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Saturday, May 17, 2008

Obama Places The Blame For The Pending Loss In Kentucky On Fox News

This guy is a piece of work:

LEXINGTON, Ky. — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, facing a likely defeat in next Tuesday’s primary election, won’t travel to Kentucky before the voting, but said he hopes to have much more time to win over Kentucky voters before the November general election.

He also blamed Fox News for disseminating “rumors” about him and said that that and e-mails filled with misinformation that have been “systematically” dispersed have hurt him in Kentucky.

Amazing, but not surprising. The left’s favorite punching bag, Fox news, doesn’t fall in line with the MSM groupthink that worships the ground he walks on. Therefore it’s their fault that he doesn’t connect with the voters in Kentucky.

The fact that he hasn’t a clue about what middle America thinks wouldn’t have anything to do with it, would it?

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With McCain running Obama’s chances look really good.  Let’s console ourselves with the thought of watching this chump implode on a daily basis every time he’s given a tough question.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 17, 2008 at 07:03 am

With McCain running Obama’s chances look really good.  Let’s console ourselves with the thought of watching this chump implode on a daily basis every time he’s given a tough question.

Small gratification that.  Remember he will be the one with the finger on our nuclear arsenal.  If that doesn’t bother you, nothing about him will.


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docdave on May 17, 2008 at 07:31 am

DocDave:

If that doesn’t bother you…

It won’t. Whistler has a single agenda. Stop McCain regardless of what it does to the nation.

He skews data, creates silly polls… For Whistler this has become a mission ... an obsession… regardless of the outcome.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 17, 2008 at 07:52 am

As opposed to PParents agenda to elect McCain no matter what he does to the country.

If you want my real agenda it’s to actually have a viable political party that supports economic freedoms.  If we lose that we lose everything. 

For others it’s all about the scoreboard, “yea my team won!” At the same time you lose those freedoms.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 17, 2008 at 08:03 am

Whistler:

As opposed to Pparents (sic) agenda to elect McCain…

Well, DUH!!

If the choice is between John McCain and Barack Obama, who the hell else do you think I would support!!??

Sit home and whine if you wish.  That’s a vote for the left!!


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 17, 2008 at 08:56 am

You left out the “no matter what he does to the country” PP.

I’m sorry it’s more than a “party thing” to me.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 17, 2008 at 08:59 am

No, whistler:  For you it is exactly about the party.

The election will be between John McCain and Barack Obama.

You may never publicly say it, but I know that you are wise enough to understand that between those two, there is only one choice - however painful -for any thoughtful American, John McCain.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 17, 2008 at 09:05 am

No, there is no choice right now.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 17, 2008 at 09:06 am

right now

Understood…


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 17, 2008 at 09:18 am

Whistler: Then what is YOUR solution? Third Party? It elects Obama! Don’t vote? It elects Obama! It is easy to be a naysayer, versus offering a reasonable answer. If it is Obama, Pparets is right about one thing, we conservatives may never get up to bat again.

So, as distatseful as it may be, I know I have little use for McCain, when I place on the scales the smaller amount of harm he may cause through his liberal tendencies versus the sure and much, much greater harm that Obama will inflict upon this nation on the other side, I think we have to financially support and vote for McCain. Beyond that our only hope is to get enough Republicans elected into the Senate to keep it from being filibuster proof and put pressure on the Republican Party to get off their collective asses, increase Republican representation in Congress in 2010 and recapture Congress and the White House in 2012.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 17, 2008 at 09:39 am

Neiman:  Amen!


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 17, 2008 at 09:46 am

I think you left out “a miracle happens” in there Neiman. 

The problem is that McCain’s going to lead to a destruction of the Republican party. 

I’ll weigh a candidates pros and cons but if they are going to be on balance bad for the country, I won’t vote for them.

By the way this isn’t an easy decision. 

I voted for GW Bush, I voted for Bob Dole, I voted for G HW Bush, I voted for Ronald Reagan, I would have voted for Gerald Ford had I been old enough.  As a dumb kid I liked Richard Nixon but knowing what I know now (OSHA, Price Controls) I wouldn’t have voted for him in 1972.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 17, 2008 at 10:08 am

Whistler: I respect your views and share your dislike of McCain, but at least be honest, when you don’t vote for McCain you are casting a yes vote for Obama and all the evil that entails. There is no escaping that simple fact.

Better McCain than Obama and then get off your buttocks and work overtime to rebuild the Republican Party from within and prevent a Democrat landslide in Congress this year.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 17, 2008 at 10:15 am

Better McCain than Obama and then get off your buttocks and work overtime to rebuild the Republican Party from within and prevent a Democrat landslide in Congress this year.

Supporting McCain and Saving the Republican party are two mutually exclusive things.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 17, 2008 at 10:18 am

Forgot the link:


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 17, 2008 at 10:21 am

whistler:

Supporting McCain and saving the party are two mutually exclusive things.

That’s ridiculous. And Neiman is right.  Try this choice:

“Saving the party” vs stopping Obama.

Can’t speak for you, but I’ll opt to stop Obama every time.


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 17, 2008 at 10:30 am

I wonder what he might say if he were to be the Democratic nominee and then loose to the Republican nominee?


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on May 17, 2008 at 11:52 am

Part of it entails who McCain will pick as a running mate. That will affect my decision on voting for him.

And he’s gotta stop making it seem like his rightward shift was a lie.

It is already hard to support McCain, but I’ve made it clear that if it comes to him vs Obama, I will vote for him. He’s starting to make me reconsider that…

Kenny on May 17, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Neiman: you say:

I respect your views and share your dislike of McCain, but at least be honest, when you don’t vote for McCain you are casting a yes vote for Obama and all the evil that entails. There is no escaping that simple fact.


What is all this evil you are talking about?
watashiwa on May 17, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Kenny said: Part of it entails who McCain will pick as a running mate. That will affect my decision on voting for him.

And he’s gotta stop making it seem like his rightward shift was a lie.

It is already hard to support McCain, but I’ve made it clear that if it comes to him vs Obama, I will vote for him. He’s starting to make me reconsider that…

Bingo, that is what it boils down to. IF McCain picks a REAL conservative and not some North Eastern Liberal RINO I will vote for him.


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goon on May 17, 2008 at 01:00 pm

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, facing a likely defeat in next Tuesday’s primary election, won’t travel to Kentucky before the voting, but said he hopes to have much more time to win over Kentucky voters before the November general election.

He also blamed Fox News for disseminating “rumors” about him and said that that and e-mails filled with misinformation that have been “systematically” dispersed have hurt him in Kentucky.

Kentucky isn’t going to vote for him because it is a Red State, one of the states that clings to their religion and guns. That is a bogus claim, if anything they have gone easy on him.


Check out:
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goon on May 17, 2008 at 01:02 pm
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I swear, no one understands what the fuck a primary election is for.  “The party”...the Republican party (that is all the people who voted in the Republican Primaries throughout these United States) has all but officially chosen John McCain to be their nominee for the office of President of the United States in the coming November election.  So who is being “saved”?  The majority of Republican Primary voters?  From their collective judgement?  Primaries ARE the intra-party fight.  Once that is settled, the party unites behind it’s nominee and pushes for victory in the general election.  If the parties were less polarized, feet stomping and fit throwing and hand sitting would be a tad bit more respectable.  As it stands, there are VAST differences between the center-right McCain and the off-the-deep-end-marxist-terrorist-sympathizing-leftist Obama.  Let it be known (as you are doing now) that he supports and promotes things you vehemently disagree with.  But withhold your vote for him and suffer further setbacks to your agenda.  Of the progressive agenda, much has been implemented over the decades.  How easy have they ever been rolled back?  How tenuous are similar gains for the conservative agenda?  It used to be that I thought people understood why conservatives HAD TO win the war of ideas.  Conservatives have to rhetorically best the opposition and sway people to the conservative way of thinking.  Ufortunately, the mass media is too busy carrying the opposition’s water to give those ideas, that side of the story a fair airing.  There is no choice but to fight harder.  Instead Republicans throw fits and throw in the towel when it all doesn’t work out just perfect.  They started tearing down the party in 2005 shortly after re-electing Bush.  And over what?  In the beginning - “PORK”.  Because that trifling segment of the federal budget was somehow the most important issue facing the nation.  They could have spent equal effort on entitlement spending and better served their movement, but no.  Republican “PORK”! Throw the bastards out!  How’s that anti-pork agenda doin’ now?  Unify or learn what it means to truly be maligned.  In four years there will be another set of primaries - a new shot at picking a candidate that better reflects your convictions.  This one is finished.  As a party, Republicans in states that award their delegates winner-take-all may decide they should revisit that arrangement.  Just a suggestion.

Osama Obama on May 19, 2008 at 02:36 am

Republicans in states that award their delegates winner-take-all may decide they should revisit that arrangement.

For smaller states, the “winner takes all” arrangement gives greater inducement to major candidates to spend time and money in their state. If the smaller states offered only a proportionate number of delegates, the temptation would be to concentrate one’s campaign where there was the greatest concentration of both votes and delegates.



A troll is someone who only wants to stir up trouble, not have an honest debate.  Some signs that a poster is a troll:
* Dodges questions from other posters * Refuses to give sources
* When one of its arguments is shown to be false, either ignores the proof or moves the goalposts.  Heh. (From the LGF faq)

Proof on May 19, 2008 at 04:45 am

OO.

At some point you have to draw a line in the sand.  McCain’s global warming scheme is where I won’t take it. 

If anything is dangerous to the country it’s that.  We beat the fascists with our economy.  We beat the commies with our economy.  We can beat the jihadists with our economy.

John McCain is dead flat wrong.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on May 19, 2008 at 06:20 am
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Proof,

Good point.  I’ll have to take that into consideration.  Wouldn’t it still be possible that candidates would have a more competitive race and need the smaller states just as much?  Let’s say that R.I. has it’s primary shortly after a very competitive TX primary where the candidates ran neck and neck, wouldn’t that force them to compete just as heavily in R.I. for the sake of gaining or maintaining momentum or even overcoming a slight loss?  Your thoughts are appreciated.

Whistler,

I share your (I assume intense) frustration and disgust with McCain and Obama over their embrace of the idiocy that is “human caused global warming” especially in regard to the radical economy destroying solutions they propose as fixes.  I just find a whole shit load of other stuff about Obama’s proposed agenda that makes me wretch and a few things about McCain I can respect (for example he has consistently spoken against ethanol subsidies even when questioned in Iowa by Iowans).  Draw a line if you must, but understand what you are risking and sacraficing when you do. Some things never get undone.

Osama Obama on May 20, 2008 at 01:28 am
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