Obama Names Man With Zero Intelligence Experience To Head Of CIA

Sure. Why not.
What’s the worst that could happen?

Given his background, Mr. Panetta is a somewhat unusual choice to lead the C.I.A., an agency that has been unwelcoming to previous directors perceived as outsiders, such as Stansfield M. Turner and John M. Deutch. But his selection points up the difficulty Mr. Obama had in finding a C.I.A. director with no connection to controversial counterterrorism programs of the Bush era. . . .
Aides have said Mr. Obama had originally hoped to select a C.I.A. head with extensive field experience, especially in combating terrorist networks. But his first choice for the job, John O. Brennan, had to withdraw his name amidst criticism over his role in the formation of the C.I.A’s detention and interrogation program after the Sept. 11 attacks.
Members of Mr. Obama’s transition also raised concerns about other candidates, even some Democratic lawmakers with intelligence experience. Representative Jane Harman of California, formerly the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, had hoped to get the job, but she was ruled out as a candidate in part because of her early support for some Bush administration programs like the domestic eavesdropping program.

Just so we’ve got this straight, Obama was so desperate to find someone not tainted by “torture” (aka: effective interrogation techniques that work) that he had to find someone who has never worked in intelligence before.
And this at a time when we need to prevent the future necessity of wars like those in Afghanistan in Iraq by having better human intelligence.
Ace notes:

I don’t see a damn thing in this Wiki bio indicating any relevant experience for the job. Except for being a lifelong partisan hack who can be trusted to hide the stuff that might be embarrassing for Obama.
Like, say, proof of Iran’s nuke experiments– embarrassing, because if that gets out publicly, it would cause an outcry and calls for Obama to address the issue

By the way, remember when the left rose a stink about Bush having appointed Michael Brown head of FEMA despite having a thin resume in the disaster response field? I think that criticism was apt. Bush shouldn’t have appointed Brown because Brown clearly didn’t know what he was doing.
But now imagine another Michael Brown, except this time he’s in charge of the federal agency that’s supposed to stop terrorists from setting off a suitcase nuke in Los Angeles.
Feeling safe?
On, and this guy opposed the troop surge that worked out beautifully in Iraq.
Another instance of bad judgment on behalf of Obama to go along with Ayers, Dohrn, Wright, Blagojevich, Rezko and Bill Richardson?
Time will tell, I guess.

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  • http://Array jkpv

    Lets see, the job of the CIA is to keep secrets secret, like Clinton did when he let the nuke secrets out of Los Alamos to the Chinese, and to learn the secrets of the bad guys, like he didn’t when the WTC got hit the first time. Panetta’s the perfect choice from someone who knows nothing, has done nothing and knows no one of any character. Between Panetta trying to watch the front door, and Napolitano more than willing to leave the back door wide open, I’d say we’re pretty screwed.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Boy, wouldn’t it would be nice to have someone in charge who had a concept of how to run operations, what an operation is, the history of operations, the history of foreign and domestic threats, and a concept of what threats we are facing, as well as possible threats just appearing on the horizon?

    Not only that but what the Sister intelligence agencies are doing and what their staked out turf is, what foreign intelligence agencies are doing and what sort of assets there are out there, both foreign organized and informal?

    We can only hope and pray that this Leftist has enough respect for the need for Intelligence-gathering and its’ vital role in the continued national existence to kick back and let the experts run the show.

    Being a Leftist, I am wagering that that won’t happen.

    Carter and Clinton both threw monkey wrenches into the Intelligence / National Defense functions. Their need to control and F-Up national defense is too strong.

    If you are a covert asset, it’s probably a smart thing to get the heck out of dodge, cash out that Swiss bank account and assume a new identity in South America some place – because if the past is any indicator of the future, your cover looks like it will be blown soon.

  • ollie-B

    How do you run an intelligence agency well if you have no background in intelligence?

    Apparently you flunked the class on management. A man with the proper managerial skills can come into any environment and make a big impact on turning things around. That is who we need at the CIA. What qualifications do you need for this job? A class in covering your ass? No we need someone with good managerial and people skills who can bring adversaries together and maintain control of the work environment. A tough, but fair, task master. Someone you can’t bullshit. Someone who stands up for his people when they are right and cuts off heads when they are wrong. I am sure there is going to be a tense time for Panetta. The Company wants one of their own in charge. And like other cliques, they will treat him as an outsider. This is the type of change Obama was talking about. Panetta being a Clinton retread doesn’t matter.

  • ellinas

    More faux “change.”

    Kevin on January 5, 2009 at 08:20 pm

    Would it make you happy if he picked George Tenett for the job?

  • ellinas

    How do you run an intelligence agency well if you have no background in intelligence?

    Rob on January 5, 2009 at 02:58 pm

    The answer to your question is very simple:
    You let the foot soldiers do their work while you drink coffee or tea read plenty newspapers, read a spy novel from time to time, solve a crossword puzzle, ask congress for a lot of money, and post often on SayAnythingBlog.

  • ellinas

    I’ve got you fooled, just like my mother.

    The Whistler on January 5, 2009 at 04:58 pm

    I would tell your mother of your confession, but cannot since working for the “company” I had to sign confidentiality agreements. You secret is safe with me.

  • markm

    Representative Jane Harman of California, formerly the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, had hoped to get the job, but she was ruled out as a candidate in part because of her early support for some Bush administration programs like the domestic eavesdropping program.

    …didn’t The One vote for the last FISA bill??. So Jane H. who has at least some intel experience is shot down because she was in favor of the same thing The One was????. Brilliant.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Not quite, Rob. He was also the US ambassador to the UN and Envoy to China, both jobs that are definite plusses on his intelligence resume.

    He also only served as an interim director, only 355 days, after the CIA was revealed to have been involved in corrupt and illegal activities.

    His job was never intended to be be permanent.

    He also seved on the Warren Commission, which investigated the Kenneddy assassination. Maybe a +, maybe not, depending on your tendancy to be troofer. Heh.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    List of Hillary Clinton presidential campaign endorsements

    National political figures

    Fmr. National Security Advisor Sandy Berger [28]
    Fmr. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Henry Cisneros [29]
    Fmr. Democratic National Committee Chair Debra DeLee [30]
    Fmr. Democratic National Committee Chair Steve Grossman [31]
    Fmr. Democratic National Committee Chair Terry McAuliffe [32]
    Fmr. White House Chief of Staff Mack McLarty [33]
    Fmr. White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta [34]
    Fmr. Secretary of Health and Human Services Donna Shalala [35]
    Fmr. Secretary of Transportation Rodney Slater [36]
    Fmr. Democratic National Committee Chair Robert Strauss [37]
    Fmr. United States Ambassador to the United Nations Andrew Young [38]
    Kathleen Kennedy, daughter of Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy [3][4]
    Kerry Kennedy, daughter of Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy and a human rights activist[3][4]
    Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., an environmentalist and a member of the Kennedy family[5][4]

    What do you, mean he’s got no intelligence experience?

    He endorsed Hillary for Obama’s job. The man obviously has no intelligence at all. Just ask any of these Obama supporting Liberal idiots.

    Would a man with any intelligence endorse Hillary when the Unicorn pilot/man who’ll save the world! was running against her?

    Heh.

  • mdmdc

    Honest question — what were George Bush Sr.’s qualifications to be head of the CIA in 1976, and how do the compare with Panetta’s?

  • mdmdc

    Thanks, Rob — that really cleared up the intelligence part of my question (sarcasm intended, because you used it yourself). Mr Bush Sr.’s very admittedly heroic actions when he was a pilot from the age of 18 to 22 or 23 during WWII certainly are a major qualification for later appointment as head of the CIA. Because being a teenage/early 20s pilot gives you a lot of experience running an intelligence agency.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Apparently ollie-B flunked that management class.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who this week begins her tenure as the first female head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said she was not consulted on the choice and indicated she might oppose it.

    “I was not informed about the selection of Leon Panetta to be the CIA director,” Feinstein said. “My position has consistently been that I believe the agency is best served by having an intelligence professional in charge at this time.”

    A senior aide to Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), the outgoing chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said the senator “would have concerns” about a Panetta nomination.

    Rockefeller “thinks very highly of Panetta,” the aide said. “But he’s puzzled by the selection. He has concerns because he has always believed that the director of CIA needs to be someone with significant operational intelligence experience and someone outside the political realm.”

    Who you gonna believe, a Liberal moron like ollie-B or two Liberal morons like Sens. Feinstein and Rockefeller? At least Dianne and John D. were smart enough to be rich. ollie-B.? Not even close.

    Heh.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    More faux “change.”

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    mdmdc,

    Comparing the two is an apples/oranges kind of thing.

    Bush’s role as director was never intended to be permanent. He was a ‘caretaker’.

    Panetta isn’t set to be a short-term caretaker. Unless Obama isn’t being honest…

    Bush’s term, less than a year, was during a peaceful time.

    Panetta will be taking the seat with two wars going 93 if you count the overall war on terror) in a POST 9-11 world.

    At least Bush had military experience added to his resume (US ambassador to the UN and Envoy to China).

    Panetta does not.

    I personally didn’t like Bush and didn’t think he was qualified to be Director CIA. I have nothing against Panetta but know without a doubt that he is less qualified than Bush was.

  • ellinas

    Huh? Barry promised “change” not Clinton retreads!

    Kevin on January 5, 2009 at 08:31 pm

    Yes he did!
    But remember it was Bush that hung the medal on George’s chest for a job well done.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Huh? Barry promised “change” not Clinton retreads!

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    Hey, ollie-B, here’s another Liberal who’s not sure Panetta is quite up to the job….any more.

    Question: Some are – some are questioning Leon Panetta’s lack of intelligence – lack of experience on intelligence matters. Sorry about that. I know this is tricky for you since you haven’t announced it yet, but what does he bring to the table for you?

    Obama: Well, as you noted, I haven’t made – haven’t made a formal announcement about my intelligence team.

    (cell phone rings)

    Obama: That may be him calling now… finding out where it’s at.

    Obama: I have the utmost respect for Leon Panetta. I think that he is one of the finest public servants that we have. He brings extraordinary management skills, great political savvy, an impeccable record of integrity.

    As chief of staff, he is somebody who – to the president – he’s somebody who obviously was fully versed in international affairs, crisis management, and had to evaluate intelligence consistently on a day-to-day basis.

    Having said all that, I have not made an announcement. When we make the announcement, I think what people will see is, is that we are putting together a top-notch intelligence team that is not only going to assure that I get the best possible intelligence unvarnished, that the intelligence community is no longer geared towards telling the president what they think the president wants to hear, but instead are going to be delivering the information that the president needs to make critical decisions to keep the American people safe.

    I think what you’re also going to see is a team that is committed to breaking with some of the past practices and concerns that have, I think, tarnished the image of the agencies, the intelligence agencies, as well as U.S. foreign policy.

    Last point I will make, though, on this is that there are outstanding intelligence professionals in the CIA, in DNI, and others, and I have the utmost regard for the work that they’ve done, and we are committed to making sure that this is a team effort that’s not looking backwards, but is looking forward to figure out how we’re going to serve the American people best, OK?

    So after you flunked out of Getting Rich 101 what grade were you able make in Management 101?

  • groetzinger

    Seems he picked someone that can run the agency well and let the agency seek the intelligence.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    in spite of your sometimes hot rhetoric you are an OK dude.

    I’ve got you fooled, just like my mother.

  • Socks

    Ouch… This could be why, in a few years terrorist attacks will be the norm

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Ellinas have you been spying on me?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Stay out of the way?

    But no clintonista is going to do that.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    this was some kind of a political favor or something to do with the Clinton’s it stinks to the high heaven just proves what many of us thought NOBAMA is weak on the defense of this nation and is making a mokery out of the nation’s defense. This is an utter F’N joke if you aske me.

  • ellinas

    Ellinas have you been spying on me?

    The Whistler on January 5, 2009 at 03:17 pm

    Yes! I have determined through your writings (spying on you), that in spite of your sometimes hot rhetoric you are an OK dude.
    Thus the spying on you was discontinued because:
    a) You are not a threat to our national security.
    b) Diverting the resources used to spy on a benign citizen, was a waste of time, money and personnel.

    Rest assured that we at the Nation’s Intelligence agencies are diligently working to make sure our leaders are better informed of what is going on around the world, in spite of our chief sitting around in his office sipping coffee and/or tea and having surpassed Robert108′s posts at the SAB blog by a number which forever shall remain secret.

  • Ken S

    This is one big boner of a move on Obama’s part. But doesn’t it have that familiar leftwing smell to it, i.e. stupidity. And Panetta, what a boob….. Here we go.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    This guy is going to be in over his head.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Obama Names Man With Zero Intelligence Experience To Head Of CIA

    Rob: There’s a problem with your headline!
    There! I fixed it!

    Obama Names Man With Zero Intelligence To Head Of CIA

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    A man with the proper managerial skills can come into any environment and make a big impact on turning things around

    Oh Geez. I have to disagree with this.

    I worked for 5 years in DC, working on Fortune 100 mergers. From telecoms to laminated paper to national food store chains to military subcontractors — the Harvard MBA had left its’ mark and Dilbert was a lot closer to reality than the Layman would ever feel comfortable with.

    What that school of thought seems to have engendered is a cohort of those who are basically clueless about the subject matter, telling their Subject Matter Expert subordinates how to run the show, because, basically, they are experts in running shows.

    It didn’t work. It’s a good part of the reason for the Dot.com boom and bust, for the Junk Bond, for the S&L Crisis and the Real Estate Debacle of the mid-1980′s and very possibly a major contributor to the problems we have today.

    Organization is not fungible — as much as the Harvard School would like to tell you it is. Before you buy what they are selling, look at what they are in the business of… getting tuition dollars. What happens to their student body matters to them primarily in how much Alum cash they can reach out and retrieve.

    They are not SME’s in national defense, intelligence, computer networks and so on. The MBA’s work with their spreadsheets, power point presentations, endless memoranda, meeting minutes and headcount analyses.

    With respect to the Intelligence Field:

    At some point you have to know the vast global history of what is going on in, well, history, because much of what happens today, and will happen in the future, follows a traceable trajectory out of the past.

    You are tasked with eliciting Intentions and Capabilities, not just of your known enemies, but of your friends and those grey-area nations, such as Pakistan, India and France.

    You have to have at least an inkling of what it is to run an operation on the ground, since HUMINT (Human Intelligence — the traditional spy work) is perhaps the most costly, risky and yet has the biggest returns of all fields of intelligence. It also takes the longest time to develop sources. And in the event of compromise (meaning blown covers) they can be wiped out, or worse yet, exposed and turned into feeding you false information without your knowledge.

    An idiot at the very top of an organization like this can do untold damage to a nation. It can very, very likely threaten its future existence.

    Even a brief look at recent history (WWII and Post WWII) will show that accurate intelligence is a massive force multiplier:

    WWII – Radar vectoring allowed the Brits to prevail in the Battle of Britain because they could position the few aircraft they had to be in ambush positions against German aircraft formations.

    Codebreaking – the Brits did an excellent job of breaking the German Cypher machine (ULTRA) and this translated into codebreaking of the Japanese code (MAGIC) which was essentially a dumbed-down Nazi code.

    The US Navy could anticipate Japanese movements at sea, since we had their codes pretty much broken.

    Post WWII – we had broken much of the Soviet code (VENONA Intercepts) but, suffered a long series of setbacks with Moles in the US and allied intelligence services, in which we lost a great deal of our most closely-held secrets.

    The Soviets made massive strides in Nuclear weapons development thanks to the likes of the Rosenbergs and Greenglass.

    The Red Chinese and North Koreans, and by extension, other countries in the Middle East, gained Neutron warhead, guidance and multistage technology, due to Clinton removing the security from many exports and allowing the state secrets to end up in enemy hands. Oddly enough, the Democrats had to return substantial sums of money when it was revealed, post-election, that Clinton had been receiving soft money donations from the Red Chinese People’s Liberation Army.

    No. We need an old Intelligence hand, a top-ranking military Officer with strategic background or at the very least, a history professor on the order of Polmar or Mahan.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    He’s a decorated war veteran with combat experience, but outside of that I don’t see any real qualifications.

  • WOOFX

    The crackerjack management team that foiled Sauidi hijackers, WMD’s, biolabs, anthrax attacks, the Taliban, train bombings through out Europe, will be gone?
    Say it ain’t so.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    How do you run an intelligence agency well if you have no background in intelligence?

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