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Monday, May 19, 2008

Obama: Iran Not A Threat, No Need To Worry About “Little” Countries Like North Korea And Venezuela

Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez is supporting totalitarianism and anti-Americanism all over South America.  North Korea is a nuclear-armed communist dictatorship in the hands of a madman.  Iran thumbing its nose at international pressure to halt its nuclear program while simultaneously sponsoring jihad and terrorism throughout the middle east.

But hey, why worry?

Also, Obama’s suggestion that the Berlin Wall fell because Reagan negotiated with Mikhail Gorbachev is so patently absurd as to be laughable.  Diplomatic ties with the Soviet Union were established well before Reagan (Stalin was our ally in WWII, remember?) meaning that our relationship with that former nation was a much different animal than our relationship with Iran or North Korea.  And the Berlin Wall collapsed because the Soviet Union’s economy collapsed.  Socialism didn’t turn out to well for them, just as it hasn’t turned out well for any other country that has tried it.

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Rob,

Iran thumbing its nose at international pressure to halt its nuclear program

“We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program,” reads a declassified version of the National Intelligence Estimate key findings.
http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf

[quoteAnd the Berlin Wall collapsed because the Soviet Union’s economy collapsed. ]

There were many other factors that contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union.

-Futile war in Afghanistan
-Chernobyl disaster
-Gorbachev reforms
-Losing absolute control of media
-East German demonstrations

Socialism didn’t turn out to well for them, just as it hasn’t turned out well for any other country that has tried it.

China? China has been the fastest-growing major nation for the past quarter of a century with an average annual GDP growth rate above 10%.

Nunez on May 19, 2008 at 11:16 am

China? China has been the fastest-growing major nation for the past quarter of a century with an average annual GDP growth rate above 10%.

When you’re big, at the bottom, and allow a little bit of economic freedom = you boom. China only had one place to go, and that is up.

You’re going to credit socialism for that?

likwidshoe on May 19, 2008 at 11:23 am

We are negotiating with the
North Koreans at this moment.

TOKYO—As the Bush administration inches toward a deal to reward North Korea for retreating from its nuclear ambitions,

Right Now

WOOF on May 19, 2008 at 11:31 am

China has been making great strides. It is not perfect. BUT who is?

Zsa Zsa on May 19, 2008 at 11:35 am

Having been to mainland China many times, with long stays there for business reasons, I can tell you that while China is still technically a Communist State, the spirit of individual entrepreneurship and love for capitalism among the people is nothing short of astounding. Communism holds on because of a bunch of old farts controlling the military, but the heart of the people there is anything but communist. So, I must say the evidence is that Communism failed in The Peoples Republic of China.

In the meantime, the Democrats cannot wait to get Communism up and operational here!


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 19, 2008 at 12:16 pm
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Only communist and terrorist sympathizers claim that the December 2007 NIE on Iran proves anything other than the leftward politicization of our state department and national intelligence agencies:

Director of National Intelligence 2008 02 05:

Iran is developing both the long range ballistic missiles and the nuclear fuel for a potential weapon. What had halted, it turns out, was work to design the actual warhead and secret enrichment activity. The Iranians continued to enrich uranium in the open in Natanz in defiance of two Security Council resolutions.

2007 12 NIE Report Conclusion:

“We assess with high confidence that Iran has the scientific, technical and industrial capacity to eventually produce nuclear weapons if it decides to do so”

Britain confronted Iran 2008 02 25:

The board was presented with material “from multiple sources” suggesting “detailed work put into the designing of the warhead, studying how that warhead would perform, how it would be detonated and how it would be fitted to a Shahab-3 missile

So is Iran a threat?  Why don’t we ask their neighbors in Iraq:

2007 11 21 - More than 300,000 Iraqis including 600 Shi’ite tribal leaders have signed a petition accusing Iran of sowing “disorder” in southern Iraq

Or the US military currently fighting Iranian backed terrorists in Iraq:

General David Petraeus 2007 09 -

In the past six months we have also targeted Shia militia extremists, capturing a number of senior leaders and fighters, as well as the deputy commander of Lebanese Hezbollah Department 2800, the organization created to support the training, arming, funding, and, in some cases, direction of the militia extremists by the Iranian Republican Guard Corps’ Qods Force. These elements have assassinated and kidnapped Iraqi governmental leaders, killed and wounded our soldiers with advanced explosive devices provided by Iran, and indiscriminately rocketed civilians in the International Zone and elsewhere. It is increasingly apparent to both Coalition and Iraqi leaders that Iran, through the use of the Qods Force, seeks to turn the Iraqi Special Groups into a Hezbollah-like force to serve its interests and fight a proxy war against the Iraqi state and coalition forces in Iraq.

Or how about Barack Hussein himself!? 

November 2nd, 2007 - Senator Barack Obama said he would “engage in aggressive personal diplomacy” with Iran if elected president and would offer economic inducements and a possible promise not to seek “regime change” if Iran stopped meddling in Iraq and cooperated on terrorism and nuclear issues.

Why do idiots like “nunez” keep apologizing for this idiot and the Iranian regime?

Osama Obama on May 20, 2008 at 03:12 pm
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As usual you are remarkably dishonest.  Obama did not say Iran was not a threat.  He said that Iran was not a big a threat as the old Soviet Union. 

A truer statement has never been uttered.  The Soviet Union had thousands of nuclear missles aimed at us.  Iran does not have one.

Obama could have said that currently Russia is a bigger threat than Iran and that would also be true.

You are a liar.

Lestat on May 20, 2008 at 08:13 pm
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If Obama does think Iran is a threat, why is he trying to minimize that threat?

And so what if Iran isn’t as big a threat as the Soviet Union?  The Soviet Union doesn’t exist any more.  Iran does, and of the threats facing this country right now Iran is among the biggest.

You liberals would do well to acknowledge this instead of trying to deny reality.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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Rob on May 20, 2008 at 08:22 pm
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um...the only question i have is Rob did you really mean to type FUTILE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN.... maybe you were thinking of Iraq, but please tell me you are not that ignorant, or sheltered.

justin smith on June 26, 2008 at 12:03 pm
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