Obama Set To Double The National Debt Of Our Nation’s First 230 Years In Less Than 10 Years

He promised change, but I’m not sure this is what America had in mind:

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In news leaked late Friday to the Reuters news agency, the White House conceded that the national debt will increase by $9 trillion over the next ten years, nearly doubling a national debt that now stands at $11.67 trillion.
Until now, the White House had been estimating that the national debt would increase by $7.108 trillion between 2010 and 2019. On Friday evening, Reuters reported that an unnamed senior administration official was saying that a report due from the Office of Management and Budget on Tuesday would indicate that the debt would actually increase by $9 trillion during that period, almost $2 trillion more than the administration had previously estimated.
Since the beginning of the republic in the late 18th century, the U.S. government has accumulated a total of $11.67 trillion in debt. In the next decade, under the budget plans the Obama administration has in mind, that debt will almost double to about $20.67 trillion.
The administration is planning to run an average annual deficit of about $900 billion—or almost a trillion dollars—for each of the next ten years.
Until this year, according to historical budget tables published by the White House Office of Management and Budget, the largest annual budget deficit the U.S. government ever ran was in fiscal 2008, when the deficit was $458.5 billion.
The average deficits the Obama administration is now planning to run in each of the next ten years will now amost double that.

There are three ways out of this. The easiest would be for our politicians to just stop spending. But that’s not likely to happen.
The other solution is for the economy to start growing. But with these massive deficits driving inflation and discouraging investment, that’s not likely to happen either. Indeed, the reason why the Obama administration had to up its own deficit projections was because their rosy predictions for economic growth in the coming years were about as believable as fairy tales. Obama’s people projected 3% GDP growth starting in April to the end of this year, and then 4% GDP growth starting in 2010 through 2013. That 4% clip would be double the roughly 2% growth we saw between 2004 and 2008, a time of relative economic strength (even if it was built upon government-created bubbles in the credit markets).
Nobody could possibly take those predictions seriously any more, so Obama and his people revised them to be more in line with reality. And the deficit figures jumped accordingly.
The final solution would be to raise taxes, and I think that’s going to be the end game. We’re going to see massive tax hikes to pay for Obama’s “throw deficit spending at it” solution to everything, but will that really fix the problem? The big news of late (though some of us have been talking about it for some time now) is the possibility of a double-dip recession. One in which we see a brief amount of recovery only to see a drop back into negative economic growth. If we raise taxes on this already weak economy we will see a double-dip recession.
I think (and the CBO predicted the same back before the “stimulus” spending was passed) that if Obama and the rest of the federal government had just sat on their hands we’d be starting a climb toward recovery at the end of this year. But as things stand now, with seemingly exponential growth in our national deficits and little doubt about impending tax hikes, economic recovery is a distant hope. I think we’re on rails heading toward a Japanese-style “lost decade.”
On a related note, how pathetic is it that alternative to Obama and his Democrats and their record-setting deficit spending are the Republicans….who oversaw record-setting deficits of their own when they were in power? The choices right now seem to be the party that grows government slowly, and the party that grows government exponentially.
Makes me think we need new leaders all the way around.

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  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Its a whole lot worse. About half of our 11 Trillion dollar deficit is what we owe to ourselves. The Obama degicit is going to be much more weighted to debt owned by the public.

  • DINO

    But ALabama Greg says it’s mostly intergovernmental debt so it doesn’t matter.

    Then there’s the cost of Medicare which is a good chunk of the increasing debt. Isn’t it you people who don’t want to see Medicare reform? Do you want death panels? Rationing? I thought you people wanted to keep spending whatever it takes to keep Grandma’s near-corpse alive as long as possible? Do you now want to cut off her care and kill her?

  • Brent

    The “brief growth” you speak of is going to be “real” only in statistics that are easily manipulated by government spending and monetary inflation.

    We might as well face it. For the time being, our standard of living depends a great deal on whether foreign countries will continue to subsidize us by buying our government bonds and, most importantly, continuing to accept our dollars at present exchange ratios.

  • HG

    There is a SS budget issue and the best dino can propose is to kill a few seniors off. And the libs wonder in amazement when we call them on the death panels.

  • DINO

    Well HG, if you don’t want to control spending on big ticket items and you don’t want to pay for them in taxation, there’s really little else to do but watch the debt climb.

    Greg’s book learnin’ showed him how bush’s doubling of the debt was no big deal because it was intergovernmental debt.

    C’mon stems, tell us what you want done about this. You seem to have all the ideas. Tell us how much to cut Medicare. When do we put the old lady down?

  • HG

    Dino, control spending? That is a laugh. Obama just spent my grandchildren’s earnings on his stimulus and you have the ignorance to interpret this as controlling spending?

    You libs never cease to amaze. Your disdain for individual freedom is almost matched by your disdain for intellectual honesty.

  • Hannitized

    Your disdain for individual freedom is almost matched by your disdain for intellectual honesty.

    This from a guy who doesn’t attack Obama’s policies for what they are, but what he thinks they will be in the future.

    Yeah, tell me again about intellectual honesty HG. But wait until I finish drinking, I don’t want to spit it out through my nose and mouth after reading it.

  • Hannitized

    If the cons had an ounce of credibility, they would not have to make things up to complain about, instead they could offer a counter proposal and offer reasoned debate, but instead they enrage a bunch of kooks about full government take over of everything and the debate goes spiraling out of control.

    They won’t rest until we have another depression and everyone is as poor as they are.

  • bill-tb

    Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid.

    You begin to wonder, do libtards have brains?

  • HG

    This from a guy who doesn’t attack Obama’s policies for what they are, but what he thinks they will be in the future.

    Yeah, cause it isn’t like the libs started welfare and medicare allowing illegals to receive benefits, they added that later. So there is no evidence whatsover that libs are disquising their motives to provide healthcare to illegals even if they already removed it from one version of the bill.

    Now if you wan’t to talk about more intellectual dishonesty on the left consider again the demands that we ignore the entire context of how and by whom this healthcare bill came to exist and pretend that just because libs say the bill won’t cover illegals means it won’t ever cover illegals. Oh, and so what if the language of the bill leave the door wide open for such, or so what if liberals have already tried to redefine what is an illegal alien. Just believe what they say about healthcare and forget the past and present efforts of liberals that clearly reveal the intentions of liberals and their methods of achieving their desired ends.

  • HG

    If the left knew anything about credibility they wouldn’t have to disguise their actions in language which so obviously contradicts their policies.

  • robert108

    I had no idea that illegal immigrants are givin Medicare, Medicaid and welfare.

    Are you really that stupid, little H? Are you ignorant of stolen SS numbers by illegals, phony IDs and all the rest?
    I understand that you have no ideas about most subjects, but even one so ignorant as you would be unaware of the phony ID market for illegals.

  • Hannitized

    I had no idea that illegal immigrants are givin Medicare, Medicaid and welfare.

    Can you please point me to an article that supports your crazed claim? That would be a start.

    Then I can work on the impossible task of debating with you not on what the facts are, but your complete lack of trust on anyone with a D next to their name.

    If we thought like you, nothing would ever get done and our country would be a disaster. Ever wonder why we are having so many problems? Think maybe too many people think like you instead of being rational and reasonable?

    Sheeesh!

  • HG

    I had no idea that illegal immigrants are givin Medicare, Medicaid and welfare.

    I don’t doubt your ignorance for a minute H.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hduG9Dw0oYg

    Remember the amnesty bill? The one the libs are now advocating? Well get a load of this:
    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1509.cfm

    You libs couldn’t be more transparent.

  • DINO

    As far as rising HC costs go, tort reform, illegals, the state line argument are all red herrings. The culprit is Medicare where most HC spending occurs. And HC spending is the source of long-term deficits. If we could slow the rising costs of HC it would improve the financial picture greatly.

    But you people want to play politics and obstruct those trying to rein in spending. You find the political points much more advantageous than doing what’s right for the country.

    That’s because conservatives are destructive people who want to see the country decline.

    And you people talk about me.

  • HG

    But you people want to play politics and obstruct those trying to rein in spending.

    Reigning in spending?

    The dishonesty continues.

  • robert108

    But you people want to play politics…

    That’s all you leftiestems do, little stem!

  • HG

    AS far as healthcare costs go, free market solutions, the same free market that gave us the best healthcare in the world, is the only solution to us conservatives. Gov’t programs aren’t going broke because the free market has driven up costs, but because gov’t mandates have driven up costs and these programs have never in all of history been successful or solvent. They are built upon a socialist model that has failed every time it has been tried.

  • HG

    As far as rising HC costs go, tort reform, illegals, the state line argument are all red herrings.

    So what do you think suitepotato, denial or wilful ignorance?

  • robert108

    “The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

    Vladimir Lenin quotes (Russian Founder of the Russian Communist Party, leader of the Russian Revolution of 1917, 1870-1924)

    Increasing wasteful social spending and raising tax rates while creating new taxes; it’s the Marxist-Leninist way.

  • Hannitized

    HG said that Meciare and Medicaid paid illegal immigrants health care.

    When asked to provide evidence, he provided youtube clips that said nothing about Medicare and Medicaid or the liberals providing it to them.

    What he offered is a systemic failure in the US good will. The only way to prevent an illegal to obtain emergency services in the hospital is to kick them out of the ER.

    No hospital in the country would do that.

    He provided Lou Dobbs talking about them receiving food stamps, but that is just them cheating the system. This does not support his claim, one bit.

    And the info he provided does not put the blame directly on any Liberal policy or Liberal.

    He is ignorant of the facts and paranoid, as I have already proven.

  • HG

    Or, H is a wilfully ignorant punk intent on ignoring liberal policy. Conservatives have long tried to close the holes in liberal give-aways that account for illegals receiving these services only to be denied by the liberals themselves.

    The second link is proof of the intent of liberals to provide welfare and healthcare to illegals by simply granting them amnesty. This way they are no longer “illegal”.

    To think for a minute that liberals don’t want to confiscate American’s earnings to provide healthcare for illegals is obvious to anyone with their head not up their collective butt. (down dino, down boy)

  • Hannitized

    HG,

    Where the fuck is the evidence that Medicare and Medicaid is going to illegal immigrants?

    Quit lying and spinning your lies after you have been caught.

    Calling me a punk for catching you on your lies is below contemptible.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Post by Dino removed

    Ah beautiful.

  • HG

    Calling me a punk for catching you on your lies is below contemptible.

    Ah, poor H. Can’t read eh, boy? But then why no mention of welfare? Oh, because the link I provided backed up my claim. Nice of you to admit by your ommission.

  • HG

    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/8/3/141931.shtml

    It wasn’t until the summer of 2006 that republicans passed a bill that required proof of citizenship other than a written declaration (democrat language that allowed for illegals to get medicaid).

    Fast forward to today….

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/20/liberal-policies-benefit-illegals/

    You see, libs will alway say one thing while doing another when it comes to policies like healthcare, welfare, etc. We know your ways libs. You ain’t foolin anyone but Hannitized.

  • Hannitized

    Conservatives have long tried to close the holes in liberal give-aways that account for illegals receiving these services only to be denied by the liberals themselves.

    Like shutting down welfare????

    Is this something you want to boast about??? Jeezuz.

    The second link is proof of the intent of liberals to provide welfare and healthcare to illegals by simply granting them amnesty. This way they are no longer “illegal”.

    Oh, liberals like George Bush and John McCain?????

    Good god this guy has drank the Kool-Aid.

    You see this ellinas?? This is proof that all these guys have are platitudes that are not grounded in reality.

    This is what I have learned from HG, and his points:

    1. Liberals are bad, Conservatives are good.
    2. Bills say one thing, but HG knows they secretly mean another
    3. HG simply can’t trust Liberals because….well they are LIberals and Liberals are bad, and Republicans are good.

    That’s it!!

  • Hannitized

    Oh, because the link I provided backed up my claim. Nice of you to admit by your ommission.

    He provided Lou Dobbs talking about them receiving food stamps, but that is just them cheating the system. This does not support his claim, one bit.

    Welfare is not knowingly giving welfare to illegals. It’s against the law to do that.

  • Hannitized

    HG,

    Whereis the evidence that Medicare and Medicaid is going to illegal immigrants?

    Quit lying and spinning your lies after you have been caught.

  • HG

    Oh, liberals like George Bush and John McCain?????

    Or RINO’s as they are more appropriately called, whatever you want to call them they are definately not conservative.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52765

    H, admit it boy, you libs love to write laws which sound politically popular but have no teeth. What good is a law that democrats write which states no healthcare for undocumented aliens if there is no proof sought or required that they are or are not undocumented aliens?

    Typical liberal nonsense.

  • HG

    Whereis the evidence that Medicare and Medicaid is going to illegal immigrants?

    Still can’t read?

    from the link above:

    Oregon’s secretary of state reviewed a sample of 812 applications in 2002 and found that 25 were not citizens. The state estimated that it would cost an additional $2 million if 1 percent of the Medicaid rolls are not citizens

    Now think about that in California, Arizona, New Mexico, etc. Los Angeles alone is an illegal alien nightmare.

  • Hannitized

    So after all this, all HG can muster up is the door is open for illegals to cheat the system to get welfare, medicaid or medicare.

    He did not provide any evidence that Liberals have designed policy that gives Medicare or Medicaid, or Welfare quite frankly to illegal immigrants.

    Not even Newsmax repeats his lie.

  • HG

    In some cases, newly arrived legal immigrants, as well as illegal immigrants, can lawfully access Medicaid, but such coverage is greatly limited to emergency care.

    Again, from the link above.

  • HG

    So after all this, all HG can muster up is the door is open for illegals to cheat the system to get welfare, medicaid or medicare.

    All I can muster is proof liberal policies provide legal access to medicaid in certain circumstances and illegal access through intentionally vague language just like I claimed, boy.

    Yep, that is all I can provide H. You got me there.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/20/liberal-policies-benefit-illegals/

  • Hannitized

    HG,

    If I was like you, I could say Republicans are for employing illegal immigrants at the expense of Americans job market.

    Because did you know that Republicans hire illegal aliens who provide fake Soc-Sec and ID????? So therefore they are guilty of knowingly hiring illegal immigrants….right?

    That is all you are doing to Democrats….and it is shameful.

    What good is a law that democrats write which states no healthcare for undocumented aliens if there is no proof sought or required that they are or are not undocumented aliens?

    THEY ARE NOT SEEKING THAT INFORMATION NOW!!!

    Hospitals cant be in the business of verifying every persons citizenship. Do you know how many old people have their IDs, or social security cards or proof of citizenship?

    If just one person dies wrongfully in ER because of a mistake, there are going to be unbelievable claims in lawsuits. That is going to raise premiums so fucking high none of us will be able to afford healthcare.

  • Hannitized

    All I can muster is proof liberal policies provide legal access to medicaid in certain circumstances

    WONG! It would be illegal to provide false identification.

    Stop lying.

  • HG

    Not even Newsmax repeats his lie.

    Appearantly you missed the copyright at the bottom of the page. And it is from this article I quoted.

    © 2005 The Associated Press

  • HG

    WONG! It would be illegal to provide false identification.

    WIGHT! You wascally wiberal. I quoted the AP who wote it.

  • HG

    Now H, take your medicine boy, the truth will set you free from those liberal tenets blinding you to reality.

  • pparets

    So after all this, all HG can muster up is the door is open for illegals to cheat the system to get welfare, medicaid or medicare.

    Jul 25, 2009 … USA Today reported that from 2001 to 2004, spending for emergency Medicaid for illegal immigrants rose 28 percent in North Carolina alone. …

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/25/illegal... – 39k – Similar pages

    BTW – I don’t oppose emergency room medical services for anyone – legal or not – particularly children. But, let’s not kid ourselves, medicaide is routinely provided to illegals. The Clinton administration knew it, the Bush administration knew it, and so does the Obama administration.

  • Bat One

    HG,

    I believe, under current law, illegal aliens are not entitled to normal benefits through Medicaid, however under the 1996 welfare reform that restriction lasts only for the first 5 years an illegal alien resides in the US.

    More importantly, illegal aliens, like the indigent, ARE eligible for emergency medical services which ARE funded by Medicaid.

    Finally, children of illegal aliens whose family incomes are below 200% of “poverty level” are also eligible for normal Medicare coverage.

  • Hannitized

    Finally, children of illegal aliens whose family incomes are below 200% of “poverty level” are also eligible for normal Medicare coverage.

    Which would make the children American Citizens.

  • HG

    More importantly, illegal aliens, like the indigent, ARE eligible for emergency medical services which ARE funded by Medicaid.

    Bat,

    This is a lie according to the omniscient Hannitized in spite of claim to ignorance noted earlier. Regardless of the facts, this has to be a lie in order for H to prove me wrong and he will not easily relent.

    Here is another link highlighting the typical liberal double-speak on their intentions.

    http://patterico.com/2009/08/21/are-illegal-immigrants-covered-by-obamacare/

  • pparets

    Which would make the children American Citizens.

    Only if they are born in the United States.

  • Hannitized

    You quoted Newsmax, pretending to quote the AP. There is no original report that states what NewsMax manipulated.

    Here is the original report, it did not say what NewsMax added.

    http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/197717/medicaid_eligibility_checks_lacking_citizenship_claims_are_not_verified_in/

  • Hannitized

    Because it is not true…..Bat is speakign of aliens who become legal citizens.

    WE DON’T OFFER MEDICARE OR MEDICAL, MEDICAID TO ILLEGALS ON PURPOSE!!

    specific benefits, look at the groups who get them. America’s generosity as Hospital to the World[1] includes huge numbers of non-citizen “foreigners” who are welcome as Qualified Aliens. Comprehensive medical care extends to nine Qualified Alien groups:

    1) aliens lawfully admitted who become legal permanent residents, called LPRs who have “Green Cards” for work, technically Immigration’s “I 551″ status
    2) refugees
    3) aliens granted political asylum
    4) Cubans and Haitians who entered America under the 1980 Refugee Education Assistance Act
    5) aliens granted parole from prison for at least one year
    6) aliens scheduled for deportation but whose deportation has been withheld
    7) aliens granted “conditional entry”
    8) battered alien women from any country who are welcomed under the Violence Against Women Act of 2000; and
    9) victims of “severe forms of trafficking” who are brought to America and covered under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000.[2]

    Free emergency treatment is open to all: Qualified Aliens, Non-Qualified Aliens, and Illegal Aliens.

  • DINO

    You’re chasing your tails.

    The vast majority of health care spending is end of life for LEGALS.

    But you people think we should spend millions on those last few weeks, right? Despite the fact that your kind fought Medicare vigorously, now you want to spend as much as possible to keep near-corpses breathing for a few more weeks.

    Enjoy the decline!

  • HG

    Of course more proof of liberal intetions is the fact that illegals are also provide public education on the taxpayer’s dime.

  • Hannitized

    Sadly, the first group to get our wrath will be the illegals who came here more than for any other reason because as suck-ass as this nation is busy trying to make itself, we’re better than anywhere else on Earth. Good going liberals, you’ve just ensured the screwing over of the people you claimed to champion.

    You have to be beyond deluded to pretend that immigrants, since this country was founded has always taken their aggressions out on the immigrants. Before the Mexicans it was the Irish, and the Italians.

    There have always been idiots in our country threatening other Americans for tolerating immigration.

    You liberals have been warned. Bring about the destruction of the society in which you live and which protects you, and you will be among the first to be up against the wall. Liberals are classically the least able to survive much less thrive in a law of the jungle world yet idiotically do the most damage to the world that has kept them safe from that fate.

    This is the type of fringe radical that ends up going bonkers and shooting a day school full of jewish children.

    This is the kind of nut that goes bonkers and shoots up a bunch of police out of fear their guns are going to be taken away.

    When will the right realize we have always had kooks like this, during civil rights movement and beyond.

    Wake up kooks, you are becoming a fringe that civilization will not tolerate.

  • http://forums.kikizo.com/ Eddie_the_Hated

    If the cons had an ounce of credibility, they would not have to make things up to complain about, instead they could offer a counter proposal and offer reasoned debate,

    I’ll debate with you Hannitized. There’s no doubt in my mind that massive governmental spending is a bad choice. We’re digging a few trillion dollar holes for ourselves that we won’t be able to climb out of.

    My proposal would be to reform every expensive system in the US government. Everything from the Welfare system to the US Army.

    The US government needs to make reasonable, but firm cuts in every sector we can afford to make cuts in, and offer incentives for people to find waste in their own departments (IE, you make cuts where you know you can make them, or someone who knows nothing about your area of expertise will).

    Our current budget forecasts are unsustainable, agreed?

  • HG

    Wake up kooks, you are becoming a fringe that civilization will not tolerate.

    Any time you libs are ready to stop tolerating the majority of Americans make your move.

  • J.L.

    Hanni-”Like shuting down welfare. Is that something you want to boast about?” Yes! And it wasn`t “shut down.”

  • DINO

    Any time you libs are ready to stop tolerating the majority of Americans make your move.

    If you were the majority, we’d be living under McCain/Palin and a republican Congress.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    HG:

    As far as rising HC costs go, tort reform, illegals, the state line argument are all red herrings.

    So what do you think suitepotato, denial or wilful ignorance?

    Illegals are in a perfect and opportunity filled world irrelevant. In a society that is in the grip of a glass is always half empty and someone else always has to foot the bill for another three drops mindset, they are very relevant.

    However, our conscience and caring cannot be silenced. So we grudgingly put up with it. The problem is, we have our limits. We eventually resent the illegals AND the people who cynically used their plight to play on our sympathies enough to empower themselves, AND we act. We turn against the illegals and become downright mean and nasty to them which the liberals expect AND want. We turn against the liberals wholesale which they don’t want. Sorry, both come as a package deal and the days of forestalling the social catharsis with a guilt trip are coming to an end.

    Sadly, the first group to get our wrath will be the illegals who came here more than for any other reason because as suck-ass as this nation is busy trying to make itself, we’re better than anywhere else on Earth. Good going liberals, you’ve just ensured the screwing over of the people you claimed to champion. Way to go assholes. Instead of ensuring business prosperity and more jobs to go around than there are people, you did the reverse and then tried to ration out scraps. Did you EVER read of the French Revolution AND actually take away more than a fifth grade mentality from it?

    Tort reform is beyond logic and common sense and basic reasoning in terms of obviousness and only crazy people deny it. It’s like denying that people need to breathe to live, though I expect Hannah would happily post eighty times in one thread to argue an essentially toady little nitpick about artificial air supplies and SCUBAs and so on.

    There’s little reason for state line differences except for states’ rights. The states definitely have a constitutional right to take part in commerce regulation whenever it concerns the performing of commerce within their borders. I don’t think reciprocity compacts and other organic ideas will do anything but give a false sense of a third path between the federal cookie monster and the abyss of no change at all.

    An intermediary between the two would be better. That is, get the states to throw their own reps and senators under a bus, even though the same party dominates both, and concentrate on the state’s best interests. For instance, if CT, NY, NH, VT and MA solidly marched in lockstep and reciprocity, and it got traction with the people, the winds would shift sufficiently for the federal contingents to get the message and do the will of the people, not empower a government that will eventually eat them alive the instant they aren’t in office.

    Why are liberals so pigheadedly obsessive-compulsive about wrong ideas? Psychological retardation. Expect it to get worse.

    Quick are dirty, humans have a certain cognitive latency period between emotional thinking and intellectual thinking. Between throwing themselves at a locked door, and taking time to pick the lock. As human society’s communications infrastructure increases in speed and volume of flow, they are able to say more and more faster and faster until all they have to say is instant emotionality, because humans cannot abide saying nothing. As they increase in population numbers at the same time, the statistical opportunity for the reactions to be reflected faster and faster shoots up. As the reflections come faster and faster, they are ever more emotional, and the expectation of one’s own response becomes faster and faster, and thus less deliberated and more emotional.

    Global flame war. Global over stimulation. Global desensitization.

    Fringe nut-bags like Hannah and Dino have ever decreasing discouragement from society, the lack of which they take as justification. As society gets ever closer to where they were, they keep ahead of the stinking surf. When the surf withdraws now and again, Dino and Hannah and the rest are left higher and higher on the beach, closer and closer to your lounge chair.

    Eventually something has to give and human society must undergo a shift very suddenly and badly given its history. I’d rather it not, but humanity seems determined to make it happen no matter what. The only bright spot is that when the balloon goes up, there’s no law and order to protect the slime any more.

    You liberals have been warned. Bring about the destruction of the society in which you live and which protects you, and you will be among the first to be up against the wall. Liberals are classically the least able to survive much less thrive in a law of the jungle world yet idiotically do the most damage to the world that has kept them safe from that fate.

    No one said humans were smart.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Ah Dino, still too cowardly to back up your pathetic feeble words with action. Just like Jew hater Buzz. Just like all the rest of the libtards.

    Come get us conservatives with your liberal masses.

    If you can find more than three idiots willing to face off with a hundred million pissed off job holding tax payers.

    Good luck with that coward.

    We’ll be waiting.

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