Sparkie,

Freeloading off the productive members of society is a far more than just “disagree[ing] with Rob”. Surely you can do better than that.

My Dad carries a mortgage on a house he built many years ago. Last week he called the homeowner to remind her that her payment was overdue. The woman said “the government said we didn’t have to pay our mortgages anymore!”

She was serious!

maybe we should have some sort of an aptitude test for voting.

That is an interesting idea. But, I know a lot of net tax-payers, who have worked hard, sacrificed their time, sweat, and and tax money to become good citizens. And they expect no more of the government than to just leave them alone. Some of them might have a problem passing a government-sponsored aptitude test.

My thought is to give everyone at least one vote. That would be for people who are negative tax-payers. Then a multiplier is applied to every vote based on the tax contribution they make to this country.

If we take a majority of voters off the tax roles, it won’t be long before people simply vote themselves the largesse of this nation and a false prosperity that is doomed to failure. It’s happening now in Europe and it is coming to a town near you.

False prosperity, it’s called Socialism, it’s called Barrack Obama,it’s called the democrat party.

Well……I for one am most definitely against socialism, as it is truly defined, but I am also against hypocrisy, under informed decision making, and bad audio quality. (also cats in the house and the designated hitter rule, but that’s for another topic)…From where I’m sitting, armed with some pretty serious Bose headphones and JBL studio speakers at my disposal, it appears to my ears that the lady in question is saying “worry”. How you interpret what she means by “worry” is up to the individual voter, but people will believe what they want to believe……

My thought is to give everyone at least one vote. That would be for people who are negative tax-payers. Then a multiplier is applied to every vote based on the tax contribution they make to this country.

Why do you hate America?

“As the late Nobel laureate Elias Canetti observes in his great book, “Crowds and Power” (first published in 1960), the crowd is based on an illusion of equality: Its quest is for that moment when “distinctions are thrown off and all become equal.

It is for the sake of this blessed moment, when no one is greater or better than another, that people become a crowd.” These crowds, in the tens of thousands, who have been turning out for the Democratic standard-bearer in St. Louis and Denver and Portland, are a measure of American distress.

But the morning after the election, the disappointment will begin to settle upon the Obama crowd.

Defeat–by now unthinkable to the devotees–will bring heartbreak.

Victory will steadily deliver the sobering verdict that our troubles won’t be solved by a leader’s magic.”

FOUAD AJAMI @ Wall Street Journal

This message is for Realitybasedbob – you are such an ignorant individual it is sad. I agree that the Republicans haven’t been perfect, but don’t try pulling that “the mess of the economy is Bush’s fault” nonsense. You know and I know that this was caused by the Democrats for the most part. Maybe the Republicans had a little to do with it, but VERY little. The Democratic party used to stand for the working man, but it has become a collection of snobbish, rich, out of touch elitist lawyers who don’t give a rat’s ass about Joe the Plumber or any other average guy or gal.
And if Obama gets elected, he is going to radically alter the face of this country – and NOT in a good way. So you Bush hating leftist libs – enjoy your American life while you can because you are not going to recognize it in 3-4 years. And your wives better start practicing to wear a burqa. Goodbye freedom and hello socialism/islamization.

I know just enough economics to know what I don’t know…my vote is twofold: My own personal savings in taxes when I did the math under McCains plan vs. Obama’s, and while I don’t profess to have enough knowledge or foresight to truly forecast the outcome, I do know from my own situation what the current leadership (which shares a pretty significant agreement with the voting record of McCain) has done to my savings and investments. I refuse to be scared off, diverted, or filled with imaginary or projected doomsday scenarios. I read both candidates positions, did the math, checked my gut, and made my decision.

Did you watch the video, and then have enough nerve to call people looking for a solution idiots?

It doesn’t need a solution. If you are a citizen you can vote. Any other policy is unamerican.

This is what we’re fast becoming. A nation who don’t long for freedom of opportunity but long for the opportunity for free goodies delivered to us by the government.

This started under the first Clinton term, we had people standing around waiting for a hand out.

It’s sad to think about the Obama supporters who have shown their ignorance again and again. I’m sure that’s why he targets them. They want to hear how he will save them from themselves and their own responsibilities. If he is elected, God forbid, their will be many of his fans that will be saying after about a year, “what was I thinking?”. If you read the last book of the Bible, Revelations, it describes a false prophet, of Muslim descent, in his 40′s, that will speak to the masses and promise them things he will not be able to follow through on. All I can say at this point is, God saves and protect us from the evil”.

Whatever happened to American self-reliance?

I don’t know, you will get no argument from me that it seems to be in short supply these days, I will most definitely agree with you there…I truly believe that there needs to be more self reliance, but after years of seeing the deck stacked against the average citizen, and a month of actually READING both candidates tax plans, I just have to say I know which man I’m backing next week…..

I am not for sale! I don’t want goodies from Big Sugar Daddy. I want a job, low prices on the goods that I buy, and my self-respect. Thank You very much.

BTW, I agree with the person who said that aptitude tests should make a comeback. An uninformed voter is a dangerous voter.

Here is my idea. A voter should receive training in the same way that drivers do. There should be a primer that goes with every voter registration briefing the potential voter on such must basic facts such as who is actually in control of Congress* etc etc.

Then these voters will have to take a quiz and pass before they can vote.

*I can’t remember the exact percentage of people who believe that Republicans currently control Congress but it was an alarming number.

The worst part is she might be RIGHT!

At our expense, of course…

How can anyone be this ignorant and selfish?? I swear, we need some sort of voter IQ test so people like this can’t vote. This is absolutely outrageous.

Please, I’m begging you, get out there and vote and make sure every sensible person you know votes. Drag them to the polls if necessary. The only way to stop the socialization of America is to overwhelm the polls with intelligent, informed voters. I pray America has more sense than this woman demonstrates.

should they vote?

Sparkie,

Your answer is to offer a hypothetical with an absurd and unprovable assumption as it premise (an intense number of GOP voters)?

Lets lay it out here. You misrepresented Rob’s argument by saying “If you disagree with Rob you shouldn’t vote”. Then you call him a “fascist” for your misrepresentation. You can do better than that.

The lady said: “I won’t have to WORRY about….” She did not say “work.”

“I won’t have to work at put’n gas in my car, I won’t have to work at pay’n my mortgage.”

We have to figure a way to get productive American citizens back in charge.

Anything promised as free, such as with Obama, will create an instant, unlimited demand. The supply will be exhausted faster than common sense at at an Obama political rally.

Are you ready for Obamanism and the trickle up poverty it will bring?

I know, I know. One person, one vote. But there are times when I hear people this ignorant when I think…maybe we should have some sort of an aptitude test for voting.

If you disagree with ROb, you shouldn’t vote.

Very fascist of you rob.

The existence of government infringes upon natural liberty in any form.

hg you anarchist you.

so the GWOt is unjust?

seems that negative freedom is nec. for positive freedom, to some extent… in ref. to ‘civil freedom’.

‘natural freedom’ means you can get effing eaten by the next guy. explain that one to me. how’s that free?

Started before that, Goon. LBJ’s Great Society? FDR’s New Deal?

If she’s not paying for her gas and mortgage, who is?

Those of us who are in Obama’s sights for a tax hike.

You misrepresented Rob’s argument by saying “If you disagree with Rob you shouldn’t vote”.

I misrepresented it only slightly. The call for the aptitude test emerged from a partisan point. Not everyone in this country shares Rob’s protestant work ethic. If you bust your ass your whole life, you only catch it in passing, on the way out. While I don’t agree with the idea that everyone in this country has a right to a car and a house to own, I also don’t agree with the false premise that any wealth redistribution is inherently anti-Freedom. That is a pure bullshit line. Its based on political theory that emerged as a strengthened version of Adam Smith, et al during the 40s-60s in response to the Russians. Do you think Hayek would have been so keen on his arguments if the Russians weren’t providing him with an antithesis to argue against? What we now see is an invoking of theory, by y’all, when its politically precipitous… and then we see, contrarily, appeals to pragmatics, reality… when the coin is turned, again used as is politically precipitous.

Settle down. Recognize that military spending, the GWOT, etc. require huge amounts of redistribution, indeed SOCIAL ENGINEERING is they are to be brought off. You just and up talking out two sides of your confused mouth. Freedom indeed! Let’s begin by defining that in a non-equivocating, self-politically precipitous manner. Until then its just pissing in the wind.

This nigger actually believed Obama would give her free stuff to, it’s okay dumb bitch just sit there like a good slave drinking your floruinated water and let us real conservatives win your freedoms back from the republdems, otherwiese, fuck that negro idiot