Obama To Critics: I Won

Behold the new era of bi-partisanship.

President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning – but he also left no doubt about who’s in charge of these negotiations. “I won,” Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation.
The exchange arose as top House and Senate Republicans expressed concern to the president about the amount of spending in the package. They also raised red flags about a refundable tax credit that returns money to those who don’t pay income taxes, the sources said.

I certainly don’t begrudge Obama his attitude. He did win, and so did a lot of his Democrat colleagues, and so they’ve got a wide open field in which to advance their agenda.
But Obama is the guy who is calling for unity and bipartisanship, and he’s going to have to learn that if you want to work with the other side you can’t just dismiss their grievances with blunt statements like “I won.”
Unless Obama thinks that bipartisanship means all the other people come over to your side and work on advancing your agenda. Which he probably does.
Personally, I’d just as soon see liberals and conservatives working together as little as possible. When the two ideological sides in Washington start working together that usually means the taxpayer is getting screwed even worse than usual. And besides, the point of conservatism is to limit government. Compromises with liberals tend to only slow the growth of government.
I’d just as soon let the liberals be in charge of trying to grow the government and not give them any help at all.

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  • docdave

    then when it’s a flop, when inflation returns, when the Homeland is attacked, when unemployment goes up not down, when th markets tank further…then let the Dems crow how THEY WON

    Unfortunately being dishonest as they are, the Dems will find a way to blame it all on the Repubs, i.e. the programs failed because the Repubs didn’t support them; and the ignorant masses will buy it.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    The republicans are lucky to be roaming freely after what they did to this country.

    If I was Obama I’d start building them re-education camps, not having meetings with them.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    He didn't win by that much; the country is still 50/50. He has no mandate for anything.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    He is a power mad, extreme left wing Liberal. That is the Hope and Change our country voted for. Most people who voted for him didn't have a clue as to what he was about.

  • ellinas

    But Obama is the guy who is calling for unity and bipartisanship, and he's going to have to learn that if you want to work with the other side you can't just dismiss their grievances with blunt statements like "I won."

    By Rob on January 23, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    Nothing wrong with the victor calling on defeated opponents to join him, and in a bipartisan way advance his agenda.

  • thetodd

    Kevin:

    He didn't win by that much; the country is still 50/50. He has no mandate for anything.

    I would be $1,000,000,000.00 that you did not say that in November 2004.

  • Onslaught

    Nothing wrong with the victor calling on defeated opponents to join him, and in a bipartisan way advance his agenda

    And as we have learned from the example of the past 8 years there is absolutely nothing wrong with telling the victor to F' Off! after all dissent = Patriotism. Right?

  • Hungry Bear

    Obama:

    The winner takes it all
    The loser's standing small
    Beside the victory, that's her destiny

    The winner takes it all
    The winner takes it all

    So the winner takes it all
    And the the loser has to fall
    Throw a dice, cold as ice
    Way down here, someone dear
    Takes it all, has to fall….

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Nothing wrong with the victor calling on defeated opponents to join him, and in a bipartisan way advance his agenda.

    The liberal definition of bipartisanship: submission.

    No thanks.

  • Hannitized

    I especially liked this part of the story….

    according to sources familiar with the conversation.

    "I won", with no context, no more data than third hand experience.

    This is speculative and trashy.

    You would throw a fit if we did this to Bush.

  • docdave

    Yep, I'm sure that Obama has the best interests of our nation in mind when he says 'I won'. /sarc

  • pparets

    Hannitized plays the aggrieved saint…

    You would throw a fit if we did this to Bush.

    Hello, Hanni! You DID do this to Bush, again and again.

    But, on another subject, how racist is Robert Reich in urging that bail-out money not be used to hire WHITE contsruction workers, during his testimony yesterday?

    I know we're gonna love your defense of this one!

  • Kramer

    VOTER FRAUD!!! Plain and simple, that's how the smcuk won

  • http://reasonsnottovoteformccain.blogspot.com/ Morr

    President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning

    Obama actually met and listened to the Republicans, which is more than I can say for our last President.

    In the words of John McCain, "Elections have consequences."

  • pparets

    Yes, we are lucky, since democrats have no idea what freedom is. So, Dino, kiss a GOP next time you see one.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    The GOP can kiss my ass.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Bush didn't have a mandate in 2000 and he, along with the fascist republicans in Congress, did whatever they wanted.

    Roll over them Obama. Take no prisoners.

  • http://www.sayanythingblog.com/ electnixon

    Personally, I'd just as soon see liberals and conservatives working together as little as possible.

    I feel the same way.

  • pparets

    The GOP can kiss my ass.

    Nah. We're not into sloppy 3,000nds…

    … or the std's, since homosexual males are responsible for 65% of the syphillis in the United States.

  • Onslaught

    Obama actually met and listened to the Republicans, which is more than I can say for our last President.

    Naturally, that is more than you can say forthe last President.
    Because you are as Mind-numbingly stupid and Mind-numbingly dishonest as Hannitized ever dreamed of being.

    Bush/Kennedy

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Obama actually met and listened to the Republicans, which is more than I can say for our last President.

    Oh please. One of Bush's first acts was to have Kennedy write his NCLB bill. Bush was hugely bipartisan. And you're full of it.

    The GOP can kiss my ass.

    You're all ass.

  • ellinas

    And as we have learned from the example of the past 8 years there is absolutely nothing wrong with telling the victor to F' Off! after all dissent = Patriotism. Right?

    Onslaught on January 23, 2009 at 01:56 pm

    You guys do it to is a lame excuse. You cons and neocns have told us time and again that, you do it to, not an excuse.

  • carrick

    H:

    "I won", with no context, no more data than third hand experience.

    This is speculative and trashy.

    You would throw a fit if we did this to Bush.

    What's with the vitriol?

    Obama did win. He gets to call the shots, he's the "Decider" now.

    Why anybody expected anything different is beyond me.

  • carrick

    Morr:

    Obama actually met and listened to the Republicans, which is more than I can say for our last President.

    That's a completely false statement. Bush frequently reached across party lines, there were many on the conservative side who were uncomfortable with his policies on immigration, medicaid and education, to name just a few.

    You liberals live in a myth.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    BHannitized, meet reality:

    In the more than six years since, Mr. Bush has turned to Mr. Kennedy, the longtime Massachusetts senator who is his most ardent liberal Democratic critic, time and again to push the biggest items on his domestic agenda: education, prescription drugs and the immigration bill that failed last week.

    It's so much easier to just be honest, Hannitized. You should try it some time.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    If we're going to get this leftist crap it's better that Democrats get to stand up on the stage and take the blame.

    The worst thing to do is do it in a bipartisan way.

    At this point the public isn't going to blame the Republicans for blocking another trillion dollar money wasting stimulus bill. That probably wasn't the case in October.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus Last Best Hope

    dead on Whistler…let the Dems do this thing along stict party lines…let the GOP vote against it all every step of the way

    then when it's a flop, when inflation returns, when the Homeland is attacked, when unemployment goes up not down, when th markets tank further…then let the Dems crow how THEY WON

    the worm will turn on socialist policies…history has a very clear record of socialism and it ALWAYS fails to deliever the pie in ther sky BS it promises

    free enterprise may have a headache at present but headaches don't last forever. The profit motive is still what inspires Americans…not govt. handouts.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    The worst thing to do is do it in a bipartisan way.

    I heard a report on the radio about Obama not "having the Republican support he'd hoped for" on some bill, and I was thinking: With majorities in both sides of Congress, the only reason to look for "bipartisan support" is so you can spread the blame of an angry public to the other party!

  • jimmypop

    if only bush had been so bold and actually been conservative…..

  • isit2012yet?

    He won – whoop de freckin do….

    So did Bush and they are still whining…

    here's a thought for the Dems

    If Bush had no mandate with 51% of the vote
    then they think BHO has one with 52% of the vote because…WHY???

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    then when it's a flop, when inflation returns, when the Homeland is attacked, when unemployment goes up not down, when th markets tank further…then let the Dems crow how THEY WON

    Sorry Charlie. This mess has "PROPERTY OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY" written all over it. Dems won't have to blame the republicans as things get worse. The people already do. Are were you asleep for the last 2 elections?

    We turned a corner. Republicans are down for the count. Time to unplug the machine and let that party DIE.

  • pparets

    Let's hope none of those predictions come to pass on President Obama's, or anyone else's, watch!

    No good is served by hoping that tragedy strikes under a democrat administration… other than to put one's partisan hopes ahead of the Nation's survival.

    I am less concerned about WHO is in charge than I am about HOW they govern.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    other than to put one's partisan hopes ahead of the Nation's survival.

    Oh c'mon. Conservatives are the type of people who would just as soon destroy the country than lose control of it. I mean, they destroyed it when they DID control it.

    The idea of another 9/11 gives them wood.

  • pparets

    What prompted you to parse my statement, Dino?

    No good is served by hoping that tragedy strikes under a democrat administration… other than to put one's partisan hopes ahead of the Nation's survival.

    Your fundamental dishonesty?
    Your ongoing rage?
    Your effort to paint every dialogue as you want to see it?
    Your insecurity?

  • JK

    No, seriously, I HATE this country and think it should disappear. No more united states. It's the cause of most of the world's problems. It's like a cancer.

    Just split it up and let it lose its power. Done. Finished.

    DINO on January 13, 2009]

    AGAIN DINO CONTRADICTS HIMSELF.

    Oh c'mon. Conservatives are the type of people who would just as soon destroy the country than lose control of it. I mean, they destroyed it when they DID control it.

  • jimmypop

    If we're going to get this leftist crap it's better that Democrats get to stand up on the stage and take the blame.

    The worst thing to do is do it in a bipartisan way.

    the problem; republicans are stupid and weak. some like jon Mac will cave in and go along to look like 'good sports'. god, i hate these people as much if not more than the liberals.

  • Dino

    …….blah blah blah the conservative failed like they always do so he wasn't a "real" conservative yada yada yada……..

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    "Liberals" are piss-poor losers and they're even worse when they win.

    They have no class.

  • Dino

    Kinda rings hollow coming from a member of a political party of pussies who resorted to blackmailing a guy over his private sex life when they couldn't beat him at the ballot box.

  • Lioncourt

    You know what, he is right?

    Did you expect him to govern as a conservative in the name of bi-partisanship?

    You guys lost. You get to sit on the bench for eight years.

  • Wheelin

    Spot on, Best Hope! My greatest fears of Obama winning the election are already bearing that very fruit. An inaugural prayer service by a promoter of Islamic terrorism against the U.S., while most Americans don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about.

    An election hijacked by high-rollers, selective media coverage of the campaign, hijacking the judicial system that allowed illegal votes, numerous donations (millions) from same people and foreign countries that sponsor terrorism, Obama's linksto radicals that he 'didn't know were radicals', etc. He will welcme these terrorists into our country, our gov., and we will endure exactly what Lebanon endured in the late '80's. Helo Sharia; goodbye America.

    Goodbye to Gitmo and torture of terrorists. Hello to killing inncent babies with our tax dollars; goodbye personal responsibility. Hello handouts; goodbye to hardworkers who saved for retirement. The gov will provide handouts now; why work.

    Help bail out Pelosi's state since her far left can't manage their self-inflicted issues and muti-billion dollar deficit.

    Obama? The only thing I do like about his appointment is that he is, at least partially, black and perhaps that can heal racial divides that are despicable–if he does something positive to unite this nation. Oterwise, I have no use for a great public speaker who tells me what I already know. I'd better see him stand up for this free tinker's values and ethics, and the GOP had better stand with me!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    BUSH: …I feel it is necessary to move an agenda that I told the American people I would move.

    There is something refreshing about coming off an election — even more refreshing since we all got some sleep last night — but you go out and you make your case, and you tell the people this is what I intend to do.

    And after hundreds of speeches and three debates and interviews and the whole process, where you keep basically saying the same thing over and over again, when you win there is a feeling that people have spoken and embraced your point of view.

    And that's what I intend to tell the Congress, that I made it clear what I intend to do as the president and the people made it clear what they wanted, now let's work together.

    And it's like earning capital. You asked do I feel free. Let me put it to you this way: I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it.

    It is my style. That's what happened after the 2000 election, I earned some capital…

    bush
    November 4, 2004

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Lioncourt – You guys lost. You get to sit on the bench for eight years.

    So what you're telling us is that the "bipartisanship" and "unity" claims were all lies.

    Thanks for the admittance.

  • Hannitized

    It's so much easier to just be honest, Hannitized. You should try it some time

    I never claimed Bush did otherwise, you confused me with Dino you dumb shit.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    No, the republicans are free to unify with the agenda set forth by the WINNERS just like the dems were forced by default to follow the conservative agenda that took us down the path of economic ruin.

    See how that works?

    Republicans are such arrogant turds that they think Obama is going to turn into a republican to please them. They think they did such a great job during the decades they controlled the agenda that we should keep following it.

    THEY'RE WRONG. They f*cked up and f*cked up BAD. They have NO credibility. Too bad they only discover bipartisanship when we slap them down like we do every generation or so. Now they need to STFU and go sit in the corner with their nice coloring books and not speak until spoken to.

    The only thing I wish we could do further is keep any of the help from going to people who ever voted republican. But as we all know, the republicans are always the first in line for the perks they hate to fund.

  • Hannitized

    Hello, Hanni! You DID do this to Bush, again and again

    I never harassed Bush for things he supposedly said, you dope. I challenge you to find an argument that accused Bush of saying things someone heard third hand.

    But, on another subject, how racist is Robert Reich in urging that bail-out money not be used to hire WHITE contsruction workers, during his testimony yesterday?

    I think the only quote that i have seen was clipped. It was also disturbing. That is nonsense and Obama should condemn it, if the edited clip portrays the spirit of Robert's message.

    Unlike most, I have principles my friend.

  • Hannitized

    No, the republicans are free to unify with the agenda set forth by the WINNERS just like the dems were forced by default to follow the conservative agenda that took us down the path of economic ruin.

    Exactly. As it should be, but Obama does claim unity, and a good signal of unity to try and find compromise wherever possible. But, he is not going to compromise all the time and you must accept that.

    Some compromise is better than none, which is how we were treated by the Conservatives.

  • http://www.poorschmuck.net/ John D

    The story goes on to say that the Republicans have to change in order to get along with him and the Democrats.

    Sounds like "My Way Or The Highway" to me.

    Wasn't someone complaining that Bush took that attitude?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Wow. The "liberals" sure do a lot of ugly projecting.

  • Hannitized

    Thank a liberal for not being a conservative.

    If it weren't for us, you would have nobody to hate and make false, whacked-out projections about Liqwid.

  • pparets

    Hannitized responds to Robert Reich's suggestion that bail-out money not go to white construction workers…

    It was also disturbing. That is nonsense and Obama should condemn it, if the edited clip portrays the spirit of Robert's message.

    While President Obama need not condemn it – Reich was speaking as a private citizen – I agree with Hannitized on this one.

    BTW, I did hear the whole of Reich's testimony and he actually expanded on this comment, listing the groups of workers who should be funded – native and African Americans, Hispanics, women – and reaffirmed his belief that it should not include skilled white workers.

  • http://Array jk

    No, seriously, I HATE this country and think it should disappear. No more united states. It's the cause of most of the world's problems. It's like a cancer.

    Just split it up and let it lose its power. Done. Finished.

    DINO on January 13, 2009]

  • carrick

    And Hannitized appears to agree with him.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Add conservatism to the top of that list of cancers.

  • Onslaught

    You guys do it to is a lame excuse. You cons and neocns have told us time and again that, you do it to, not an excuse

    I always get a laugh out of liberals when they try to use reason, they are absolutely no good at it.
    Here we have been subjected to 8 solid years of their never ending bullshit and now that they are the ones with the target painted on their big stupid slack jawed faces they want to cry foul and demand civility from their opponents.

    Well E, to be perfectly honest I'm just not in the mood to be reasonable.
    And if that doesn't get the point across to you in an easily understandable way, try this on for size.

    FUCK YOU!

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