numbed, juvenile half wit we’ve always taken you for.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So it’s another conspiracy, POOF? All of the sources using the poll are also using a fake poll? That’s what you are going with?

            LOLOL.

            Why should I prove the Gallup Poll that is widely used is authentic? It’s much more fun watching you drag this out and make a fool of yourself.

            KEEP DIGGING!!!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Never said it was a conspiracy, DimBulbitized. And that fact that your chart cannot be verified doesn’t hurt my argument, Numbnutsitized. Why don’t you compare my link to the Gallup site to your own worthless link again. That’s always good for a laugh!

            If you can’t provide a link to the source for the chart, just say so.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Are you saying you show a Gallup poll that provides different data for the time that is indicated on my chart? Please, by all means clarify.

            Your problem is you don’t understand my chart, or what’s on it, or who did it.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Your inability to read a graph is duly noted, Tiny Sociopath.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Are you saying the Gallup Poll I provided is different from your Gallup poll when covering the same time frame? Yes or no?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Which part of “2010” can’t you understand? I apologize for not realizing you could not figure out what came between “2009” and “2011” on the graph, Tiny Sociopath..

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So does your Gallup poll have different stats for the same years mine covers or not? Come on, big boy, take a stand.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Still can’t read, eh, Hanni Boo Boo? Figures.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            No, it does not. My Gallup poll is the same stats Gallup uses for that time period after the end of each year. You just don’t understand the PDF I provided.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I understand that you could not or did not link that pdf to any known Gallup poll. Epic fail, Dweebitized.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It’s the same data that’s on your Gallup poll. Are you saying the Gallup poll info I provided is different than yours for those same years? Are you seriously clinging to your conspiracy?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            First of all, let me withdraw my congratulations on your ability to count as high as three. On the graph you posted, there were two different polls listed. Obviously, you still cannot count as high as “2”. (Someone must have counted those links for you, eh, Tiny Sociopath?)

            The data depicted on the graph differed from the numbers of the poll I linked to. Newsflash: Gallup has taken more than one poll over the years. If you would link to the sources from which that graph was made, we could tell if the graph is merely inaccurate or taken from a different poll.

            Again, I apologize for treating you as an adult, when you have clearly not acted as one.

            Your gratuitous use of the word “conspiracy” is duly noted. Pointing out your stupidity and dishonesty is hardly a “conspiracy”, Tiny Poputchik. It’s a given.

          • Guest

            “If you think that makes for a (sic) equivalency in the quality of the links, then you are just the mind numbed, juvenile half wit we’ve always taken you for.”

            Leave it to Goof to censure another for something he did in his very own post. To top it off, he included a basic mistake of English grammar, which he loves to (attempt) furious masturbation with whilst assembling yet another pathetic “Babe” post on is inspid blog.

            What a Goof!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            You caught me in a typo! How proud you must feel! Oh frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

            Speaking of typos, oh typo Queen: “…on is (sic) inspid (sic) blog”.

            First remove the beam from your own eye, Gusty. The fact that you have a hard on for my blog (and me) is self evident. The use of the word “pathetic” in your projection is duly noted.

          • Guest

            Since Goof apparently doesn’t remember (it is a common affliction among the senile), it’s my poliy to purposefully put misspellings in my replies to annoy Goof and communicate my complete lack of respect for him.

            What a Goof!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I’ve never hear ignorance referred to as a “policy” before, but, whatever floats your boat, Gusty!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Stop clinging to your conspiracy, POOF. Here’s another article, from Washington Post showing the same graphs, and also the Gallup, which shows gun ownership declining overall from 1994. And that’s before we look at figures from the 70s. You just can’t admit you are wrong:

            Even as Americans have become more and more opposed to new gun control measures in recent years, the actual number of households owning guns has declined.

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/12/19/a-gun-ownership-renaissance/

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “Conspiracy”?

            You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means.

            I’m not talking about any kind of conspiracy. I’m just asking you to grow a pair of balls and link to the data behind a graph you posted.

      • slackwarerobert

        And lets not forget, brady was injured BECAUSE of gun laws. If hinkley was allowed to purchased explosive bullets to shoot at trees, he wouldn’t have had to make his own that malfunctioned injuring brady.

        • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

          I have no idea what you’re getting at there.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Machine gun or semi auto-matic, the principle is the same. You’re just too dishonest and too dimwitted to know the difference, or admit it if you had the intellect to figure it out for yourself.

        And spare us your dimwitted rationalization by factoring in Alzheimer’s. Alzheimer’s doesn’t make your political beliefs different, not that his statements are any different than the gun control laws he enacted as president.

        • two_amber_lamps

          Please elaborate on how the “principle” of semi-automatic fire (ie 1 pull of the trigger equals one round down range) is the same as that of auto-fire (1 pull of the trigger equals an entire magazine down range unless the trigger is released prior to the magazine being emptied).

          Is this from your same argument that “clips” and “magazines” are the same thing?

          You stupid jerkoff…. You’re too young to have Alzheimer’s so we’ll just assume you’re just a debased imbecile.

        • guest

          When will you be surrendering your semi automatic weapons with their high capacity magazines, hypocrite?

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          “Machine gun or semi auto-matic (sic), the principle is the same”

          Yeah. So is a tricycle and a Ferrari, if the principle is ‘things that have wheels’. Do you even see the irony in you calling anyone else “dimwitted”?

          Please stop pretending you know anything at all about firearms and toddle back to the kiddie pool, where you can be its unchallenged little kahuna.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I have proven you a fraud, in terms of being educated about firearms, long ago. Quit pretending, kid.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Your delusions of adequacy are duly noted, Tiny Kahuna.

    • SusanBeehler

      Amen

      • two_amber_lamps

        Praying to the Gods of totalitarianism Mr. SuzyBrainwashed?

        • $8194357

          Its what the indoctrinated do..
          All hail the mighty state and its agendas….

      • guest

        And the susan the twat chimes in and sides with the anti American worshiper of Islam.

    • $16179444

      suddenly what RR had to say is relevant to you…..all other times you berate him. you’re a hack.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        I’m still berating him, you idiot. I’m using his words to prove you a bunch of political hack hypocrites. Reagan didn’t even have the benefit of spree killings to factor into his comments. He’s more of straight up gun control advocate than Obama is. You idiot.

  • slackwarerobert

    Shame the reporters are just as ignorant about guns. The follow up question should be then you are OK with AR and AK pistols? Is it the rifle stock that makes them evil in your eyes?
    And mr halfrican you do understand that most states BAN hunting with an assault weapon, we don’t hunt with them because it would be a crime. But you can’t help but bring home food when you do use one.

    • SusanBeehler

      No it is a person like you holding it that makes it “evil”.

      • slackwarerobert

        Not “evil” EFFECTIVE! and I do have a pistol that is used to hunt bears, I bought it to protect myself from hillery who supports hunting, I joke at work it is so I can shoot the atf agent at the back of the line of them coming through my door. makes a desert eagle look like a 22 plinker. obama would mess his shorts if he was in the same city as it. Is obama against osha? I wonder when they will go after the suppressors, can’t have us protecting our hearing, why we wouldn’t need his obamacare.

    • Hellboy

      Sure, most of the uninformed would ban a rifle based on looks…….. color, fore end stock, picatinny rails and etc.. They would see an ordinary ranch rifle or mini-14 which was originally marketed as a “varmit rifle” as innocent looking…… and when you install an aftermarket black archangel stock with the aforementioned accessories, they all scream and run away like their hair is on fire…. same gun, different look. Now it becomes an “assault” rifle in their minds. To those, perception is reality….. it isn’t the gun, it’s the person behind it, folks. If they want registration, start with cataloging those applicants who have been denied permission to purchase a gun, which, the system has not recorded…… that would be a good first step in recognizing the felons and mentally challenged… The Governement as usually, has failed miserably.

  • $8194357

    The agenda is to have a citizenry less capable of defending themsleves…
    always has and always will as history proves tyrants never quit….

    • slackwarerobert

      History also shows, they only leave at gunpoint.

  • SigFan

    He doesn’t think we should ban handguns … yet. Gotta get the big guns first, then they’ll go after the small ones.

    • slackwarerobert

      Didn’t he just say on his last debate he wasn’t taking our guns?

  • two_amber_lamps

    Cognitive dissonance is the hallmark of the Bamster administration…

    “We support Israel” while undermining their relationship with Israel and supplying weapons to their enemies.

    “We support the middle class” while raising their tax rates and telling them their energy costs will necessarily skyrocket.

    “We will lower the cost of healthcare” while adding millions to the dole and categorically increasing costs thru Obama-care.

    “We will protect the citizens from guns” while abrogating the citizens’ rights to defend themselves.

    Reminds me of the Communists, would tell you down is up, the sky is green, the grass is blue.

    Lies… all lies.

  • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

    “Obama does believe that gun control is crime control.” No, he doesn’t, unless the guns are in government hands. It’s people control he’s after.

    One of his major constituencies consists of criminals with handguns, not so much those with “assault rifles.”

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      How’z life in El Salvador?

      • mickey_moussaoui

        that’s where obama is heading us. you will find out soon enough

        • $8194357

          10X

      • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

        You seem to have a very poor memory.

        • $8194357

          Selective memory…
          A liberal trait, IMO.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          I forget which 3rd world country you call home.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Obamaland

      • two_amber_lamps

        Can’t be much worse than your life living in a cardboard box on a beach in HI… guess what surf-tard… that doesn’t qualify as “beachfront property” like you keep telling your mom.

        Who are we kidding, you still live in her basement.

      • $8194357

        About the same as whats comming out of the banna republic in DC.

      • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

        Dunno. Not there. Never been there. Have no plans to go there. Try Google.

  • $16179444

    “It’s all about the children!” – meanwhile they reach deep into their pockets and support abortion.

    • mickey_moussaoui

      The Democrats plan of genocide of blacks is in full swing. They successfully kill more black babies via abortion than are born and very craftily convince blacks that they are the political party that best supports their needs.

      Satan is a tricky bastard isn’t he? He has an entire political party doing his work and they are thanking him, begging for more.

      …and obama fiddles…

      the Nero Caesar of our time

  • mickey_moussaoui

    leave it to a lib to continue relating the second amendment to hunting.
    meanwhile the government purchased $1.6 billion dollars in ammo over the past 12 months.

    • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

      The ammo is for government hunting. Open season. No bag limit. No restrictions on age or sex.

      • $8194357

        Yikes….
        maybe 2 tru 4 skool

        • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

          I’m very open to alternative explanations.

          • $8194357

            History repeating itself to a knew generation of
            know it all know nothings, IMO.
            The ‘new nazis’ may use micro wave ovens?

          • slackwarerobert

            It’s green ammo. I know I have 15K 5.56 nato green tips myself. Has anyone found out where it is being stored yet? Need to update my SHTF raid list, if there is a nice single cash for bullets, it would be worth the extra travel.

  • WOOF
    • two_amber_lamps

      Oh boy! You’re on to something there YIP… ‘cept in your shortcomings on the subject you neglected to mention some things.

      The cyclic rate of a bumpfired rifle (even with a modified 100% LEGAL stock) is about half that of an actual full-auto rifle.

      I don’t suppose you noticed that those amateurs were firing from the hip… ever shoot a rifle before? How about when not utilizing the sights? It’s wildly inaccurate.

      Any professional who’s handled weapons (or had to carry one in the field) knows ammunition can weigh as much as the weapon system (or more depending on the load-out). Gratuitous rates of fire certainly terrify leftist sheeple like yourself but see earlier statement regarding accuracy. A two to three round aimed burst is infinitely more accurate a firing method, and much less wasteful than spray-and-pray hosing from the hip, or from the shoulder for that matter.

      Assault Rifles for Dummies 101, class dismissed YIP. Carry on with your ignorance.

  • $8194357

    Barrys agendas are the UN elitist olagarchys agendas to the
    dotted i and crossed t..

    Ben Swann Full Disclosure conducts a one on one interview with Dr. Jim Garrow who claims the Obama administration is weeding out top military brass who are unwilling to fire upon Americans. Ben talks with Dr. Garrow and asks viewers questions.

    Garrow indicates that his source referenced an officer who was called into a private meeting and given a litmus test of whether or not he would be able to fire on Americans. Upon, his answer that he would not do so, he was, in Garrow’s words “forced to resign on the spot.” Specifically, Garrow indicates that a scenario was with gun confiscation.

    While the source is not cited and many people understand keeping sources under wraps, couldn’t anyone make this claim? Garrow says that he has known this source for seventeen years. He says that his source is a name that most people in America would know.

    Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/is-the-obama-administration-weeding-out-military-brass-that-will-not-fire-on-american-citizens/#ixzz2LDAbR4a3

    Garrow simply referred to what I can only assume if the Feinstein bill, and, in my opinion, didn’t represent it fairly, as he said it included “any gun with a handle.” That’s not exactly what the bill talks about. However, the point is taken and that is that there is no doubt that if the Obama administration thinks it can, it will go after guns.
    He was also asked if there was evidence that could be provided to give merit to his claims so that his claim could not be “washed away” in a conspiracy theory, even if it is true. He did say that some people question whether he even knew anyone at high levels and he went on to state the people he did know and “sat across the table from” in high levels (ie. Alexander Haig, William Bennet, Bill Simon and others were mentioned).

    Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/is-the-obama-administration-weeding-out-military-brass-that-will-not-fire-on-american-citizens/#ixzz2LD8g4xSV

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