Obama Says Questions About Abortion Are “Above My Paygrade”

Nothing says “leadership” like punting on the tough issues.

DALLAS – U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama side-stepped a pointed query about abortion on Saturday by “mega-pastor” Rick Warren during a televised forum.
Asked at what point a baby gets “human rights,” Obama, who strongly supports abortion rights, said: “… whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity … is above my pay grade.”
He went on to reiterate his view that it was important to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.

Since Obama won’t come clean on when he thinks life begins we’ll have to look at his past actions on the issue. And the most illuminating of those is Obama’s opposition to bills protecting babies who survive abortion and are alive outside of the mother’s womb:

Earlier this decade, such living, breathing, babies who survived labor were “shelved” – left to die and disposed of with other medical waste, or were “aborted” – killed outside the womb. The practice was ultimately banned by unanimous Congressional votes, as even the most pro-abortion Senate Democrats – including every defender of partial-birth abortion – recognized that killing these breathing babies is no longer abortion in any real sense. It crosses the line; it is infanticide. Yet, incredibly, Obama repeatedly worked to deny these living babies any right to life.
Jill Stanek, an Illinois nurse, testified in the US Congress in 2000 and 2001 – and before Obama’s Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee – about how induced labor abortions were handled at her hospital, relating this story: “One night, a nursing co-worker was taking an aborted Down syndrome baby who was born alive to our Soiled Utility Room because his parents did not want to hold him, and she did not have the time to hold him. I couldn’t bear the thought of this suffering child lying alone in a Soiled Utility Room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived.” Powerful stuff. Obama, however, was reportedly “unfazed” by her testimony.
Various state and federal attempts ensued to curb the gruesome practice, including the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, passed unanimously by both the House and Senate in 2002 (It did not immediately become law.)
In essence, these acts state that, whether wanted or not, once a baby is fully born, it is recognized as fully human and is entitled to equal protection of the law under the 14th Amendment. Even pro-abortion Democrats supported the BAIPA because it contained explicit language that it would not infringe on any abortion rights. Democrat Barbara Boxer, arguably the Senate’s most zealous pro-choice advocate, agreed that, with this language, the “amendment certainly does not attack Roe v. Wade.”
But not Obama. In March of 2001, Obama’s Illinois Judiciary Committee considered a law substantially identical to the BAIPA. It passed the Committee, with Obama voting against.

Perhaps Obama said the question was “above his pay grade” because it’s easier than telling people that you are in favor of killing babies who are alive outside of their mother’s womb.

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  • http://Array 2Hotel9

    Barri finally admits he is clueless. Good for him!

  • atease

    Mickey,

    Why such hate for Barry’s people..? They just want what is their due. A chicken in every pot and a welfare check from every State.

    atease

  • Mickey

    The office of the Presidency is above barrys pay grade.

    McCain was the clear leader last night. Decisive, concise, presidential. Barry looked like a kid trying to whip up excuses for the broken lamp.

    I found it amusing when he mentioned how he thought Welfare Reform might be a mistake, as if it were a dangerous decision. The truth is that Wisconsin Republican Governor Thompson drafted welfare reform BECAUSE constituents from Illinois were double dipping into the welfare system. It was Barry’s own people from Illinois, specifically Chicago, that were crossing the border into Wisconsin every month to collect welfare payments with false addresses. Welfare Reform stopped the scum from raiding the Wisconsin coffers.
    I’m sure Barry thought it was fine though.

  • GM Cassel AMH1(AW) USN RET

    Obama, Everything is above your paygrade. And the sorry thing is that you haven’t figured that out yet.
    GOLF. FOXTROT. YANKEE.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    So friend, the vote Republican for they are anti abortion, should be aborted for they have proven it is only a political slogan. It is merely lip service. The above observations apply equaly to the spineless Democrats

    Except that Republicans made Partial Birth Abortion illegal. They also voted for the Child Interstate Abortion Act and tried to pass the Child Pain Act. They voted down an Overseas abortion bill. There have been more.

    Under the umbrella of Roe vs Wade the Republicans have hardly been shy about shooting down abortion bills passed by the Dems, and have further limited the scope as much as they can without appointing new justices.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Above his “pay grade?”
    The guy pulls in MILLIONS! How much above that can you get?

  • sayanything-2407

    Asked at what point a baby gets “human rights,” Obama, who strongly supports abortion rights, said: “… whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity … is above my pay grade.”

    I have a problem with this.

    This is a non-answer in the evaluation of a promotion in the way I see it.

    If you are asked a question on how you would handle something in the position you will be promoted to, and you fail to answer, or just say, “it’s beyond my paygrade”, I find that you are not qualified to be promoted to that position then.

  • Neiman

    Obama said that although he’s pro-choice and supports Roe v. Wade, his goal is to reduce the number of abortions in America.

    “On this particular issue, if you believe that life begins at conception … and you are consistent (He isn’t), then I can’t argue with you on that,” he said. “What I can do is say, are there ways we can work together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies? (safe but rare?)”

    So-called “Choice” is a liberal euphemism for ‘abotion on demand.’ Thus to be pro-choice is to be pro-abortion, no getting around that simple truth. But, like Billy Jeff he is trying to play the ‘safe but rare’ game, with absolutely no reductions in the number of innocent human beings murdered in the womb each year.

    Obama is for abortion, he believes it is the right of the mother to murder her child in the womb, while I’ll bet that if a guy punches a pregnant woman in the gut and she aborts, he is willing to call that murder.

  • Neiman

    They left the issue of abortion untouched so as to use it to rally support during election time. Rhetoric is just empty words. Action shows core values, which both parties lack.

    Friend, I disagree, IMO it wasn’t put off to be used as a political issue in later election cycles, the Republicans just didn’t have either the guts and/or they didn’t really believe in the issue after elected. No matter what, you are right they could have and should have dealt with it!

  • ellinas

    Friend, I disagree, IMO it wasn’t put off to be used as a political issue in later election cycles, the Republicans just didn’t have either the guts and/or they didn’t really believe in the issue after elected. No matter what, you are right they could have and should have dealt with it!

    Neiman on August 17, 2008 at 01:09 pm

    So friend, the vote Republican for they are anti abortion, should be aborted for they have proven it is only a political slogan. It is merely lip service. The above observations apply equaly to the spineless Democrats

  • atease

    I know this is harsh, but I am surprised that he has children considering his love affair with abortion. This will be a difficult sell as we approach November. America does not support his full abortion beliefs, and he will be hammered on them by the 527′s.

    atease

  • ellinas

    Neiman. The Repubs had control oe the house, senate, and maybe the supreme court. they had ample chance to put the question to rest. They left it alone for political reasons.
    They left the issue of abortion untouched so as to use it to rally support during election time. Rhetoric is just empty words. Action shows core values, which both parties lack.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus Last Best Hope

    THE ONE’s “above my paygrade” will go down in history with John Kerry’s “voted for it before I voted against it” as the words that killed yet another Dem try to live in the White House

    priceless

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