Obama Not Making Any Friends With Veterans

A few days ago I posted about the Obama administration’s plan to rob soldiers of some of their medical benefits. Today the head of the American Legion (the nation’s largest veterans organization) paid a visit to Obama to talk about the issue, and he didn’t leave happy.

The leader of the nation’s largest veterans organization says he is “deeply disappointed and concerned” after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
“It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan,” said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. “He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it.”
The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, “This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ‘ to care for him who shall have borne the battle’ given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm’s way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America’s veterans!”

Normally I am a staunch advocate of limited government and privatization. But in this instance we have troops who served their country, often in awful war zones that left them scarred and maimed, and they did so with the assumption that medical care would be one of the benefits they’d receive as compensation. The government has no business trying to opt out of that.
For all intents and purposes our troops are federal employees (or technically state employees, in the case of the National Guards). They’re a special class of federal employee, but even so. They performed a duty for their country and thus are owed certain things.
I imagine that Obama’s buddies in Big Labor would be raising cane if he were trying to cut back on health benefits for, say, veterans of 30 years behind the desk in some dusty federal administration building. But cutting health benefits for the troops?
Well. That’s ok.
Remember when the left was outraged about Bush not funding veterans care adequately? Remember when they hung the Walter Reed scandal around his neck? Where’s that outrage now?
What is perhaps the most odious part of all of this is the fact that even as Obama tries to cut costs by stiffing veterans he’s spending billions on bailouts to corporate executives and mortgage payoffs to irresponsible citizens.
Hope and change!

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  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 Dino2

    What MOS were you?

    They don’t serve, Lion. They get deferments for ass pimples like Rush.

    Shut your slacker Leftwing face.

    You didn’t serve.

    You disgust me.

    Looks like you got him with a direct hit, Lion. LOL!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    In the heart of Paris’s 7th sector (arrondissement) in 1670, Louis XIV, the French King at the time, initiated a project to construct a huge complex of buildings as a home and hospital for aged and unwell soldiers

    Les Invalides, is the name is a shortened form of hôpital des invalides, the hospital for invalids.

    Even back then, this King at least, understood that the nation would rise and fall based upon the strength of its common soldier.

    If they didn’t fight when commanded, well then, you would end up with the running-away French of 1940 (and a German occupation until real men came to liberate the country some 4 years later) or a Russian army of 1917, or an Italian army of 1943 (or any modern-day Democrat) — armies all famous for being faint-hearted, demoralized and useless on the field of battle.

    For whatever real reason the French King might have had, the fact that it was set up in the heart of Paris, not some out of the way outskirt or even in a small town far removed, and in an ornate, glorious building, sent the message to the troops that they were appreciated. Should they be injured, or after years of service, they would be taken care of, just as they had served their country.

    This was not a hand-out. This was the repayment of a debt, often incurred by blood or loss of limb.

    The domestic Marxists we have become infected with absolutely despise our military. Perhaps they instinctively recognize that the military serves with honor, something that they do not have. That inner knowledge of cowardice must torment them.

    They may try to justify this cognitive dissonance by trumping up some justification as to why they hate the military (they are the willing oppressors of innocents) yet absolutely refuse to recognize the distinction between the difference between the soldier of oppression (Soviet, Chi-Com, Nazi, Hussein’s Iraq, etc… ) and the soldiers that carry a rifle to protect and liberate.

    So Obama, being a Leftist, is of this mindset. He hates the military, hates America, and certainly — given his 20-odd years listening to the rantings of Rev. Wright — hates White folks. Can you expect anything other than actions intended to weaken and insult the military?

    Bleed it white through budget cuts? Demoralize and degrade it with abrogation of don’t-ask-don’t-tell? Prepare it for failure on the battlefield by robbing it of much-needed replacement weapon systems?

    That Obama does this against Veterans is no surprise.

    Soldiers are the country.

    Obama hates the soldiers,

    Obama hates the country.

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    Aside from DAV’s being able to procure their own insurance… Does it need to be mentioned that employers (who DO provide medical insurance benefits) would be strongly disinclined to hire disabled veterans due to the increase in the company’s premiums?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    The little loser kept fucking with my profile so I added a few choice comments about him

    I read some of your “few choice comments”. What a classless loser you are! Your “profile” shouldn’t require insulting others to overcome your verbal impotence.
    (It is only verbal…right?)

  • duh moments

    It pains me to see a John Deere tractor desecrated over and over by such idiocy. I’m sure my father and many other farmers are turning over in their grave hearing such stupidity printed from an owner of such a machine. Please at least have the decency to change your picture.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 Dino2

    Dino has been gone because that pussy likwidshoe blocked my password. The little loser kept fucking with my profile so I added a few choice comments about him and he abused his “Say Anthing” power and fucked with my account. So much the freedom of the blog.

    That’s about the only way you miscreants can win an argument anymore. Silence the opposition.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Normally I am a staunch advocate of limited government and privatization. But in this instance we have troops who served their country, often in awful war zones that left them scarred and maimed, and they did so with the assumption that medical care would be one of the benefits they’d receive as compensation. The government has no business trying to opt out of that.

    Good points Rob, BUZZ seems to miss the point if the government sends it’s warriors to the combat zone they owe it to their soldiers to pay for their medical treament.

  • LoadTheMule

    Nonsense! Let the free market provide for them!

    Walk a perimeter in a war zone, then say that. Until you do, speak not about that of which you know nothing.

  • Lioncourt

    Dude, I will answer any question about my service, you won’t answer one about yours.

    What MOS were you?

  • sayanything-4625

    Toad, I seem to remember setting in a classroom and being told that Uncle Sugar paid for our health care and we needed to be careful. Each time you were injured you would be judged if you injury was in the line of duty or not. If it was you were covered, if not, like in the case of a sunburn, you could be punished for damaging government property. If being wounded in battle is not in the line of duty. I don’t know what could be. Its a shame that anyone would try to make a soldier pay for an injury received on the job.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 Dino2

    Good points Rob, BUZZ seems to miss the point if the government sends it’s warriors to the combat zone they owe it to their soldiers to pay for their medical treament.

    Nonsense! Let the free market provide for them!

  • Mark

    God do you blather on, and on. Hey dumbfuck, show where he is cutting their benefits.
    Yea, that’s what I thought. He is not.

    So you are OK with Bambi giving hand outs left and right, but not taking care of the veterans that keep your ass free to say such idiotic things.

    And what’s to stop the insurance companies from cutting them off or canceling their insurance, Dumb fuck. Obviously, you have never been in the military or know anyone who has.

  • Buzz

    Another lie from you; fascist Obama has cut every American’s money in value with his massive pork spending bill, and all the rest of his pork spending. He has vastly increased the money supply with no increase in the……..

    God do you blather on, and on. Hey dumbfuck, show where he is cutting their benefits.

    Yea, that’s what I thought. He is not.

  • Lioncourt

    Move_Zig, next time you walk a perimeter for this country will be the first.

    Lioncourte, 35D. What was your MOS? I suspect you won’t answer because it will be a lie.

    Fucking poseur.

  • Mark

    I agree, Woof. But that is exactly where Obama wants this to go. He is seeking to have the insurance companies pick up the tab for post-duty treatment of injuries caused during battle.

    Good way to give “cheaper” health care to all Americans!

    This is going to so backfire on Bambi, a democrat president will never get the miltiary vote again, Active or inactive.

    What an idiot!

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    He is recouping the money spent on their treatment, by the insurance company’s who were insuring them at the time of their injury.

    Odd. When I was on active duty, I had no private insurance. I had FULL medical coverage paid by the United States government for the entire duration of my tour. Had I suffered a either an injury on the job — wartime or not — the only insurance I would have had at the time of my injury would have been that which was provided (and guaranteed) by the U.S. gummint.

    The U.S. sends her soldiers into harm’s way to do their her bidding. Private insurance cannot logically be held financially responsible for a soldier who is legally bound by the UCMJ to perform dangerous tasks for which insurance companies would normally refuse coverage.

    If this is how it will be, it will be damn near impossible for wounded soldiers to acquire new private medical insurance upon discharge.

  • U238

    Real quickly, Obama is doing this to save an estimated $550 million?

    Didn’t we just fire of the largest spending bill in the history of the US government? How many billion was that again?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Let’s see Lie-in-Court, you sashay in here, lisping Left-wing rants, can’t even get the nomenclature for WP correct, and can’t even do a basic intel task like searching a database.

    If you were Intel, you sure sucked at it. And if you were military, it was in your Leftard, benny-boy dreams.

    You and your butt-buddy Dino can celebrate diversity together and exchange fecal tasting tongue-kisses.

    Sorry.

    Didn’t mean to turn you on.

    Freekin poseur

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    Sweet Jeebus. I can’t believe this thread was allowed to be hijacked by a hatemonger posting an off-topic comment about how he got locked out.

    Grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls,
    the courage to debate with honest opponents,
    and the wisdom to know the difference.

    This was supposed to be a discussion about Zero’s flippant disregard for America’s responsibility to her soldiers.

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    Another thing just came to mind… Would-be soldiers will have to keep all of this in mind. If the enlistee considers the chance of something unfortunate occurring to them while under the servitude of the U.S., they may also then foresee the subsequent difficulty of acquiring and maintaining a prohibitively expensive private health insurance policy to care for their injuries after their tour of duty is over.

    Upon discharge, some soldiers may simply refuse (or be wholly unable) to secure a private policy for themselves. Thus putting their health and/or financial security permanently at risk. Nice way to treat our finest.

    Take, for instance, some point in the future after such a gut-wrenching policy is enacted, and our nation is attacked. How very unfortunate it would be for a nation who needs her finest to defend her, and there may be so, so many fewer willing to heed the call because America refused to back them when they needed her.

  • http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

    I agree, Woof. But that is exactly where Obama wants this to go. He is seeking to have the insurance companies pick up the tab for post-duty treatment of injuries caused during battle.

  • 2Hotel9

    I keep telling you people, the fucking VA is the problem and always has been. Get the hell away from it and never, not fucking ever, have anything to do with their fucking shit.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Shut your slacker Leftwing face.

    You didn’t serve.

    You disgust me.

  • Mark

    Real quickly, Obama is doing this to save an estimated $550 million?

    My thoughts exactly. 500 million is checken feed to these guys. Wonder how far enlistment rates will drop because of this.

    How would you like to be a military recruiter, “Join the Army, be all you can be” “Howver, if you get shot we won’t take care of you after you are discharged!”

    Let’s let members of congress and the prez pay for their own health care!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 Dino2

    I read some of your “few choice comments”. What a classless loser you are! Your “profile” shouldn’t require insulting others to overcome your verbal impotence.

    When someone abuses their blog moderator privleges repeatedly to modify my profile he gets what he deserves. Even I follow the rules of this place. He was making his own. He shouldn’t be messing with my profile.

    You wouldn’t know class if it bit you in the ass. Poetry!

  • robert108

    If he was cutting benefits you may have a point, but he is not.

    Another lie from you; fascist Obama has cut every American’s money in value with his massive pork spending bill, and all the rest of his pork spending. He has vastly increased the money supply with no increase in the production of goods and services; in fact, the quantity of goods and services has decreased, thus producing two-way inflation.
    Like the Clintons, fascist Obama obviously hates the military.
    I guess that’s why he wants his Brown Shirt “civilian defense force”.

  • 2Hotel9

    Mark, you nail it. Why do people who hold an elected ofice for a single term get free healthcare for life?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 Dino2

    All conservatives should be killed.

    Never said that.

    Bush was a nazi

    Never said that

    Republicans are evil.

    Never a truer statement written.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Walk a perimeter in a war zone, then say that. Until you do, speak not about that of which you know nothing.

    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to!

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Normally I am a staunch advocate of limited government and privatization. But in this instance we have troops who served their country, often in awful war zones that left them scarred and maimed, and they did so with the assumption that medical care would be one of the benefits they’d receive as compensation. The government has no business trying to opt out of that.

    Good points Rob, BUZZ seems to miss the point if the government sends it’s warriors to the combat zone they owe it to their soldiers to pay for their medical treament.

  • sayanything-4625

    I was thinking about this overnight, most insurance companies have a “war clause” that specifically exempts coverage for injuries during war. How’s Obama going to get around that?

    http://www.online-health-insurance.com/health-insurance-resources/dictionary/war-clause.htm

    War Clause

    A provision excluding liability of an insurer if a loss is caused by war.

  • sayanything-5371

    Dino has been gone because that pussy likwidshoe blocked my password.

    LOL!!!!!!!! ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    That’s about the only way you miscreants can win an argument anymore. Silence the opposition.

    Awww, that’s cute. The imbecile can’t make a logical point to be argued, so he says the only way we can win an argument is to silence him. Such examples of his flawless logic:

    All conservatives should be killed.
    Bush was a nazi.
    Republicans are evil.

    All completely moronic points that are simply dismissed with a nope, and passed over for more intelligent debaters.

  • Buzz

    If he was cutting benefits you may have a point, but he is not. He is recouping the money spent on their treatment, by the insurance company’s who were insuring them at the time of their injury. My insurance would not end because I went into combat, and with no exclusion for combat injuries he has a good point. They were injured while insured, the insurance company should pay.

    Again your argument has no basis in fact.

  • WOOFX

    I can’t see private insurance covering vets service connected disabilities.

    Generally pre-existing conditions are not covered.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Holy shit! Dino nowhere around and WOOF made sense. Absolutely correct. Pre-existing conditions would not be covered UNLESS BO can get congress to throw themselves on swords he put in front of them which is NEVER going to happen.

    Seriously, he needs congress to do this and you pretty much only get this matter in front of the military men and women and their families hyping it to the 2010 midterms. Even the retards in congress can see the denouement of that.

    He can try to use an executive order, but that should go down real well for a prez who had nothing good to say about his predecessor’s usage of executive orders.

  • Anonymous

    The battle between private insurance and government-funded programs like Medicare is an ongoing one. Wonder how a Medicare supplental insurance provider would react to this

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