amiryzan. Only after the Prince of Peace returns. Until then, evil is in the world and evil people will do evil deeds upon good people.

LoadTheMule. Good post. I have one here with translations from British English to American English here.
Rob from those who work and worked for a living to give to those who refuse to work.

I was a business philosophy double major. I specialized in economics, which means I put myself through multiple high level economic courses for no reason.

robert108. I agree to an extent, but even the evil Soviet Union did not manipulate 100%. Some swam to Andau. Some hid and made small trinkets and others that Lenin admitted were allowed to cultivate 1% of their farms for personal use.

DBdowner. There is some small place for government control, but not intervention. They should control union coercion when it gets into murder, physical threats and intimidation of children.

The manipulation by the railroads when there used free federal land may have been misused also.

Many utility companies fit this example. If other companies cannot enter the market and make a profit, they will not form. Zero competition is not a good thing. The company can engage in price setting and set the supply lower than the total demand in order to net higher earnings. Making the consumer work harder for less is never good. Competition keeps companies meeting needs of the customers. And this keeps the flow and growth of wealth pumping. Greed is a destructive factor when self-advancement becomes tautological. In fact our whole economic crisis at the moment was caused by tautological value.

If you have ever been wronged by a party, the government laying the smack down on the offending is a welcome display of justice. Losing is not a form of being wronged. Failing is not something unnacceptable.

This is where the government not only ceases to stop corruption but becomes corruption itself. When it says that a company is not allowed to lose, it is not playing the part of a ref it is playing the part of God, the consumer, and the company itself. Without failure, there is no rational ground to walk on.

“You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool — you bet that Tommy sees!”

Rudyard Kipling
Barracks Room Ballads – Tommy

‘Nuff said.

DBdowner. Thanks for the opportunity to exchange adult conversation. Something sadly lacking in this age. I agree with what you posted here. Not defending the man in totality, but just pointing out that even some evil people have a few good things. Like the “well, he built good roads!”

Liberals that constantly embrace logical contradiction and do so with passion are flying of the wings of absurd faith. This explains their demonic outbursts and eagerness to turn to murder, oppression, and other vices they claim to hate.

Another quote from Russell: “one of life’s disappointments — not getting your life’s goal, and getting it!” Interesting viewpoint I did use while teaching–to see both sides of a goal.

DBdowner. At least he stood up the the “peace-nicks” of the 1950′s when they did not condemn the Soviet Union’s invasion of Hungary. I will give him that. Did you ever hear that one?

Yes indeed. BellSouth for example. A government granted monopoly back in the 1930 in exchange for them not getting into the computer business! Our own city of Columbia granted SCE&G monopoly rights to electricity in exchange for bus service. Then the incompetent mayor let them off the hook for bus service so he could chase federal $. He failed. Bus riders pay only 25% of the actual cost of operating buses. They are generally about 10% occupied. Another wasteful federal government monopoly!

Chief: Long-standing monopolies, like public utilities, for example, are always a result of govt picking a winner.

I tend to value micro more because it relates directly to persons and businesses. Since they are the foundation of economics, knowledge gained in this area is much more useful. This being said, my main area of interest is both a macro and micro concern. Incentives and their various effects are my main area of interest.

Price/value distortion, shadow pricing, devaluation of human capital on the macro level. Loss of purpose and direction on the micro level. What happened in the Soviet Union as a result of communism was more than just a disruption and confusion of supply and demand. The value and functionality of its human capital was severely damaged. The shock waves of price/value distortion literally tore up their markets and their minds for generations. When people begin to forsake their ability to reason and create, gaining it back is not such an easy prospect.

Thanks for the tip, 2Hotel9. I found an interesting quote from MM:

Bertrand Russell explained while scoffing at the idea that he would give his money to charity: “I’m afraid you’ve got it wrong. (We) are socialists. We don’t pretend to be Christians.”

Liberals like BHO give about 5% to charity while our last real CINC gave 10% and his VP about 77%.

Bertrand Russell had enough of a grasp on logic to know that he needed to be logically consistent. This, however, didn’t free him from his wasteland of a mind viewing entities as phantoms and reality as lifeless pieces of matter. He didn’t share the taste for fancy that Whitehead enjoyed. Russell’s soul was dead. Good for him too, the demonic frenzy most peace/tyrant lovers are gripped by could not move him beyond the rationality of his purpose and into an absurdity of faith. Liberals that constantly embrace logical contradiction and do so with passion are flying of the wings of absurd faith. This explains their demonic outbursts and eagerness to turn to murder, oppression, and other vices they claim to hate.

Took a while, but DB, here is a reply. Utilities are not a natural monopoly. Right here there are two who overlap their coverage. Some put lines above, some underground. There are even some people who use generators.

The only reason that some seem to have a ‘natural monopoly’ is because a government has granted them that, by law as robert108 stated above.

Let the laws of supply and demand run their courses.

Wow, what a scary impressive of how Obama is being portrayed. How deceitful can you get?

Chief: Only Marxists depend on perfection to justify their ideology; conservatives know that humans are imperfect.

So now you welcome RINO’s with open arms?

Well you did vote for one so at least on this point you are not inconsistent.

DBdowner. I have heard that argument. Would you like to propose an example?

DBdowner. Excellent contrast/comparison. Sounds like you have had at least some undergraduate economics courses. Have you?

I hope we can end all wars and live in peace

Being a demand based system, our economy is founded at the micro level; command economies, which tend to be stagnant, are founded at the macro level. A command economy is simply not responsive or efficient enough to compete with a demand economy on a level playing field.

There is another way, but to force pay is kind of againt the law. We have been working on a concept for 6 months now and a lot, I mean a lot of people like it. It is called a United Health Care Concept that states that it is offered to the people to build and not to put faith in us ,but to put faith into yourself, of how to prtect it.
This force pay against men and women who fought and died is a disgrace before God and mankind. I feel that all have the right to pay but not by the threat of going to jail.
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and you will see that their are those of us who are geting ready for The People vs. Obama. round 2 out of 15 rounds.
Henry Massingale

How ironic after the left treated our soldiers like wounded retarded children throughout the last couple decades. Smart enough only to be told what to do. Being used appropriately when Clinton tossed them this way and that on a whim (Black Hawk Down) but misled by evil entities when it was a Republican prez. Encouraged to desert by the left. Told that being shot at, wounded, and killed is too high a price for any soldier when that classically has been part and parcel of being a soldier. Coddled like victims of abusers when they neither needed or asked for it.

Now they want to give them the finger.

Even Carter wasn’t this much of an idiot.