So now we’ll have to give sexual deviates a separate “race” status in institutional victim class? Naw, not me.

You can do whatever the hell you want to do. That’s your right. But even an ardent homophobe like yourself can discuss this topic without acting like a child. It detracts from your argument.

My kids are brought up being taught homosexuality for the perversion that it is…More kids that will have to be deprogrammed when they leave the house…all pissed off that their parents were so blatantly hateful. You guys have closets by the score to climb back into and do your thing. More schoolyard taunting. You projecting here?

My accusation had less to do with the substance of your argument (which is an entirely different issue altogether) and more to do with your inability to discuss gay rights and homosexuality without acting like a 6th grader during the “changing program”…all giggly and full of sophomoric slurs.

Not sure why this would surprise anyone. Neither he nor Biden are intensely pro-gay-marriage. In addition, Obama has a fairly amalgous view about gay-rights in general. AND he already had Rev. Donnie McClurkin singing at some of his rallies. I disagree with Obama on this, but I’m confused as to why Liberals would see this as a “surprise”. More like continued dissapointment.

Dino fainted.

Homosexual behavior is a choice. It is risky and leads to 73% of all AIDS cases in the USA.

Even people who are atheists acknowledge the historical facts in The Bible.

Caveat, scholars now acknowledge the historical facts in the Bible. Youtube Atheist Wannabes badly quote discredited German scholars from two centuries ago and claim Jesus never existed.

Obama is taking flak for a purely symbolic move. The inauguration means nothing to policy the hard left just hates the ‘consorting with the enemy’ thing.

Warren is taking flak over, of all things, being a christian and respecting a sinner as a human being.

And this type of bigoted buffoonery is what “augers” your credibility. And you spelled “Kool-Aid” wrong. That doesn’t help either.

Koolade is spelled however one feels to do it. What happened to your one-sided tolerance? Oh yeah, you’re practicing it now…

Show me the bigotry. Prove it. Show me where what I stated wasn’t the facts. You can’t because it IS the facts. Obama worked towards BLACK ascendence, not hom-a-sexual anything. He spent two years campaigning on whatever people wanted to hear, has nothing to do with what he worked to accomplish in his training for the Presidency, his “community organizing”…

I understand that your “secret code words” trigger your ignorant accusations, and I shouldn’t bother responding, but please read up, would you…Ignorance is so…Pathetic.

Here come the cries of separation of church and state…

wait for it…

wait…

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never mind.

I’m really looking forward to reading the Daily Kos, etc. after this. I’m sure they are about ready to murder Barack. Republicans would be happy to see Warren up there, this is interesting.

Rick Warren is proof that social conservatives are not necessarily true-blue conservatives.

Social conservatives are NOT really conservative in many cases. IMO the more socially conservative a person is, the less likely that they even understand what conservative means. To much emotionalism quickly overpowers conservative tendencies, and social conservatives are mostly emotionally driven and have very little pragmatic intellectualism going for them. They are polar opposites.
I’m just sayin.

Rick Warren isn’t a social conservative. His political affiliation may be republican and he may take some positions that appear to be conservative but in reality his political affiliation is more ‘new evangelical Christianity’ than conservative or liberal, republican or democrat. It seems to be a blend mysticism and tradition. His politics start with his flavor of Christianity, sees America as a sort of gentile promise land in need of political and cultural redemption, and seeks to do so by Christianizing society. To him government is a means to building the kingdom (in some sense). His religious priority has become his political priority.

The above definition, taken at face value, can be attained without a hint of religious or superstitious beliefs.

Absolutely agree dragon. Natural law theory is of no religious nature. If you have a correct understanding of natural law theory you would undoubtedly know the difference between religion and the conclusion based on observations and reason that a Creator exists. You may very well believe in liberty but you cannot prove it scientifically. And you sure as hell can’t expect that a society which believes rights come from government has any political foundation for liberty.

the less likely that they even understand what conservative means.

dragon,

This is at the heart of the issue IMO, and because this understanding is so absolutely necessary, we must discuss it on a level that does more than acknowledge conservatism.

Conservatism is simply a movement that seeks to preserve our political liberty from any unjust restrictions by any government. Conservatives seek to do so by restricting government to its primary purpose which in turn allows individuals to practice their civil liberties.

In order to understand conservatism in America we must first understand liberty, both its immense freedom as well as the responsibilities and restrictions it places on government as well as the individual.

You cannot begin to understand liberty without a knowledge of the ‘natural law theory’ that gave birth to political liberty in America. If we are to ever see the conservative movement succeed, we must begin by educating ourselves and others about this God-given liberty.

Rick Warren stands for the same UN bull that Obama stands for. One is a wolf in wolf’s clothing and one is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. His P.E.A.C.E. plan is a bunch of B.U.L.L. It’s a fitting match.

Rick Warren is proof that social conservatives are not necessarily true-blue conservatives.